Resistance is futile!

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Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2005 Jonathan Kay.
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"kenny" <nope@at.all> wrote in message news:On8PmU3%23FHA.740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> oh.... just like the borg assimilate biological entities..
> I see now...
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies@jonathankay.com> wrote in message
> news:eve8Kn2%23FHA.2452@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Kenny,
>>
>> The same reason why they bought two VoIP companies when there's already a dedicated group
>> within Microsoft that's been doing VoIP for years [and was included in Messenger for ages
>> as well].
>>
>> Sometimes you buy companies for people, sometimes for technology and sometimes just to
>> eliminate competition
>> ____________________________________________
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2005 Jonathan Kay.
>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>>
>> "kenny" <nope@at.all> wrote in message news:%236pqmbs%23FHA.1336@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> Then why buy foldershare? It is illogical.
>>> I read that they would impliment the techology in the next messenger, and they seem like
>>> they are doing it.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies@jonathankay.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23ZPMccr%23FHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Kenny,
>>>>
>>>> Not really, it's still the same thing with some synchronization.
>>>>
>>>> I believe they had this support done before they even bought FolderShare as it's not
>>>> exactly difficult. For instance, you can make your own rather quickly using the
>>>> FileSystemWatcher class in the .NET framework.
>>>> ____________________________________________
>>>> Jonathan Kay
>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>>>> Associate Expert
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2005 Jonathan Kay.
>>>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>>>>
>>>> "kenny" <nope@at.all> wrote in message news:%23q8thbl%23FHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> To be fair, file transfer has never been of Messenger's strong points
>>>>>
>>>>> yes but now messenger live will have P2P folder transfer, a technology they bought from
>>>>> foldershare and now is pesenting it as their own "magical" innovation and idea....
>>>>>
>>>>> Most people will never know, and MS will never tell...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies@jonathankay.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eOOlqrk%23FHA.208@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hmm.. if you can't send to your own PC it sounds like it's being blocked at the PC,
>>>>>> thus meaning there is some piece of software that's blocking the connection, even to
>>>>>> your own PC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To be fair, file transfer has never been of Messenger's strong points (although MSN
>>>>>> Messenger 5 had things done pretty well) but it sure sounds from your evidence that
>>>>>> things are being blocked on the PC.
>>>>>> ____________________________________________
>>>>>> Jonathan Kay
>>>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>>>>>> Associate Expert
>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2005 Jonathan Kay.
>>>>>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "thedave" <anthraxscare@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:987lf.1018$PX2.143537@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>>>>>>> Hi I've left messages in here before but the questions fall dead.
>>>>>>> My file transfer rate Goes fantastic for about 20 seconds then they practically stop
>>>>>>> dead. Like 0.5k a sec tops.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's the dialogue already had about this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> QUESTION: "If you click the Tools menu, then Options, then click the Connection
>>>>>>> category, does it indicate that you're using a UPnP NAT?"
>>>>>>> ANSWER:
>>>>>>> It says:
>>>>>>> You are directly connect to the .NET Messenger Service.
>>>>>>> You are connected to the Internet through wired network connection. and...
>>>>>>> You are connected to the Internet through a UPnP port restricted NAT.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I basically know what that means, but don't know if it's bad or not..
>>>>>>> I've added many UPnP port forwards to my router settings.. directed at my
>>>>>>> machine's LAN IP and it's still virtually halting aftter 3 seconds
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> QUESTION:
>>>>>>> are you sending to the same person in particular? I ask because if they're in some
>>>>>>> environment where outgoing connections are restricted, they would see this problem
>>>>>>> which would be unrelated to you.
>>>>>>> ANSWER:
>>>>>>> -- The answer would be "no" - The transfer speed ALWAYS drops from regular
>>>>>>> speed to about 0.5k/s after a few seconds no matter who I'm sending it to -
>>>>>>> even if I send it to another MSN account on the same computer... (I loaded a
>>>>>>> NG stuffplug's polygamy patch just to try it)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've tried Forums, I've tried no router, I've tried no firewall, I've tried
>>>>>>> uninstalling everything.. I've tried reinstalling. But the fuggin program will NOT
>>>>>>> send files properly. What the HELL? (As you can see it's bee going on for some time
>>>>>>> now and it is really starting to piss me off.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Spyware software, Anti Virus software or indexing (Desktop Search) could slow
the transfer rate. In this case it's not blocking but your system is not
allowing the file to save as quickly as one would like. Try an FTP
connection and see if you get simmilar results. I'm not sure if MSN
MEssenger uses TFTP but if it does it could also be a local port sharing
issue.


"thedave" wrote:

> > but it sure sounds from your evidence that things are being blocked on the
> > PC.
> Which only begs the question.. what "blocks" a transfer? especially
> since it was working fine a couple weeks ago.. It's still "leaks", it's
> not completely blocked.. what on earth does that?
>
> Confused as all hell....
>
>
>
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2005 Jonathan Kay.
> > You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> >
> > "thedave" <anthraxscare@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:987lf.1018$PX2.143537@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> >> Hi I've left messages in here before but the questions fall dead.
> >> My file transfer rate Goes fantastic for about 20 seconds then they
> >> practically stop dead. Like 0.5k a sec tops.
> >>
> >> Here's the dialogue already had about this:
> >>
> >> QUESTION: "If you click the Tools menu, then Options, then click the
> >> Connection category, does it indicate that you're using a UPnP NAT?"
> >> ANSWER:
> >> It says:
> >> You are directly connect to the .NET Messenger Service.
> >> You are connected to the Internet through wired network connection.
> >> and...
> >> You are connected to the Internet through a UPnP port restricted NAT.
> >>
> >> I basically know what that means, but don't know if it's bad or not..
> >> I've added many UPnP port forwards to my router settings.. directed at my
> >> machine's LAN IP and it's still virtually halting aftter 3 seconds
> >>
> >>
> >> QUESTION:
> >> are you sending to the same person in particular? I ask because if
> >> they're in some environment where outgoing connections are restricted,
> >> they would see this problem which would be unrelated to you.
> >> ANSWER:
> >> -- The answer would be "no" - The transfer speed ALWAYS drops from
> >> regular
> >> speed to about 0.5k/s after a few seconds no matter who I'm sending it
> >> to -
> >> even if I send it to another MSN account on the same computer... (I
> >> loaded a
> >> NG stuffplug's polygamy patch just to try it)
> >>
> >> I've tried Forums, I've tried no router, I've tried no firewall, I've
> >> tried uninstalling everything.. I've tried reinstalling. But the fuggin
> >> program will NOT send files properly. What the HELL? (As you can see
> >> it's bee going on for some time now and it is really starting to piss me
> >> off.)
> >>
> >> And go.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>