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Old 01-05-2006, 06:51 AM
Lsnewton
 
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Default Clip shortening

For some reason, several AVI's that I've imported into wmm have had parts
missing form the ends of them. The stand alone movie files are fine, so it's
obviously Movie maker that's doing this, but I can't figure out why. They
have no transition on either side of them, either.
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Old 01-05-2006, 06:51 AM
Lsnewton
 
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Default RE: Clip shortening

Bump. I forgot to tick the 'notify me of replies' thing, so please respond to
this message and not the main one.
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Old 01-05-2006, 06:51 AM
Graham Hughes
 
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Default Re: Clip shortening

Are these dv-avi's?
What length are they?
Have you another editing app you can try them with?
Is it just one end or both ends that have trouble?

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com


"Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Bump. I forgot to tick the 'notify me of replies' thing, so please respond
> to
> this message and not the main one.



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Old 01-05-2006, 06:51 AM
Lsnewton
 
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Default Re: Clip shortening

I have no idea if they're dv-avi's. They have the .avi file extension and
that's pretty much all I know.
They're only a few seconds long (but the file size is relatively big for
small clips due to the fact that they were made as high-quality 3D renders).
I don't have any other program to edit them together with, unless you can
suggest a free one that might work.
It's the end that's being trimmed. The beginning is fine.

"Graham Hughes" wrote:

> Are these dv-avi's?
> What length are they?
> Have you another editing app you can try them with?
> Is it just one end or both ends that have trouble?
>
> --
> Graham Hughes
> MVP Digital Media
> www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
> www.dvds2treasure.com
> www.simplydv.com
>
>
> "Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:749E8DE1-FC58-43DC-BE1D-8DFF3F5517E1@microsoft.com...
> > Bump. I forgot to tick the 'notify me of replies' thing, so please respond
> > to
> > this message and not the main one.

>
>
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 06:51 AM
PapaJohn \(MVP\)
 
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Default Re: Clip shortening

get the GSpot utility and check the codec used to make the AVI file....
there's a link to it on the Setup > Other Software page of my site.

If it's some flavor of Divx, Xvid, then such issues are normal... and
warrant file conversion before using in Movie Maker.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx



"Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:365900C1-D1B5-4F3C-9722-469D73CCA828@microsoft.com...
>I have no idea if they're dv-avi's. They have the .avi file extension and
> that's pretty much all I know.
> They're only a few seconds long (but the file size is relatively big for
> small clips due to the fact that they were made as high-quality 3D
> renders).
> I don't have any other program to edit them together with, unless you can
> suggest a free one that might work.
> It's the end that's being trimmed. The beginning is fine.
>
> "Graham Hughes" wrote:
>
>> Are these dv-avi's?
>> What length are they?
>> Have you another editing app you can try them with?
>> Is it just one end or both ends that have trouble?
>>
>> --
>> Graham Hughes
>> MVP Digital Media
>> www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
>> www.dvds2treasure.com
>> www.simplydv.com
>>
>>
>> "Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:749E8DE1-FC58-43DC-BE1D-8DFF3F5517E1@microsoft.com...
>> > Bump. I forgot to tick the 'notify me of replies' thing, so please
>> > respond
>> > to
>> > this message and not the main one.

>>
>>
>>



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Old 01-05-2006, 06:51 AM
Lsnewton
 
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Default Re: Clip shortening

So you think it might be a codec problem? All the clips being made are being
built frame-by-frame by myself. I checked what codec I had set to make the
avi and it turned out to be "(cvid) Cinepak Codec by Radius"
I chose that one because it gave me the best image quality with my
animations, but it also results in the files being somewhat large.

"PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:

> get the GSpot utility and check the codec used to make the AVI file....
> there's a link to it on the Setup > Other Software page of my site.
>
> If it's some flavor of Divx, Xvid, then such issues are normal... and
> warrant file conversion before using in Movie Maker.
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
> MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
> Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx



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  #7  
Old 01-05-2006, 06:51 AM
PapaJohn \(MVP\)
 
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Default Re: Clip shortening

I've used the Cinepak codec a good bit and haven't run into issues with
Movie Maker... maybe it's something else.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx


"Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5353BE58-A5FD-41FB-BF40-B95095F506C9@microsoft.com...
> So you think it might be a codec problem? All the clips being made are
> being
> built frame-by-frame by myself. I checked what codec I had set to make the
> avi and it turned out to be "(cvid) Cinepak Codec by Radius"
> I chose that one because it gave me the best image quality with my
> animations, but it also results in the files being somewhat large.
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>
>> get the GSpot utility and check the codec used to make the AVI file....
>> there's a link to it on the Setup > Other Software page of my site.
>>
>> If it's some flavor of Divx, Xvid, then such issues are normal... and
>> warrant file conversion before using in Movie Maker.
>> --
>> PapaJohn
>>
>> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
>> MM2 Tips and Tricks:
>> http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
>> Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx

>
>



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  #8  
Old 01-05-2006, 06:51 AM
Graham Hughes
 
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Default Re: Clip shortening

What app are you making these with?
Have you tried putting a few blank frames at the end, these will get cut off
and leave you your finished product, if youhave two many, you can cut the
rest off in MM anyway. I'm not really sure what might be causing it either.

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com


"PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
news:uQwn3V52FHA.472@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> I've used the Cinepak codec a good bit and haven't run into issues with
> Movie Maker... maybe it's something else.
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
> MM2 Tips and Tricks:
> http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
> Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
>
>
> "Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5353BE58-A5FD-41FB-BF40-B95095F506C9@microsoft.com...
>> So you think it might be a codec problem? All the clips being made are
>> being
>> built frame-by-frame by myself. I checked what codec I had set to make
>> the
>> avi and it turned out to be "(cvid) Cinepak Codec by Radius"
>> I chose that one because it gave me the best image quality with my
>> animations, but it also results in the files being somewhat large.
>>
>> "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>>
>>> get the GSpot utility and check the codec used to make the AVI file....
>>> there's a link to it on the Setup > Other Software page of my site.
>>>
>>> If it's some flavor of Divx, Xvid, then such issues are normal... and
>>> warrant file conversion before using in Movie Maker.
>>> --
>>> PapaJohn
>>>
>>> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
>>> MM2 Tips and Tricks:
>>> http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
>>> Online Newsletters:
>>> http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx

>>
>>

>
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 06:51 AM
Lsnewton
 
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Default Re: Clip shortening

The clips are being made with a combination of the RHINO 3D NURBS modelling
software and the BONGO animation plugin. Adding some xtra frames onto the end
would require re-rendering the entire clip, and that really isn't a viable
option cinsidering the time it takes to make one.

"Graham Hughes" wrote:

> What app are you making these with?
> Have you tried putting a few blank frames at the end, these will get cut off
> and leave you your finished product, if youhave two many, you can cut the
> rest off in MM anyway. I'm not really sure what might be causing it either.
>
> --
> Graham Hughes
> MVP Digital Media
> www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
> www.dvds2treasure.com
> www.simplydv.com
>
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
> news:uQwn3V52FHA.472@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > I've used the Cinepak codec a good bit and haven't run into issues with
> > Movie Maker... maybe it's something else.
> > --
> > PapaJohn
> >
> > Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
> > MM2 Tips and Tricks:
> > http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
> > Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
> >
> >
> > "Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:5353BE58-A5FD-41FB-BF40-B95095F506C9@microsoft.com...
> >> So you think it might be a codec problem? All the clips being made are
> >> being
> >> built frame-by-frame by myself. I checked what codec I had set to make
> >> the
> >> avi and it turned out to be "(cvid) Cinepak Codec by Radius"
> >> I chose that one because it gave me the best image quality with my
> >> animations, but it also results in the files being somewhat large.
> >>
> >> "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
> >>
> >>> get the GSpot utility and check the codec used to make the AVI file....
> >>> there's a link to it on the Setup > Other Software page of my site.
> >>>
> >>> If it's some flavor of Divx, Xvid, then such issues are normal... and
> >>> warrant file conversion before using in Movie Maker.
> >>> --
> >>> PapaJohn
> >>>
> >>> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
> >>> MM2 Tips and Tricks:
> >>> http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
> >>> Online Newsletters:
> >>> http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>
>

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  #10  
Old 01-05-2006, 06:51 AM
PapaJohn \(MVP\)
 
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Default Re: Clip shortening

try it in Movie Maker 1
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx


"Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
newsD37676A-16FD-46BB-B1FD-F009DC2B916F@microsoft.com...
> The clips are being made with a combination of the RHINO 3D NURBS
> modelling
> software and the BONGO animation plugin. Adding some xtra frames onto the
> end
> would require re-rendering the entire clip, and that really isn't a viable
> option cinsidering the time it takes to make one.
>
> "Graham Hughes" wrote:
>
>> What app are you making these with?
>> Have you tried putting a few blank frames at the end, these will get cut
>> off
>> and leave you your finished product, if youhave two many, you can cut the
>> rest off in MM anyway. I'm not really sure what might be causing it
>> either.
>>
>> --
>> Graham Hughes
>> MVP Digital Media
>> www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
>> www.dvds2treasure.com
>> www.simplydv.com
>>
>>
>> "PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
>> news:uQwn3V52FHA.472@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> > I've used the Cinepak codec a good bit and haven't run into issues with
>> > Movie Maker... maybe it's something else.
>> > --
>> > PapaJohn
>> >
>> > Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
>> > MM2 Tips and Tricks:
>> > http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
>> > Online Newsletters:
>> > http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
>> >
>> >
>> > "Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:5353BE58-A5FD-41FB-BF40-B95095F506C9@microsoft.com...
>> >> So you think it might be a codec problem? All the clips being made are
>> >> being
>> >> built frame-by-frame by myself. I checked what codec I had set to make
>> >> the
>> >> avi and it turned out to be "(cvid) Cinepak Codec by Radius"
>> >> I chose that one because it gave me the best image quality with my
>> >> animations, but it also results in the files being somewhat large.
>> >>
>> >> "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> get the GSpot utility and check the codec used to make the AVI
>> >>> file....
>> >>> there's a link to it on the Setup > Other Software page of my site.
>> >>>
>> >>> If it's some flavor of Divx, Xvid, then such issues are normal... and
>> >>> warrant file conversion before using in Movie Maker.
>> >>> --
>> >>> PapaJohn
>> >>>
>> >>> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
>> >>> MM2 Tips and Tricks:
>> >>> http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
>> >>> Online Newsletters:
>> >>> http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>
>>
>>



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