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Old 01-05-2006, 07:01 AM
George
 
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Default What file format to save exact replica of DVD tape

I'd like to copy my small DVD tapes from Sony digital video camcorder. It's
an average on, maybe 3 yrs old, but it is digital and connects to PC via
IEEE 1394. Wondered if this is right idea?...

UPLOAD
Ok, so I connect Sony cam to PC, and click Capture. About an hour later
(right?, it's a 1-hour tape), WinMM on PC should ask what to name file,
right? To copy "exactly" what's on the DVD take...and to get "everything"
off the tape (no condensing, compressing, lossiness, etc.), what name
(extension or format) do I select? 2005MOVIES._____?

DOWNLOAD
Suppose I want to give a friend an exact copy of my original Sony DVD tape.
Would I just put in a blank DVD tape in Sony cam, connect it to PC, select
2005MOVIES.___ (that I already uploaded), then click "REC" on the camera?
Would the Sony cam then start downloading the movie? Would it be "exact" or
will there be loss, degradation, etc.

FOREVER DIGITAL TEST...
If I did this cycle 1000 times, would the 1000th tape end up an exact
digital copy of the first tape? LIke this...

SonyCam orig TAPE1 > Capture to PC filename > Save to filename > Open
filename > Record back down to SonyCam TAPE2

SonyCam TAPE2 > Capture to PC filename > Save to filename > Open filename >
Record back down to SonyCam TAPE3

....

SonyCam TAPE999 > Capture to PC filename > Save to filename > Open filename
> Record back down to SonyCam TAPE1000


Thanks,
George


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Old 01-05-2006, 07:01 AM
PapaJohn \(MVP\)
 
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Default Re: What file format to save exact replica of DVD tape

yes, with minor changes... but it's easier to use the WinDV utility if you
just want to copy the tape to the hard drive and then put it on other
tapes... there's a link on the Setup > Other Software page of my website.

the minor change is that you keep the camcorder in the VCR/VTR mode when
capturing or copying it back....

yes, it's an exact copy
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx



"George" <air1@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:eaJD9lBAGHA.264@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I'd like to copy my small DVD tapes from Sony digital video camcorder.
> It's
> an average on, maybe 3 yrs old, but it is digital and connects to PC via
> IEEE 1394. Wondered if this is right idea?...
>
> UPLOAD
> Ok, so I connect Sony cam to PC, and click Capture. About an hour later
> (right?, it's a 1-hour tape), WinMM on PC should ask what to name file,
> right? To copy "exactly" what's on the DVD take...and to get "everything"
> off the tape (no condensing, compressing, lossiness, etc.), what name
> (extension or format) do I select? 2005MOVIES._____?
>
> DOWNLOAD
> Suppose I want to give a friend an exact copy of my original Sony DVD
> tape.
> Would I just put in a blank DVD tape in Sony cam, connect it to PC, select
> 2005MOVIES.___ (that I already uploaded), then click "REC" on the camera?
> Would the Sony cam then start downloading the movie? Would it be "exact"
> or
> will there be loss, degradation, etc.
>
> FOREVER DIGITAL TEST...
> If I did this cycle 1000 times, would the 1000th tape end up an exact
> digital copy of the first tape? LIke this...
>
> SonyCam orig TAPE1 > Capture to PC filename > Save to filename > Open
> filename > Record back down to SonyCam TAPE2
>
> SonyCam TAPE2 > Capture to PC filename > Save to filename > Open filename
> >

> Record back down to SonyCam TAPE3
>
> ...
>
> SonyCam TAPE999 > Capture to PC filename > Save to filename > Open
> filename
>> Record back down to SonyCam TAPE1000

>
> Thanks,
> George
>
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 07:01 AM
Graham Hughes
 
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Default Re: What file format to save exact replica of DVD tape

Agree with PJ here. On the what format to select question, you select it
before capturing and it should be dv-avi.
http://www.myvideoproblems.com/Tutor...tureDV-AVI.htm

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com


"PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
news:elkQPsBAGHA.3136@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> yes, with minor changes... but it's easier to use the WinDV utility if you
> just want to copy the tape to the hard drive and then put it on other
> tapes... there's a link on the Setup > Other Software page of my website.
>
> the minor change is that you keep the camcorder in the VCR/VTR mode when
> capturing or copying it back....
>
> yes, it's an exact copy
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
> MM2 Tips and Tricks:
> http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
> Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
>
>
>
> "George" <air1@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:eaJD9lBAGHA.264@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> I'd like to copy my small DVD tapes from Sony digital video camcorder.
>> It's
>> an average on, maybe 3 yrs old, but it is digital and connects to PC via
>> IEEE 1394. Wondered if this is right idea?...
>>
>> UPLOAD
>> Ok, so I connect Sony cam to PC, and click Capture. About an hour later
>> (right?, it's a 1-hour tape), WinMM on PC should ask what to name file,
>> right? To copy "exactly" what's on the DVD take...and to get
>> "everything"
>> off the tape (no condensing, compressing, lossiness, etc.), what name
>> (extension or format) do I select? 2005MOVIES._____?
>>
>> DOWNLOAD
>> Suppose I want to give a friend an exact copy of my original Sony DVD
>> tape.
>> Would I just put in a blank DVD tape in Sony cam, connect it to PC,
>> select
>> 2005MOVIES.___ (that I already uploaded), then click "REC" on the camera?
>> Would the Sony cam then start downloading the movie? Would it be "exact"
>> or
>> will there be loss, degradation, etc.
>>
>> FOREVER DIGITAL TEST...
>> If I did this cycle 1000 times, would the 1000th tape end up an exact
>> digital copy of the first tape? LIke this...
>>
>> SonyCam orig TAPE1 > Capture to PC filename > Save to filename > Open
>> filename > Record back down to SonyCam TAPE2
>>
>> SonyCam TAPE2 > Capture to PC filename > Save to filename > Open filename
>> >

>> Record back down to SonyCam TAPE3
>>
>> ...
>>
>> SonyCam TAPE999 > Capture to PC filename > Save to filename > Open
>> filename
>>> Record back down to SonyCam TAPE1000

>>
>> Thanks,
>> George
>>
>>

>
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 07:01 AM
KDE
 
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Default Re: What file format to save exact replica of DVD tape

I know we're talking hypothetical situation here, but 1000 tapes = 1000
hours (minimum) the whole point of doing things digitally is you can copy
and reproduce in a fraction of the time. consider taking your imported
tape, burn to DVD (or better yet dvd-image file) and then you can burn a new
DVD for a friend within a few minutes.


"Graham Hughes" <graham.hughes@dvds2treasure.co.uk> wrote in message
news:%23Fl0g0DAGHA.3140@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| Agree with PJ here. On the what format to select question, you select it
| before capturing and it should be dv-avi.
| http://www.myvideoproblems.com/Tutor...tureDV-AVI.htm
|
| --
| Graham Hughes
| MVP Digital Media
| www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
| www.dvds2treasure.com
| www.simplydv.com
|
|
| "PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
| news:elkQPsBAGHA.3136@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| > yes, with minor changes... but it's easier to use the WinDV utility if
you
| > just want to copy the tape to the hard drive and then put it on other
| > tapes... there's a link on the Setup > Other Software page of my
website.
| >
| > the minor change is that you keep the camcorder in the VCR/VTR mode when
| > capturing or copying it back....
| >
| > yes, it's an exact copy
| > --
| > PapaJohn
| >
| > Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
| > MM2 Tips and Tricks:
| > http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
| > Online Newsletters:
http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
| >
| >
| >
| > "George" <air1@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
| > news:eaJD9lBAGHA.264@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| >> I'd like to copy my small DVD tapes from Sony digital video camcorder.
| >> It's
| >> an average on, maybe 3 yrs old, but it is digital and connects to PC
via
| >> IEEE 1394. Wondered if this is right idea?...
| >>
| >> UPLOAD
| >> Ok, so I connect Sony cam to PC, and click Capture. About an hour
later
| >> (right?, it's a 1-hour tape), WinMM on PC should ask what to name file,
| >> right? To copy "exactly" what's on the DVD take...and to get
| >> "everything"
| >> off the tape (no condensing, compressing, lossiness, etc.), what name
| >> (extension or format) do I select? 2005MOVIES._____?
| >>
| >> DOWNLOAD
| >> Suppose I want to give a friend an exact copy of my original Sony DVD
| >> tape.
| >> Would I just put in a blank DVD tape in Sony cam, connect it to PC,
| >> select
| >> 2005MOVIES.___ (that I already uploaded), then click "REC" on the
camera?
| >> Would the Sony cam then start downloading the movie? Would it be
"exact"
| >> or
| >> will there be loss, degradation, etc.
| >>
| >> FOREVER DIGITAL TEST...
| >> If I did this cycle 1000 times, would the 1000th tape end up an exact
| >> digital copy of the first tape? LIke this...
| >>
| >> SonyCam orig TAPE1 > Capture to PC filename > Save to filename > Open
| >> filename > Record back down to SonyCam TAPE2
| >>
| >> SonyCam TAPE2 > Capture to PC filename > Save to filename > Open
filename
| >> >
| >> Record back down to SonyCam TAPE3
| >>
| >> ...
| >>
| >> SonyCam TAPE999 > Capture to PC filename > Save to filename > Open
| >> filename
| >>> Record back down to SonyCam TAPE1000
| >>
| >> Thanks,
| >> George
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|


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Old 01-05-2006, 07:02 AM
Wojo
 
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Default Re: What file format to save exact replica of DVD tape

I agree with KDE.
Many people prefer saving on the magnetic media of a tape for archival
purposes as it is more reliable than DVD, and it truly is, but I still
prefer archiving on a DVD and my hard drive for the ease of reimporting to
use again later. I date all my DVD backups and every 3-5 years I plan to use
it to create a new DVD backup so I don't have to worry about losing it. I
figure the technology will come a long way in 5 years and I likely will only
have to go through the process of copying back to the HDD and re-archiving
on a new DVD once (hopefully).
-Wojo

"KDE" <knott_me@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eylNfDNAGHA.3864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>I know we're talking hypothetical situation here, but 1000 tapes = 1000
> hours (minimum) the whole point of doing things digitally is you can
> copy
> and reproduce in a fraction of the time. consider taking your imported
> tape, burn to DVD (or better yet dvd-image file) and then you can burn a
> new
> DVD for a friend within a few minutes.
>
>
> "Graham Hughes" <graham.hughes@dvds2treasure.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:%23Fl0g0DAGHA.3140@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> | Agree with PJ here. On the what format to select question, you select it
> | before capturing and it should be dv-avi.
> |
> http://www.myvideoproblems.com/Tutor...tureDV-AVI.htm
> |
> | --
> | Graham Hughes
> | MVP Digital Media
> | www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
> | www.dvds2treasure.com
> | www.simplydv.com
> |
> |
> | "PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
> | news:elkQPsBAGHA.3136@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> | > yes, with minor changes... but it's easier to use the WinDV utility if
> you
> | > just want to copy the tape to the hard drive and then put it on other
> | > tapes... there's a link on the Setup > Other Software page of my
> website.
> | >
> | > the minor change is that you keep the camcorder in the VCR/VTR mode
> when
> | > capturing or copying it back....
> | >
> | > yes, it's an exact copy
> | > --
> | > PapaJohn
> | >
> | > Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
> | > MM2 Tips and Tricks:
> | > http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
> | > Online Newsletters:
> http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > "George" <air1@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> | > news:eaJD9lBAGHA.264@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> | >> I'd like to copy my small DVD tapes from Sony digital video
> camcorder.
> | >> It's
> | >> an average on, maybe 3 yrs old, but it is digital and connects to PC
> via
> | >> IEEE 1394. Wondered if this is right idea?...
> | >>
> | >> UPLOAD
> | >> Ok, so I connect Sony cam to PC, and click Capture. About an hour
> later
> | >> (right?, it's a 1-hour tape), WinMM on PC should ask what to name
> file,
> | >> right? To copy "exactly" what's on the DVD take...and to get
> | >> "everything"
> | >> off the tape (no condensing, compressing, lossiness, etc.), what name
> | >> (extension or format) do I select? 2005MOVIES._____?
> | >>
> | >> DOWNLOAD
> | >> Suppose I want to give a friend an exact copy of my original Sony DVD
> | >> tape.
> | >> Would I just put in a blank DVD tape in Sony cam, connect it to PC,
> | >> select
> | >> 2005MOVIES.___ (that I already uploaded), then click "REC" on the
> camera?
> | >> Would the Sony cam then start downloading the movie? Would it be
> "exact"
> | >> or
> | >> will there be loss, degradation, etc.
> | >>
> | >> FOREVER DIGITAL TEST...
> | >> If I did this cycle 1000 times, would the 1000th tape end up an exact
> | >> digital copy of the first tape? LIke this...
> | >>
> | >> SonyCam orig TAPE1 > Capture to PC filename > Save to filename > Open
> | >> filename > Record back down to SonyCam TAPE2
> | >>
> | >> SonyCam TAPE2 > Capture to PC filename > Save to filename > Open
> filename
> | >> >
> | >> Record back down to SonyCam TAPE3
> | >>
> | >> ...
> | >>
> | >> SonyCam TAPE999 > Capture to PC filename > Save to filename > Open
> | >> filename
> | >>> Record back down to SonyCam TAPE1000
> | >>
> | >> Thanks,
> | >> George
> | >>
> | >>
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>



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