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Old 01-05-2006, 06:51 AM
pbleic
 
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Default Colors too intense? Incorrect Gamma? (and sound issue)

I am a newbie to WMM2, but an advanced digital photographer who understands
ICC color profiles, etc. quite well. I am using a fully color managed
environment, including monitor profile.

Here is my problem: I am making a movie out of still photos. These were shot
in either sRGB or AdobeRGB color space, converted to sRGB (with an sRGB
working space) in Photoshop, and either "saved for web" from PS with no
profile, or saved with the sRGB profile assigned. They look great in
non-color managed programs such as Irfanview, or a web browser. So far so
good.

In WMM2 they look great. The movie plays perfectly in WMM2 and colors are
great. When I save the movie on my desktop and play it on my computer the
colors are way too intense - people are too red, and all colors are too
intense. It is the same in Windows Media and a Creative Player (haven't tried
anything else). The video settings are default in WMP. If I increase
brightness and contrast they look like I expect them.

I have tried them on another computer and they look like they should.
However, I am planning on sending them out to dozens of people, and I am
afraid they will look horrible on a percentage of the computers.

I have searched and searched for any color management in either WMM2 or WMP,
or some setting. I am saving these movies under optimized settings, not as
compressed. The photo files are 600 X 400 pixels.

On another issue - on my work laptop the movie looks good, but the WMA
soundtrack is halting throughout.

Help, please.
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Old 01-05-2006, 06:51 AM
PapaJohn \(MVP\)
 
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Default Re: Colors too intense? Incorrect Gamma? (and sound issue)

The Adobe Premiere software goes hand and hand with PhotoShop... and offers
a full 30 day trial version. I'd guess it's the app you might want.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx


"pbleic" <pbleic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:45468D11-F72C-4736-B1B8-A4AB8D8BEE93@microsoft.com...
>I am a newbie to WMM2, but an advanced digital photographer who understands
> ICC color profiles, etc. quite well. I am using a fully color managed
> environment, including monitor profile.
>
> Here is my problem: I am making a movie out of still photos. These were
> shot
> in either sRGB or AdobeRGB color space, converted to sRGB (with an sRGB
> working space) in Photoshop, and either "saved for web" from PS with no
> profile, or saved with the sRGB profile assigned. They look great in
> non-color managed programs such as Irfanview, or a web browser. So far so
> good.
>
> In WMM2 they look great. The movie plays perfectly in WMM2 and colors are
> great. When I save the movie on my desktop and play it on my computer the
> colors are way too intense - people are too red, and all colors are too
> intense. It is the same in Windows Media and a Creative Player (haven't
> tried
> anything else). The video settings are default in WMP. If I increase
> brightness and contrast they look like I expect them.
>
> I have tried them on another computer and they look like they should.
> However, I am planning on sending them out to dozens of people, and I am
> afraid they will look horrible on a percentage of the computers.
>
> I have searched and searched for any color management in either WMM2 or
> WMP,
> or some setting. I am saving these movies under optimized settings, not as
> compressed. The photo files are 600 X 400 pixels.
>
> On another issue - on my work laptop the movie looks good, but the WMA
> soundtrack is halting throughout.
>
> Help, please.



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Old 01-05-2006, 06:51 AM
pbleic
 
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Default Re: Colors too intense? Incorrect Gamma? (and sound issue)

I am confused. My question is - why are the colors so intense on MY
computer. The issue is with the player, not the maker. When played on other
computers, the colors are fine.

Thanks

"PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:

> The Adobe Premiere software goes hand and hand with PhotoShop... and offers
> a full 30 day trial version. I'd guess it's the app you might want.
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
> MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
> Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
>
>
> "pbleic" <pbleic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:45468D11-F72C-4736-B1B8-A4AB8D8BEE93@microsoft.com...
> >I am a newbie to WMM2, but an advanced digital photographer who understands
> > ICC color profiles, etc. quite well. I am using a fully color managed
> > environment, including monitor profile.
> >
> > Here is my problem: I am making a movie out of still photos. These were
> > shot
> > in either sRGB or AdobeRGB color space, converted to sRGB (with an sRGB
> > working space) in Photoshop, and either "saved for web" from PS with no
> > profile, or saved with the sRGB profile assigned. They look great in
> > non-color managed programs such as Irfanview, or a web browser. So far so
> > good.
> >
> > In WMM2 they look great. The movie plays perfectly in WMM2 and colors are
> > great. When I save the movie on my desktop and play it on my computer the
> > colors are way too intense - people are too red, and all colors are too
> > intense. It is the same in Windows Media and a Creative Player (haven't
> > tried
> > anything else). The video settings are default in WMP. If I increase
> > brightness and contrast they look like I expect them.
> >
> > I have tried them on another computer and they look like they should.
> > However, I am planning on sending them out to dozens of people, and I am
> > afraid they will look horrible on a percentage of the computers.
> >
> > I have searched and searched for any color management in either WMM2 or
> > WMP,
> > or some setting. I am saving these movies under optimized settings, not as
> > compressed. The photo files are 600 X 400 pixels.
> >
> > On another issue - on my work laptop the movie looks good, but the WMA
> > soundtrack is halting throughout.
> >
> > Help, please.

>
>
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 06:51 AM
PapaJohn \(MVP\)
 
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Default Re: Colors too intense? Incorrect Gamma? (and sound issue)

if it's not about Movie Maker or video editing apps, maybe the
microsoft.public.windowsxp.video newsgroup is a better one for the question.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx


"pbleic" <pbleic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:24A09B44-390A-4347-A19E-DD8DAC6797E4@microsoft.com...
>I am confused. My question is - why are the colors so intense on MY
> computer. The issue is with the player, not the maker. When played on
> other
> computers, the colors are fine.
>
> Thanks
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>
>> The Adobe Premiere software goes hand and hand with PhotoShop... and
>> offers
>> a full 30 day trial version. I'd guess it's the app you might want.
>> --
>> PapaJohn
>>
>> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
>> MM2 Tips and Tricks:
>> http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
>> Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
>>
>>
>> "pbleic" <pbleic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:45468D11-F72C-4736-B1B8-A4AB8D8BEE93@microsoft.com...
>> >I am a newbie to WMM2, but an advanced digital photographer who
>> >understands
>> > ICC color profiles, etc. quite well. I am using a fully color managed
>> > environment, including monitor profile.
>> >
>> > Here is my problem: I am making a movie out of still photos. These were
>> > shot
>> > in either sRGB or AdobeRGB color space, converted to sRGB (with an sRGB
>> > working space) in Photoshop, and either "saved for web" from PS with no
>> > profile, or saved with the sRGB profile assigned. They look great in
>> > non-color managed programs such as Irfanview, or a web browser. So far
>> > so
>> > good.
>> >
>> > In WMM2 they look great. The movie plays perfectly in WMM2 and colors
>> > are
>> > great. When I save the movie on my desktop and play it on my computer
>> > the
>> > colors are way too intense - people are too red, and all colors are too
>> > intense. It is the same in Windows Media and a Creative Player (haven't
>> > tried
>> > anything else). The video settings are default in WMP. If I increase
>> > brightness and contrast they look like I expect them.
>> >
>> > I have tried them on another computer and they look like they should.
>> > However, I am planning on sending them out to dozens of people, and I
>> > am
>> > afraid they will look horrible on a percentage of the computers.
>> >
>> > I have searched and searched for any color management in either WMM2 or
>> > WMP,
>> > or some setting. I am saving these movies under optimized settings, not
>> > as
>> > compressed. The photo files are 600 X 400 pixels.
>> >
>> > On another issue - on my work laptop the movie looks good, but the WMA
>> > soundtrack is halting throughout.
>> >
>> > Help, please.

>>
>>
>>



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