Some ask why they should use Photo Story and Movie Maker together.... why
not one or the other? Here's a 54 second snippet to help answer.

http://www.papajohn.org/video/SampleStory_Movie.wmv

First I made a story from a single 8+ megapixel still image.... panning and
zooming in PS3 makes use of all the available pixels... saved it to a
1024x768 story wmv file at 189 Kbps.

Then I used the story as a source file to a movie, adding text and music,
and rendered it to a 640x480 wmv file at 768 Kbps...

The story makes the best use of all the pixels.... the movie is easier to
add text and music, and to render a movie that can be viewed by my friends
who use Apples.... they can't view PS3 stories.

--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx

PapaJohn,

I love to use PS3 and MM21 together: that couple is exactly what I need, no
more, no less, to create my family DVD movies.
But I have a problem: PS3 stories re-rendered from MM21 play quite jerky,
and the most rapid and deep the pans and zooms, the most the problem is
noticable (the original PS3 story play smooth).
Wojo reported the same problem (though only with low quality profiles).
To me, the problem occurs whatever the choosen profile in MM21 (PAL).
I really would like a solution to that. Relying on your large experience,
have you some ideas to solve that problem?

Thank you

Michel
Dell Laptop Inspiron 2650, 1.7 Ghz, 512 MB, XP Pro SP2, HD 5400 rpm with not
much space left.


"PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
news:%23aUpIvv%23FHA.740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Some ask why they should use Photo Story and Movie Maker together.... why
> not one or the other? Here's a 54 second snippet to help answer.
>
> http://www.papajohn.org/video/SampleStory_Movie.wmv
>
> First I made a story from a single 8+ megapixel still image.... panning
> and zooming in PS3 makes use of all the available pixels... saved it to a
> 1024x768 story wmv file at 189 Kbps.
>
> Then I used the story as a source file to a movie, adding text and music,
> and rendered it to a 640x480 wmv file at 768 Kbps...
>
> The story makes the best use of all the pixels.... the movie is easier to
> add text and music, and to render a movie that can be viewed by my friends
> who use Apples.... they can't view PS3 stories.
>
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
> MM2 Tips and Tricks:
> http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
> Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
>
>

Have you tried any of the profiles from my Saving Movies > Custom WMV
Profiles page, such as the link 'Heading to DVD - PAL' one....

and the profiles for PS3 toward the bottom of the Photo Story 3 > Saving
page.

I don't use PAL, maybe something different about it???
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx


"Michel" <michel@m.m> wrote in message
news:elKwQfw%23FHA.3676@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> PapaJohn,
>
> I love to use PS3 and MM21 together: that couple is exactly what I need,
> no more, no less, to create my family DVD movies.
> But I have a problem: PS3 stories re-rendered from MM21 play quite jerky,
> and the most rapid and deep the pans and zooms, the most the problem is
> noticable (the original PS3 story play smooth).
> Wojo reported the same problem (though only with low quality profiles).
> To me, the problem occurs whatever the choosen profile in MM21 (PAL).
> I really would like a solution to that. Relying on your large experience,
> have you some ideas to solve that problem?
>
> Thank you
>
> Michel
> Dell Laptop Inspiron 2650, 1.7 Ghz, 512 MB, XP Pro SP2, HD 5400 rpm with
> not much space left.
>
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
> news:%23aUpIvv%23FHA.740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Some ask why they should use Photo Story and Movie Maker together.... why
>> not one or the other? Here's a 54 second snippet to help answer.
>>
>> http://www.papajohn.org/video/SampleStory_Movie.wmv
>>
>> First I made a story from a single 8+ megapixel still image.... panning
>> and zooming in PS3 makes use of all the available pixels... saved it to a
>> 1024x768 story wmv file at 189 Kbps.
>>
>> Then I used the story as a source file to a movie, adding text and music,
>> and rendered it to a 640x480 wmv file at 768 Kbps...
>>
>> The story makes the best use of all the pixels.... the movie is easier to
>> add text and music, and to render a movie that can be viewed by my
>> friends who use Apples.... they can't view PS3 stories.
>>
>> --
>> PapaJohn
>>
>> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
>> MM2 Tips and Tricks:
>> http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
>> Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
>>
>>
>
>

Just as I was about to write in a general question regarding combining PS3
and MM2 I read your post. Your answer to that question seemed to cover my
concerns. My next project will follow the guideline of your "54 second
snippet." Beautiful job and background music! Thanks.

"PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:

> Some ask why they should use Photo Story and Movie Maker together.... why
> not one or the other? Here's a 54 second snippet to help answer.
>
> http://www.papajohn.org/video/SampleStory_Movie.wmv
>
> First I made a story from a single 8+ megapixel still image.... panning and
> zooming in PS3 makes use of all the available pixels... saved it to a
> 1024x768 story wmv file at 189 Kbps.
>
> Then I used the story as a source file to a movie, adding text and music,
> and rendered it to a 640x480 wmv file at 768 Kbps...
>
> The story makes the best use of all the pixels.... the movie is easier to
> add text and music, and to render a movie that can be viewed by my friends
> who use Apples.... they can't view PS3 stories.
>
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
> MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
> Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
>
>
>

Thanks... I'm glad it helped your planning...
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx



"Breadstick" <Breadstick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8E509270-22F8-464F-A9CA-75EFF52075A6@microsoft.com...
> Just as I was about to write in a general question regarding combining PS3
> and MM2 I read your post. Your answer to that question seemed to cover my
> concerns. My next project will follow the guideline of your "54 second
> snippet." Beautiful job and background music! Thanks.
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>
>> Some ask why they should use Photo Story and Movie Maker together.... why
>> not one or the other? Here's a 54 second snippet to help answer.
>>
>> http://www.papajohn.org/video/SampleStory_Movie.wmv
>>
>> First I made a story from a single 8+ megapixel still image.... panning
>> and
>> zooming in PS3 makes use of all the available pixels... saved it to a
>> 1024x768 story wmv file at 189 Kbps.
>>
>> Then I used the story as a source file to a movie, adding text and music,
>> and rendered it to a 640x480 wmv file at 768 Kbps...
>>
>> The story makes the best use of all the pixels.... the movie is easier to
>> add text and music, and to render a movie that can be viewed by my
>> friends
>> who use Apples.... they can't view PS3 stories.
>>
>> --
>> PapaJohn
>>
>> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
>> MM2 Tips and Tricks:
>> http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
>> Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
>>
>>
>>

Well I didn't read it until AFTER I made a comment that we needed to talk
about that combination..ah well my timing isn't perfect today.
-Wojo

"Breadstick" <Breadstick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8E509270-22F8-464F-A9CA-75EFF52075A6@microsoft.com...
> Just as I was about to write in a general question regarding combining PS3
> and MM2 I read your post. Your answer to that question seemed to cover my
> concerns. My next project will follow the guideline of your "54 second
> snippet." Beautiful job and background music! Thanks.
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>
>> Some ask why they should use Photo Story and Movie Maker together.... why
>> not one or the other? Here's a 54 second snippet to help answer.
>>
>> http://www.papajohn.org/video/SampleStory_Movie.wmv
>>
>> First I made a story from a single 8+ megapixel still image.... panning
>> and
>> zooming in PS3 makes use of all the available pixels... saved it to a
>> 1024x768 story wmv file at 189 Kbps.
>>
>> Then I used the story as a source file to a movie, adding text and music,
>> and rendered it to a 640x480 wmv file at 768 Kbps...
>>
>> The story makes the best use of all the pixels.... the movie is easier to
>> add text and music, and to render a movie that can be viewed by my
>> friends
>> who use Apples.... they can't view PS3 stories.
>>
>> --
>> PapaJohn
>>
>> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
>> MM2 Tips and Tricks:
>> http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
>> Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
>>
>>
>>

I actually found now that if I render in 640x480 I don't have that issue
after going through WMM.
It was when I used a higher resolution 1024x768 or 800x600 that the issue
showed up.
-Wojo

"Michel" <michel@m.m> wrote in message
news:elKwQfw%23FHA.3676@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> PapaJohn,
>
> I love to use PS3 and MM21 together: that couple is exactly what I need,
> no more, no less, to create my family DVD movies.
> But I have a problem: PS3 stories re-rendered from MM21 play quite jerky,
> and the most rapid and deep the pans and zooms, the most the problem is
> noticable (the original PS3 story play smooth).
> Wojo reported the same problem (though only with low quality profiles).
> To me, the problem occurs whatever the choosen profile in MM21 (PAL).
> I really would like a solution to that. Relying on your large experience,
> have you some ideas to solve that problem?
>
> Thank you
>
> Michel
> Dell Laptop Inspiron 2650, 1.7 Ghz, 512 MB, XP Pro SP2, HD 5400 rpm with
> not much space left.
>
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
> news:%23aUpIvv%23FHA.740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Some ask why they should use Photo Story and Movie Maker together.... why
>> not one or the other? Here's a 54 second snippet to help answer.
>>
>> http://www.papajohn.org/video/SampleStory_Movie.wmv
>>
>> First I made a story from a single 8+ megapixel still image.... panning
>> and zooming in PS3 makes use of all the available pixels... saved it to a
>> 1024x768 story wmv file at 189 Kbps.
>>
>> Then I used the story as a source file to a movie, adding text and music,
>> and rendered it to a 640x480 wmv file at 768 Kbps...
>>
>> The story makes the best use of all the pixels.... the movie is easier to
>> add text and music, and to render a movie that can be viewed by my
>> friends who use Apples.... they can't view PS3 stories.
>>
>> --
>> PapaJohn
>>
>> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
>> MM2 Tips and Tricks:
>> http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
>> Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
>>
>>
>
>

In MM21, I need to render to dv-avi because my final format is DVD. I have
tried your "PapaJohn WMV for DVD (PAL)" profile. After encoding through
TMPGENc, I have found an very noticable loss of sharpness. So I keep using
dv-avi out of MM21.

In PS3, I have tried your "PapaJohn - DVD profile (PAL). When re-rendered in
MM21, I have the "jerkyness" problem.

Maybe the problem is specific to PAL projects? I will try NTSC and report
here if it makes a difference.

Thank you.

Michel



"PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
news:euohyo0%23FHA.1124@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Have you tried any of the profiles from my Saving Movies > Custom WMV
> Profiles page, such as the link 'Heading to DVD - PAL' one....
>
> and the profiles for PS3 toward the bottom of the Photo Story 3 > Saving
> page.
>
> I don't use PAL, maybe something different about it???
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
> MM2 Tips and Tricks:
> http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
> Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
>
>
> "Michel" <michel@m.m> wrote in message
> news:elKwQfw%23FHA.3676@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> PapaJohn,
>>
>> I love to use PS3 and MM21 together: that couple is exactly what I need,
>> no more, no less, to create my family DVD movies.
>> But I have a problem: PS3 stories re-rendered from MM21 play quite jerky,
>> and the most rapid and deep the pans and zooms, the most the problem is
>> noticable (the original PS3 story play smooth).
>> Wojo reported the same problem (though only with low quality profiles).
>> To me, the problem occurs whatever the choosen profile in MM21 (PAL).
>> I really would like a solution to that. Relying on your large experience,
>> have you some ideas to solve that problem?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Michel
>> Dell Laptop Inspiron 2650, 1.7 Ghz, 512 MB, XP Pro SP2, HD 5400 rpm with
>> not much space left.
>>
>>
>> "PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23aUpIvv%23FHA.740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> Some ask why they should use Photo Story and Movie Maker together....
>>> why not one or the other? Here's a 54 second snippet to help answer.
>>>
>>> http://www.papajohn.org/video/SampleStory_Movie.wmv
>>>
>>> First I made a story from a single 8+ megapixel still image.... panning
>>> and zooming in PS3 makes use of all the available pixels... saved it to
>>> a 1024x768 story wmv file at 189 Kbps.
>>>
>>> Then I used the story as a source file to a movie, adding text and
>>> music, and rendered it to a 640x480 wmv file at 768 Kbps...
>>>
>>> The story makes the best use of all the pixels.... the movie is easier
>>> to add text and music, and to render a movie that can be viewed by my
>>> friends who use Apples.... they can't view PS3 stories.
>>>
>>> --
>>> PapaJohn
>>>
>>> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
>>> MM2 Tips and Tricks:
>>> http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
>>> Online Newsletters:
>>> http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>