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Hi, i am running a registered copy of windows 2003 ent ed. but the problem
is also related to windows XP (occurs also on windows XP), After playing a game for some time a BSOD occurs with the following message: kernel mode exception not handles ati3duag.dll code 0x8e param1: 0xc000005 I have read a lot about it but havent been able to solve this issue yet, this is why i am writing to you. Checked everything, from ram to cpu, from d3d settings to opengl settings. dxdiag, etc etc etc etc etc etc The system i am running is a SMP system with 2x 3.06 GHz xeons, LSI logic scsi controller and 2048 MB ram. Virtual page file is turned off, enabling it with a range of 4gb doesnt solve the problem. Temperatures are all fine. IBM xseries 225 with ATI radeon 9800 Pro please help!!! i will almost throw the computer out of the freakin window! |
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Disabling page file is not reccommended, can lead to problems.
Since you have that amount of ram, page file will not be used excessively 0x000000c5 error often relates to a driver problem whilst 0x...8E often relates to bios "JP" <webmaster@redstorm.nl> wrote in message news:upzm%23%23VEGHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > Hi, i am running a registered copy of windows 2003 ent ed. but the problem > is also > related to windows XP (occurs also on windows XP), > > After playing a game for some time a BSOD occurs with the following message: > > kernel mode exception not handles ati3duag.dll code 0x8e param1: 0xc000005 > > I have read a lot about it but havent been able to solve this issue yet, > this is why i am writing to you. > > Checked everything, from ram to cpu, from d3d settings to opengl settings. > dxdiag, etc etc etc etc etc etc > > The system i am running is a SMP system with 2x 3.06 GHz xeons, LSI logic > scsi controller and 2048 MB ram. > Virtual page file is turned off, enabling it with a range of 4gb doesnt > solve the problem. > Temperatures are all fine. > > IBM xseries 225 with ATI radeon 9800 Pro > > please help!!! i will almost throw the computer out of the freakin window! > > > |
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Oke thanks, so far i figured this out myself. Any other suggestions????
I am running latest version of bios etc... 1.48A from ibm. Should i try and contact IBM? is there a way to not completely crash out of windows? like capture it and enter a debugger? I didnt have this problem on windows 2000, so its partly related to xp/2003. For now, i will try the original drivers which came with the card (2000 drivers) "JP" <webmaster@redstorm.nl> wrote in message news:upzm%23%23VEGHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > Hi, i am running a registered copy of windows 2003 ent ed. but the problem > is also > related to windows XP (occurs also on windows XP), > > After playing a game for some time a BSOD occurs with the following > message: > > kernel mode exception not handles ati3duag.dll code 0x8e param1: 0xc000005 > > I have read a lot about it but havent been able to solve this issue yet, > this is why i am writing to you. > > Checked everything, from ram to cpu, from d3d settings to opengl settings. > dxdiag, etc etc etc etc etc etc > > The system i am running is a SMP system with 2x 3.06 GHz xeons, LSI logic > scsi controller and 2048 MB ram. > Virtual page file is turned off, enabling it with a range of 4gb doesnt > solve the problem. > Temperatures are all fine. > > IBM xseries 225 with ATI radeon 9800 Pro > > please help!!! i will almost throw the computer out of the freakin window! > > > |
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What Warning and Error Reports are in Event Viewer occurring about the time when the problem arises.. Please post copies. You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools, Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important. HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event Viewer. Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. This will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report complete with links into the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event Viewer. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "JP" <webmaster@redstorm.nl> wrote in message news:e2H5s$WEGHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > Oke thanks, so far i figured this out myself. Any other suggestions???? > I am running latest version of bios etc... 1.48A from ibm. > > Should i try and contact IBM? is there a way to not completely crash out > of > windows? > like capture it and enter a debugger? > > I didnt have this problem on windows 2000, so its partly related to > xp/2003. > > For now, i will try the original drivers which came with the card (2000 > drivers) > > "JP" <webmaster@redstorm.nl> wrote in message > news:upzm%23%23VEGHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> Hi, i am running a registered copy of windows 2003 ent ed. but the >> problem is also >> related to windows XP (occurs also on windows XP), >> >> After playing a game for some time a BSOD occurs with the following >> message: >> >> kernel mode exception not handles ati3duag.dll code 0x8e param1: >> 0xc000005 >> >> I have read a lot about it but havent been able to solve this issue yet, >> this is why i am writing to you. >> >> Checked everything, from ram to cpu, from d3d settings to opengl >> settings. dxdiag, etc etc etc etc etc etc >> >> The system i am running is a SMP system with 2x 3.06 GHz xeons, LSI logic >> scsi controller and 2048 MB ram. >> Virtual page file is turned off, enabling it with a range of 4gb doesnt >> solve the problem. >> Temperatures are all fine. >> >> IBM xseries 225 with ATI radeon 9800 Pro >> >> please help!!! i will almost throw the computer out of the freakin >> window! >> >> >> > > |
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"JP" <webmaster@redstorm.nl> wrote:
>Hi, i am running a registered copy of windows 2003 ent ed. but the problem >is also >related to windows XP (occurs also on windows XP), > >After playing a game for some time a BSOD occurs with the following message: > >kernel mode exception not handles ati3duag.dll code 0x8e param1: 0xc000005 > >I have read a lot about it but havent been able to solve this issue yet, >this is why i am writing to you. > >Checked everything, from ram to cpu, from d3d settings to opengl settings. >dxdiag, etc etc etc etc etc etc The information on MSDN regarding this error says: "A kernel mode program generated an exception which the error handler didn’t catch. These are nearly always hardware compatibility issues (which sometimes means a driver issue or a need for a BIOS upgrade)." Do you have the latest driver updates from ATI for this card? Have your tried contacting ATI's tech support in this regard? > >The system i am running is a SMP system with 2x 3.06 GHz xeons, LSI logic >scsi controller and 2048 MB ram. >Virtual page file is turned off, enabling it with a range of 4gb doesnt >solve the problem. >Temperatures are all fine. > >IBM xseries 225 with ATI radeon 9800 Pro Running with the page file turned off will make your overall memory management less efficient and could result in reduced overall performance. This is because of the unused portions of memory allocation requests. Windows components, device drivers and application programs all tend to ask for memory allocations which are larger than they usually need under normal circumstances. Windows memory management handles this situation by only allocating RAM to those portions of the requests that are actually used and by mapping the unused portions to locations in the page file. Note that this mapping of unused portions to the page file does not involve any disk activity. All that is needed are entries in the memory mapping tables maintained by the CPU. With the page file disabled, all requested memory must be given addresses in physical RAM, even the unused portions. This means that there will be less RAM available for other purposes such as disk cache and for retaining memory pages for closed applications in anticipation that these will likely be launched again. A smaller disk cache can result in reduced performance, and having to reload an application completely from the hard drive will take longer than if it, or at least parts of it, were still present in RAM. Hope this explains the situation. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." |
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I will install microsoft debugging tools and the symbols for win2003 and ati
drivers. Expect a complete error/debug log within an hour. There are no error events around 11.56 (previous unexpected shutdown is at 11.56). All is nice and shiny blue. Event Type: Error Event Source: EventLog Event Category: None Event ID: 6008 Date: 1/4/2006 Time: 11:59:47 PM User: N/A Computer: NUCLEUS Description: The previous system shutdown at 11:56:25 PM on 1/4/2006 was unexpected. For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. Data: 0000: d6 07 01 00 03 00 04 00 Ö....... 0008: 17 00 38 00 19 00 19 01 ..8..... 0010: d6 07 01 00 03 00 04 00 Ö....... 0018: 16 00 38 00 19 00 19 01 ..8..... "Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message news:ObPQJ7XEGHA.3728@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > JP > > What Warning and Error Reports are in Event Viewer occurring about > the time when the problem arises.. Please post copies. > > You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools, > Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information > regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important. > > HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP > http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp > > A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double > click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a > button resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event > Viewer. Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of > the message. This will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report > complete with links into the message. Make sure this is the first paste > after exiting from Event Viewer. > > -- > > Hope this helps. > > Gerry > ~~~~ > FCA > Stourport, England > > Enquire, plan and execute > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > "JP" <webmaster@redstorm.nl> wrote in message > news:e2H5s$WEGHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >> Oke thanks, so far i figured this out myself. Any other suggestions???? >> I am running latest version of bios etc... 1.48A from ibm. >> >> Should i try and contact IBM? is there a way to not completely crash out >> of >> windows? >> like capture it and enter a debugger? >> >> I didnt have this problem on windows 2000, so its partly related to >> xp/2003. >> >> For now, i will try the original drivers which came with the card (2000 >> drivers) >> >> "JP" <webmaster@redstorm.nl> wrote in message >> news:upzm%23%23VEGHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >>> Hi, i am running a registered copy of windows 2003 ent ed. but the >>> problem is also >>> related to windows XP (occurs also on windows XP), >>> >>> After playing a game for some time a BSOD occurs with the following >>> message: >>> >>> kernel mode exception not handles ati3duag.dll code 0x8e param1: >>> 0xc000005 >>> >>> I have read a lot about it but havent been able to solve this issue yet, >>> this is why i am writing to you. >>> >>> Checked everything, from ram to cpu, from d3d settings to opengl >>> settings. dxdiag, etc etc etc etc etc etc >>> >>> The system i am running is a SMP system with 2x 3.06 GHz xeons, LSI >>> logic scsi controller and 2048 MB ram. >>> Virtual page file is turned off, enabling it with a range of 4gb doesnt >>> solve the problem. >>> Temperatures are all fine. >>> >>> IBM xseries 225 with ATI radeon 9800 Pro >>> >>> please help!!! i will almost throw the computer out of the freakin >>> window! >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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ati3duag.dll I need to replace my glasses. Well spotted. -- Regards. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Ron Martell" <ron.martell@gmail.com> wrote in message news:46kor1dbvqjafsb5sbp01vjji0igbu6v3e@4ax.com... > "JP" <webmaster@redstorm.nl> wrote: > >>Hi, i am running a registered copy of windows 2003 ent ed. but the problem >>is also >>related to windows XP (occurs also on windows XP), >> >>After playing a game for some time a BSOD occurs with the following >>message: >> >>kernel mode exception not handles ati3duag.dll code 0x8e param1: 0xc000005 >> >>I have read a lot about it but havent been able to solve this issue yet, >>this is why i am writing to you. >> >>Checked everything, from ram to cpu, from d3d settings to opengl settings. >>dxdiag, etc etc etc etc etc etc > > > The information on MSDN regarding this error says: > > "A kernel mode program generated an exception which the error handler > didn't catch. These are nearly always hardware compatibility issues > (which sometimes means a driver issue or a need for a BIOS upgrade)." > > Do you have the latest driver updates from ATI for this card? Have > your tried contacting ATI's tech support in this regard? > > >> >>The system i am running is a SMP system with 2x 3.06 GHz xeons, LSI logic >>scsi controller and 2048 MB ram. >>Virtual page file is turned off, enabling it with a range of 4gb doesnt >>solve the problem. >>Temperatures are all fine. >> >>IBM xseries 225 with ATI radeon 9800 Pro > > Running with the page file turned off will make your overall memory > management less efficient and could result in reduced overall > performance. > > This is because of the unused portions of memory allocation requests. > Windows components, device drivers and application programs all tend > to ask for memory allocations which are larger than they usually need > under normal circumstances. Windows memory management handles this > situation by only allocating RAM to those portions of the requests > that are actually used and by mapping the unused portions to locations > in the page file. Note that this mapping of unused portions to the > page file does not involve any disk activity. All that is needed are > entries in the memory mapping tables maintained by the CPU. > > With the page file disabled, all requested memory must be given > addresses in physical RAM, even the unused portions. This means that > there will be less RAM available for other purposes such as disk cache > and for retaining memory pages for closed applications in anticipation > that these will likely be launched again. > > A smaller disk cache can result in reduced performance, and having to > reload an application completely from the hard drive will take longer > than if it, or at least parts of it, were still present in RAM. > > Hope this explains the situation. > > Good luck > > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada > -- > Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006) > On-Line Help Computer Service > http://onlinehelp.bc.ca > > "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference > has never been in bed with a mosquito." |
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Ron Martell spotted a clue I missed. He said "Do you have the latest driver updates from ATI for this card? " http://snipurl.com/gtj9 -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "JP" <webmaster@redstorm.nl> wrote in message news:%23$2kzSYEGHA.3200@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >I will install microsoft debugging tools and the symbols for win2003 and >ati drivers. > > Expect a complete error/debug log within an hour. > > There are no error events around 11.56 (previous unexpected shutdown is at > 11.56). All is nice and shiny blue. > > Event Type: Error > Event Source: EventLog > Event Category: None > Event ID: 6008 > Date: 1/4/2006 > Time: 11:59:47 PM > User: N/A > Computer: NUCLEUS > Description: > The previous system shutdown at 11:56:25 PM on 1/4/2006 was unexpected. > > For more information, see Help and Support Center at > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. > Data: > 0000: d6 07 01 00 03 00 04 00 Ö....... > 0008: 17 00 38 00 19 00 19 01 ..8..... > 0010: d6 07 01 00 03 00 04 00 Ö....... > 0018: 16 00 38 00 19 00 19 01 ..8..... > > > > > > "Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message > news:ObPQJ7XEGHA.3728@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> JP >> >> What Warning and Error Reports are in Event Viewer occurring about >> the time when the problem arises.. Please post copies. >> >> You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools, >> Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information >> regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important. >> >> HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp >> >> A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double >> click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a >> button resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event >> Viewer. Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of >> the message. This will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report >> complete with links into the message. Make sure this is the first paste >> after exiting from Event Viewer. >> >> -- >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Gerry >> ~~~~ >> FCA >> Stourport, England >> >> Enquire, plan and execute >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> "JP" <webmaster@redstorm.nl> wrote in message >> news:e2H5s$WEGHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >>> Oke thanks, so far i figured this out myself. Any other suggestions???? >>> I am running latest version of bios etc... 1.48A from ibm. >>> >>> Should i try and contact IBM? is there a way to not completely crash out >>> of >>> windows? >>> like capture it and enter a debugger? >>> >>> I didnt have this problem on windows 2000, so its partly related to >>> xp/2003. >>> >>> For now, i will try the original drivers which came with the card (2000 >>> drivers) >>> >>> "JP" <webmaster@redstorm.nl> wrote in message >>> news:upzm%23%23VEGHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >>>> Hi, i am running a registered copy of windows 2003 ent ed. but the >>>> problem is also >>>> related to windows XP (occurs also on windows XP), >>>> >>>> After playing a game for some time a BSOD occurs with the following >>>> message: >>>> >>>> kernel mode exception not handles ati3duag.dll code 0x8e param1: >>>> 0xc000005 >>>> >>>> I have read a lot about it but havent been able to solve this issue >>>> yet, this is why i am writing to you. >>>> >>>> Checked everything, from ram to cpu, from d3d settings to opengl >>>> settings. dxdiag, etc etc etc etc etc etc >>>> >>>> The system i am running is a SMP system with 2x 3.06 GHz xeons, LSI >>>> logic scsi controller and 2048 MB ram. >>>> Virtual page file is turned off, enabling it with a range of 4gb doesnt >>>> solve the problem. >>>> Temperatures are all fine. >>>> >>>> IBM xseries 225 with ATI radeon 9800 Pro >>>> >>>> please help!!! i will almost throw the computer out of the freakin >>>> window! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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well the latest driver is buggy. I found the correct driver to use:
CATALYST 4.4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and only catalyst 4.4!!! i will post this in multiple newsgroups where ppl are having the same trouble as i was experiencing. Thanks for the fast replay etc etc etc. "Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message news:%23gdgCxYEGHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > JP > > Ron Martell spotted a clue I missed. He said > > "Do you have the latest driver updates from ATI for this card? " > > http://snipurl.com/gtj9 > > -- > > Hope this helps. > > Gerry > ~~~~ > FCA > Stourport, England > > Enquire, plan and execute > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > "JP" <webmaster@redstorm.nl> wrote in message > news:%23$2kzSYEGHA.3200@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >>I will install microsoft debugging tools and the symbols for win2003 and >>ati drivers. >> >> Expect a complete error/debug log within an hour. >> >> There are no error events around 11.56 (previous unexpected shutdown is >> at 11.56). All is nice and shiny blue. >> >> Event Type: Error >> Event Source: EventLog >> Event Category: None >> Event ID: 6008 >> Date: 1/4/2006 >> Time: 11:59:47 PM >> User: N/A >> Computer: NUCLEUS >> Description: >> The previous system shutdown at 11:56:25 PM on 1/4/2006 was unexpected. >> >> For more information, see Help and Support Center at >> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. >> Data: >> 0000: d6 07 01 00 03 00 04 00 Ö....... >> 0008: 17 00 38 00 19 00 19 01 ..8..... >> 0010: d6 07 01 00 03 00 04 00 Ö....... >> 0018: 16 00 38 00 19 00 19 01 ..8..... >> >> >> >> >> >> "Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message >> news:ObPQJ7XEGHA.3728@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >>> JP >>> >>> What Warning and Error Reports are in Event Viewer occurring about >>> the time when the problem arises.. Please post copies. >>> >>> You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools, >>> Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information >>> regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important. >>> >>> HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP >>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp >>> >>> A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double >>> click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a >>> button resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event >>> Viewer. Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of >>> the message. This will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report >>> complete with links into the message. Make sure this is the first paste >>> after exiting from Event Viewer. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Gerry >>> ~~~~ >>> FCA >>> Stourport, England >>> >>> Enquire, plan and execute >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> "JP" <webmaster@redstorm.nl> wrote in message >>> news:e2H5s$WEGHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >>>> Oke thanks, so far i figured this out myself. Any other suggestions???? >>>> I am running latest version of bios etc... 1.48A from ibm. >>>> >>>> Should i try and contact IBM? is there a way to not completely crash >>>> out of >>>> windows? >>>> like capture it and enter a debugger? >>>> >>>> I didnt have this problem on windows 2000, so its partly related to >>>> xp/2003. >>>> >>>> For now, i will try the original drivers which came with the card (2000 >>>> drivers) >>>> >>>> "JP" <webmaster@redstorm.nl> wrote in message >>>> news:upzm%23%23VEGHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >>>>> Hi, i am running a registered copy of windows 2003 ent ed. but the >>>>> problem is also >>>>> related to windows XP (occurs also on windows XP), >>>>> >>>>> After playing a game for some time a BSOD occurs with the following >>>>> message: >>>>> >>>>> kernel mode exception not handles ati3duag.dll code 0x8e param1: >>>>> 0xc000005 >>>>> >>>>> I have read a lot about it but havent been able to solve this issue >>>>> yet, this is why i am writing to you. >>>>> >>>>> Checked everything, from ram to cpu, from d3d settings to opengl >>>>> settings. dxdiag, etc etc etc etc etc etc >>>>> >>>>> The system i am running is a SMP system with 2x 3.06 GHz xeons, LSI >>>>> logic scsi controller and 2048 MB ram. >>>>> Virtual page file is turned off, enabling it with a range of 4gb >>>>> doesnt solve the problem. >>>>> Temperatures are all fine. >>>>> >>>>> IBM xseries 225 with ATI radeon 9800 Pro >>>>> >>>>> please help!!! i will almost throw the computer out of the freakin >>>>> window! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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