Greetings to you all! :-) I have a difficult question (difficult for me)
that you guys might know how to assist me with.

A friend of mine brought me her computer, which was destroyed by lighting on
a dark and stormy and spooky night and had asked me if the hard drive still
works, would there be any way to transfer the old data from the old hard
drive over to a new one when she bought it. Without thinking and opening my
mouth, I said yes.

I did hear somewhere where you can transfer the data. So I took the old
drive out of the computer that died and transferred it over to the new
computer which was bought the next day.

After playing with it to get the computer to actually recognize that the old
drive is now a slave to the new computer every time I click the newly appeard
"D" drive [which is the old computers hard drive] it asks me to FORMAT first.

Where did I go wrong? How come I can't simply double click "D" to open it
and transfer the files over to the new hard drive? Is it something very
simple I'm missing because that's generally the case. If someone can help
me, could you tell me how to do so; step by step.

Thanks you guys for your help. It's greatly appreciated!

Regards,

Leonard W. Peacock

It seems like you did things correctly.
If the new computer is XP then it seems to me like something is wrong with
the disk....(unless you had linux on the old disk... which I doubt).

there are many diagnostic programs that are on bootable CDroms or Floppy
disks that you can boot the pc with and check to see if the disk data can be
salvaged...
One of them I can recall is called "Hirens boot cd"...version 7.5 but I
have never tried it.
Whatever the situation.. once you get that data copied save it somewhere
else.. dont leave them on that disk.



you will have to look around... some hard disk companies have some
diagnostic tools on their sites..



Kenny



"Leonard W. Peacock" <LeonardWPeacock@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:2C4CDD31-C175-4A4C-8C12-A70CA50C06E3@microsoft.com...
> Greetings to you all! :-) I have a difficult question (difficult for me)
> that you guys might know how to assist me with.
>
> A friend of mine brought me her computer, which was destroyed by lighting
> on
> a dark and stormy and spooky night and had asked me if the hard drive
> still
> works, would there be any way to transfer the old data from the old hard
> drive over to a new one when she bought it. Without thinking and opening
> my
> mouth, I said yes.
>
> I did hear somewhere where you can transfer the data. So I took the old
> drive out of the computer that died and transferred it over to the new
> computer which was bought the next day.
>
> After playing with it to get the computer to actually recognize that the
> old
> drive is now a slave to the new computer every time I click the newly
> appeard
> "D" drive [which is the old computers hard drive] it asks me to FORMAT
> first.
>
> Where did I go wrong? How come I can't simply double click "D" to open it
> and transfer the files over to the new hard drive? Is it something very
> simple I'm missing because that's generally the case. If someone can help
> me, could you tell me how to do so; step by step.
>
> Thanks you guys for your help. It's greatly appreciated!
>
> Regards,
>
> Leonard W. Peacock

OMG How does one figure out what program to use?

They read like Sterio Instructions.

I think, it's the "SNAPSHOT" program? I hate not knowing how to do this.

Recommendations?

Thanks!

Leonard

"kenny" wrote:

> It seems like you did things correctly.
> If the new computer is XP then it seems to me like something is wrong with
> the disk....(unless you had linux on the old disk... which I doubt).
>
> there are many diagnostic programs that are on bootable CDroms or Floppy
> disks that you can boot the pc with and check to see if the disk data can be
> salvaged...
> One of them I can recall is called "Hirens boot cd"...version 7.5 but I
> have never tried it.
> Whatever the situation.. once you get that data copied save it somewhere
> else.. dont leave them on that disk.
>
>
>
> you will have to look around... some hard disk companies have some
> diagnostic tools on their sites..
>
>
>
> Kenny
>
>
>
> "Leonard W. Peacock" <LeonardWPeacock@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:2C4CDD31-C175-4A4C-8C12-A70CA50C06E3@microsoft.com...
> > Greetings to you all! :-) I have a difficult question (difficult for me)
> > that you guys might know how to assist me with.
> >
> > A friend of mine brought me her computer, which was destroyed by lighting
> > on
> > a dark and stormy and spooky night and had asked me if the hard drive
> > still
> > works, would there be any way to transfer the old data from the old hard
> > drive over to a new one when she bought it. Without thinking and opening
> > my
> > mouth, I said yes.
> >
> > I did hear somewhere where you can transfer the data. So I took the old
> > drive out of the computer that died and transferred it over to the new
> > computer which was bought the next day.
> >
> > After playing with it to get the computer to actually recognize that the
> > old
> > drive is now a slave to the new computer every time I click the newly
> > appeard
> > "D" drive [which is the old computers hard drive] it asks me to FORMAT
> > first.
> >
> > Where did I go wrong? How come I can't simply double click "D" to open it
> > and transfer the files over to the new hard drive? Is it something very
> > simple I'm missing because that's generally the case. If someone can help
> > me, could you tell me how to do so; step by step.
> >
> > Thanks you guys for your help. It's greatly appreciated!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Leonard W. Peacock
>
>
>

You can try this:

do you have the CD for XP? that is bootable,
meaning you start the pc with it and you have various options,
and has an option to "Repair Windows XP using the recovery console"

when you select that option you will be in a dos-like environment

if you type help a list with all the commands is show

chkdsk is one of them, so try to do a chkdsk on the problematic drive

chkdsk is check disk, and it scans for problems

Some info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;314058


if this fails.. please tell me the brand / model of the drive

and also try posting this same question on the hardware newsgroup

Kenny


"Leonard W. Peacock" <LeonardWPeacock@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:9932C55E-078A-4A37-890E-895D2D1392C1@microsoft.com...
> OMG How does one figure out what program to use?
>
> They read like Sterio Instructions.
>
> I think, it's the "SNAPSHOT" program? I hate not knowing how to do this.
>
> Recommendations?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Leonard
>
> "kenny" wrote:
>
>> It seems like you did things correctly.
>> If the new computer is XP then it seems to me like something is wrong
>> with
>> the disk....(unless you had linux on the old disk... which I doubt).
>>
>> there are many diagnostic programs that are on bootable CDroms or Floppy
>> disks that you can boot the pc with and check to see if the disk data can
>> be
>> salvaged...
>> One of them I can recall is called "Hirens boot cd"...version 7.5 but I
>> have never tried it.
>> Whatever the situation.. once you get that data copied save it somewhere
>> else.. dont leave them on that disk.
>>
>>
>>
>> you will have to look around... some hard disk companies have some
>> diagnostic tools on their sites..
>>
>>
>>
>> Kenny
>>
>>
>>
>> "Leonard W. Peacock" <LeonardWPeacock@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:2C4CDD31-C175-4A4C-8C12-A70CA50C06E3@microsoft.com...
>> > Greetings to you all! :-) I have a difficult question (difficult for
>> > me)
>> > that you guys might know how to assist me with.
>> >
>> > A friend of mine brought me her computer, which was destroyed by
>> > lighting
>> > on
>> > a dark and stormy and spooky night and had asked me if the hard drive
>> > still
>> > works, would there be any way to transfer the old data from the old
>> > hard
>> > drive over to a new one when she bought it. Without thinking and
>> > opening
>> > my
>> > mouth, I said yes.
>> >
>> > I did hear somewhere where you can transfer the data. So I took the
>> > old
>> > drive out of the computer that died and transferred it over to the new
>> > computer which was bought the next day.
>> >
>> > After playing with it to get the computer to actually recognize that
>> > the
>> > old
>> > drive is now a slave to the new computer every time I click the newly
>> > appeard
>> > "D" drive [which is the old computers hard drive] it asks me to FORMAT
>> > first.
>> >
>> > Where did I go wrong? How come I can't simply double click "D" to open
>> > it
>> > and transfer the files over to the new hard drive? Is it something
>> > very
>> > simple I'm missing because that's generally the case. If someone can
>> > help
>> > me, could you tell me how to do so; step by step.
>> >
>> > Thanks you guys for your help. It's greatly appreciated!
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Leonard W. Peacock
>>
>>
>>

> "Leonard W. Peacock" <LeonardWPeacock@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:2C4CDD31-C175-4A4C-8C12-A70CA50C06E3@microsoft.com...
>> Greetings to you all! :-) I have a difficult question (difficult for me)
>> that you guys might know how to assist me with.
>>
>> A friend of mine brought me her computer, which was destroyed by lighting
>> on a dark and stormy and spooky night and had asked me if the hard drive
>> still works, would there be any way to transfer the old data from the old
>> hard
>> drive over to a new one when she bought it. Without thinking and opening
>> my mouth, I said yes.
>>
>> I did hear somewhere where you can transfer the data. So I took the old
>> drive out of the computer that died and transferred it over to the new
>> computer which was bought the next day.
>>
>> After playing with it to get the computer to actually recognize that the
>> old drive is now a slave to the new computer every time I click the newly
>> appeard "D" drive [which is the old computers hard drive] it asks me to
>> FORMAT first.
>>
>> Where did I go wrong? How come I can't simply double click "D" to open
>> it
>> and transfer the files over to the new hard drive? Is it something very
>> simple I'm missing because that's generally the case. If someone can
>> help
>> me, could you tell me how to do so; step by step.
>>
>> Thanks you guys for your help. It's greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Leonard W. Peacock


Leonard:
Since the problem drive in question came from a machine that was destroyed
by lightening, it would certainly seem that there's a strong likelihood that
the drive was likewise zapped, wouldn't you say? Especially in view of the
problem you're having trying to access its contents. It would probably be a
good idea at this point to download the hard drive diagnostic utility from
the hard drive's manufacturer's website and test the drive to see if it is
indeed defective. Virtually every HD manufacturer has such a utility
available for download. Should the drive prove OK, we can explore other ways
to access the drive's data.

DO NOT AT THIS TIME, as one poster has suggested, use the Recovery Console
(available through the XP installation CD) to perform a Repair install.
Based on what you've reported, use of that process at this point would do
nothing to overcome your present problem and could possibly cause future
problems with the drive. You may very well need to perform a Repair install,
BUT NOT THE ONE INVOLVING THE RECOVERY CONSOLE, at a later date, but let's
first check out the drive.
Anna

>After playing with it to get the computer to actually recognize that the old
>drive is now a slave to the new computer every time I click the newly appeard
>"D" drive [which is the old computers hard drive] it asks me to FORMAT first.
>Where did I go wrong? How come I can't simply double click "D" to open it
>and transfer the files over to the new hard drive?...
>Leonard W. Peacock

As one person mentioned, its likely the drive got shocked as
well but I'll proceed as if that is not the case while you
attempt to verify.
Do you know if the drive was partitioned/formatted using the
same type operating system you're running ? XP may refuse to
recognize drives formatted by a predecessor. If the drive is
from a Win9x system and 32G or larger without capacity
limiting jumper(s), it is probable that it was setup using a
third party drive translation program such as Ontrack' Disk
Manager which installs an overlay that tricks the bios into
seeing it as a compatile size drive (say 10Gig).
Drive compression is another possibilty.
If you are NOT running a Win9x OS please stop here.

IF the drive is NOT compressed and IF the drive does NOT
have third party overlay or translation software installed,
please continue.
If you are running a Win9x flavor, create a dos boot disk or
ME startup diskette with fdisk.exe on it, boot to a command
prompt, run fdisk, switch to the second drive (menu item 5?)
then drive info (menu item 4?).

If or when the OS does recognize the hard drive without
insisting on formatting it, you can use the following
procedure to clone the drive information.
From inside windows in normal mode;
Click Start> Run, type xcopy32 /? /p <smack enter>
This gives you the commandline syntax and switch info for
Xcopy32.exe.

Next:
Click Start> Run, "IN THE RUNBOX" (NOT from a DOS prompt)
type (case is NOT significant)

XCOPY32.EXE /S /E /C /H /K C:*.* D:

<smack enter and go get A-Beer B-Soda C-Coffee D-1 of each>
This will recreate the folder structure, and their contents
(if any) on the target drive while preserving the attributes
of folders/files. Dont worry about the swap file error.
Shut Down !

Remove the primary master (you just copied from); jumper and
cable the cloned drive as primary master.
Restart windows in SAFE MODE, but first, enter setup (cmos),
check drive parameters (if exist), save changes (if any) and
exit, start windows in SAFE MODE.

"After" windows has finished loading in safe mode, right
click My Computer>, click Properties> Performance> Virtual
Memory which will re-establish the swap file, cfg to taste,
reboot in normal mode, have her take you out for dinner and
?? :-)) Hope this helps

-- I make money the old fashioned way, I print it !

TheRealFastlane wrote:
>>After playing with it to get the computer to actually recognize that the old
>>drive is now a slave to the new computer every time I click the newly appeard
>>"D" drive [which is the old computers hard drive] it asks me to FORMAT first.
>>Where did I go wrong? How come I can't simply double click "D" to open it
>>and transfer the files over to the new hard drive?...
>>Leonard W. Peacock
>
>
> As one person mentioned, its likely the drive got shocked as
> well but I'll proceed as if that is not the case while you
> attempt to verify.
> Do you know if the drive was partitioned/formatted using the
> same type operating system you're running ? XP may refuse to
> recognize drives formatted by a predecessor. If the drive is
> from a Win9x system and 32G or larger without capacity
> limiting jumper(s), it is probable that it was setup using a
> third party drive translation program such as Ontrack' Disk
> Manager which installs an overlay that tricks the bios into
> seeing it as a compatile size drive (say 10Gig).
> Drive compression is another possibilty.
> If you are NOT running a Win9x OS please stop here.
>
> IF the drive is NOT compressed and IF the drive does NOT
> have third party overlay or translation software installed,
> please continue.
> If you are running a Win9x flavor, create a dos boot disk or
> ME startup diskette with fdisk.exe on it, boot to a command
> prompt, run fdisk, switch to the second drive (menu item 5?)
> then drive info (menu item 4?).
>
> If or when the OS does recognize the hard drive without
> insisting on formatting it, you can use the following
> procedure to clone the drive information.
> From inside windows in normal mode;
> Click Start> Run, type xcopy32 /? /p <smack enter>
> This gives you the commandline syntax and switch info for
> Xcopy32.exe.
>
> Next:
> Click Start> Run, "IN THE RUNBOX" (NOT from a DOS prompt)
> type (case is NOT significant)
>
> XCOPY32.EXE /S /E /C /H /K C:*.* D:
>
> <smack enter and go get A-Beer B-Soda C-Coffee D-1 of each>
> This will recreate the folder structure, and their contents
> (if any) on the target drive while preserving the attributes
> of folders/files. Dont worry about the swap file error.
> Shut Down !
>
> Remove the primary master (you just copied from); jumper and
> cable the cloned drive as primary master.
> Restart windows in SAFE MODE, but first, enter setup (cmos),
> check drive parameters (if exist), save changes (if any) and
> exit, start windows in SAFE MODE.
>
> "After" windows has finished loading in safe mode, right
> click My Computer>, click Properties> Performance> Virtual
> Memory which will re-establish the swap file, cfg to taste,
> reboot in normal mode, have her take you out for dinner and
> ?? :-)) Hope this helps
>
> -- I make money the old fashioned way, I print it !
I MAY be miles and miles offtrack (apologies if so)

But some hard disk utilities offer a bespoke transfer option for
example, from OLD drive to NEW drive.

I wonder if the OP is betwixt and between transferring the OS and
associated hidden (usually OEM?) stuff via a disk utility?

Are you stupid or somthing?
I told him to use CHKDSK from the recovery console, nothing else!



"Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
news:e3yzg%23vBGHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
>> "Leonard W. Peacock" <LeonardWPeacock@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:2C4CDD31-C175-4A4C-8C12-A70CA50C06E3@microsoft.com...
>>> Greetings to you all! :-) I have a difficult question (difficult for
>>> me)
>>> that you guys might know how to assist me with.
>>>
>>> A friend of mine brought me her computer, which was destroyed by
>>> lighting on a dark and stormy and spooky night and had asked me if the
>>> hard drive still works, would there be any way to transfer the old data
>>> from the old hard
>>> drive over to a new one when she bought it. Without thinking and
>>> opening my mouth, I said yes.
>>>
>>> I did hear somewhere where you can transfer the data. So I took the old
>>> drive out of the computer that died and transferred it over to the new
>>> computer which was bought the next day.
>>>
>>> After playing with it to get the computer to actually recognize that the
>>> old drive is now a slave to the new computer every time I click the
>>> newly appeard "D" drive [which is the old computers hard drive] it asks
>>> me to FORMAT first.
>>>
>>> Where did I go wrong? How come I can't simply double click "D" to open
>>> it
>>> and transfer the files over to the new hard drive? Is it something very
>>> simple I'm missing because that's generally the case. If someone can
>>> help
>>> me, could you tell me how to do so; step by step.
>>>
>>> Thanks you guys for your help. It's greatly appreciated!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Leonard W. Peacock
>
>
> Leonard:
> Since the problem drive in question came from a machine that was destroyed
> by lightening, it would certainly seem that there's a strong likelihood
> that the drive was likewise zapped, wouldn't you say? Especially in view
> of the problem you're having trying to access its contents. It would
> probably be a good idea at this point to download the hard drive
> diagnostic utility from the hard drive's manufacturer's website and test
> the drive to see if it is indeed defective. Virtually every HD
> manufacturer has such a utility available for download. Should the drive
> prove OK, we can explore other ways to access the drive's data.
>
> DO NOT AT THIS TIME, as one poster has suggested, use the Recovery Console
> (available through the XP installation CD) to perform a Repair install.
> Based on what you've reported, use of that process at this point would do
> nothing to overcome your present problem and could possibly cause future
> problems with the drive. You may very well need to perform a Repair
> install, BUT NOT THE ONE INVOLVING THE RECOVERY CONSOLE, at a later date,
> but let's first check out the drive.
> Anna
>
>

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