Resolution for scanned images to be projected

This may be very basic to everyone. I apologize if it is. BUT...
I am trying to create a presentation using mainly still images that will be
projected on to a wall. What resolution should my images be scanned at? 300
dpi? 1200 dpi? Welcome the help!!

the dpi doesn't make a difference.... scan them so they have pixel
dimensions of at least 800 wide by 600 high.... and more pixels is better
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
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"hebutt" <hebutt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> This may be very basic to everyone. I apologize if it is. BUT...
> I am trying to create a presentation using mainly still images that will
> be
> projected on to a wall. What resolution should my images be scanned at?
> 300
> dpi? 1200 dpi? Welcome the help!!

<SNIP>and more pixels is better...

Isn't that not necessarily the case, especially when using photos to burn a
movie file?? please correct me if I am way off, but doesn't the rendering
process convert everything in your movie to the resolution of the finished
movie.
for example, if final destination is NTSC DVD, then whatever photo you add
will end up at 720 x 480. Granted a larger resolution original will allow
for panning and zooming without having to stretch and enlarge, but does
starting with ultra-high resolution originals gain you anything in the final
process ???

curious to hear your thoughts

-KDE


"PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
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| the dpi doesn't make a difference.... scan them so they have pixel
| dimensions of at least 800 wide by 600 high.... and more pixels is better
| --
| PapaJohn
|
| Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
| MM2 Tips and Tricks:
http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
| Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
|
| "hebutt" <hebutt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| news:7B72F9B4-9660-4266-887D-62666B02775E@microsoft.com...
| > This may be very basic to everyone. I apologize if it is. BUT...
| > I am trying to create a presentation using mainly still images that will
| > be
| > projected on to a wall. What resolution should my images be scanned at?
| > 300
| > dpi? 1200 dpi? Welcome the help!!
|
|

the post said the presentation will be projected, not necessarily played on
a DVD/TV..... a projection system can handle larger sized videos... and it
can handle photo stories, often a better option than a movie when starting
with a scanned image.

I said at least 800x600 as that would be fine for a movie heading toward
DVD, and high enough quality to look good on a projection system....

My newsletter this week is about starting with a scanned picture and using
it in a story or movie... here are 3 different projects from the same
images... the first used in a Photo Story and the other two in movies.

http://www.papajohn.org/Newsletters/...ClockStory.wmv
http://www.papajohn.org/Newsletters/...kVideoClip.wmv
http://www.papajohn.org/Newsletters/82-ClockOverlay.wmv

the image for the story was scanned at 7169x3537 pixels (25+ megapixels)
the image for use as a video clip is 856x480 pixels... for a widescreen
NTSC-sized one
the image for the overlay is also 856x480 pixels

so the width of all 3 were more than 800 pixels... scanning once at a higher
resolution seems better than going back for a second scan if you decide to
do something with the image that can use the extra pixels.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx


"KDE" <knott_me@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e84zcNPAGHA.3296@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> <SNIP>and more pixels is better...
>
> Isn't that not necessarily the case, especially when using photos to burn
> a
> movie file?? please correct me if I am way off, but doesn't the
> rendering
> process convert everything in your movie to the resolution of the finished
> movie.
> for example, if final destination is NTSC DVD, then whatever photo you add
> will end up at 720 x 480. Granted a larger resolution original will
> allow
> for panning and zooming without having to stretch and enlarge, but does
> starting with ultra-high resolution originals gain you anything in the
> final
> process ???
>
> curious to hear your thoughts
>
> -KDE
>
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
> news:%23b3EteOAGHA.1028@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> | the dpi doesn't make a difference.... scan them so they have pixel
> | dimensions of at least 800 wide by 600 high.... and more pixels is
> better
> | --
> | PapaJohn
> |
> | Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
> | MM2 Tips and Tricks:
> http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
> | Online Newsletters:
> http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
> |
> | "hebutt" <hebutt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | news:7B72F9B4-9660-4266-887D-62666B02775E@microsoft.com...
> | > This may be very basic to everyone. I apologize if it is. BUT...
> | > I am trying to create a presentation using mainly still images that
> will
> | > be
> | > projected on to a wall. What resolution should my images be scanned
> at?
> | > 300
> | > dpi? 1200 dpi? Welcome the help!!
> |
> |
>
>

fair enough, and yes he did say projected rather than DVD, but I guess I
assumed since without custom profiles in moviemaker the highest resolution
of any finished movie wouldn't be higher than 720 x 480, I didn't see the
sense in using 25+ megapixel images since adding several hundred very high
resolution photos to moviemaker will usually bring it to its knees.

thanks again for the input
as always, we bow to the king - papajohn. ;-)
-KDE

"PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
news:%23V6pONQAGHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
|
| the post said the presentation will be projected, not necessarily played
on
| a DVD/TV..... a projection system can handle larger sized videos... and it
| can handle photo stories, often a better option than a movie when starting
| with a scanned image.
|
| I said at least 800x600 as that would be fine for a movie heading toward
| DVD, and high enough quality to look good on a projection system....
|
| My newsletter this week is about starting with a scanned picture and using
| it in a story or movie... here are 3 different projects from the same
| images... the first used in a Photo Story and the other two in movies.
|
| http://www.papajohn.org/Newsletters/...ClockStory.wmv
| http://www.papajohn.org/Newsletters/...kVideoClip.wmv
| http://www.papajohn.org/Newsletters/82-ClockOverlay.wmv
|
| the image for the story was scanned at 7169x3537 pixels (25+ megapixels)
| the image for use as a video clip is 856x480 pixels... for a widescreen
| NTSC-sized one
| the image for the overlay is also 856x480 pixels
|
| so the width of all 3 were more than 800 pixels... scanning once at a
higher
| resolution seems better than going back for a second scan if you decide to
| do something with the image that can use the extra pixels.
| --
| PapaJohn
|
| Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
| MM2 Tips and Tricks:
http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
| Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
|
|
| "KDE" <knott_me@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:e84zcNPAGHA.3296@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > <SNIP>and more pixels is better...
| >
| > Isn't that not necessarily the case, especially when using photos to
burn
| > a
| > movie file?? please correct me if I am way off, but doesn't the
| > rendering
| > process convert everything in your movie to the resolution of the
finished
| > movie.
| > for example, if final destination is NTSC DVD, then whatever photo you
add
| > will end up at 720 x 480. Granted a larger resolution original will
| > allow
| > for panning and zooming without having to stretch and enlarge, but does
| > starting with ultra-high resolution originals gain you anything in the
| > final
| > process ???
| >
| > curious to hear your thoughts
| >
| > -KDE
| >
| >
| > "PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
| > news:%23b3EteOAGHA.1028@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| > | the dpi doesn't make a difference.... scan them so they have pixel
| > | dimensions of at least 800 wide by 600 high.... and more pixels is
| > better
| > | --
| > | PapaJohn
| > |
| > | Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
| > | MM2 Tips and Tricks:
| > http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
| > | Online Newsletters:
| > http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
| > |
| > | "hebutt" <hebutt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | news:7B72F9B4-9660-4266-887D-62666B02775E@microsoft.com...
| > | > This may be very basic to everyone. I apologize if it is. BUT...
| > | > I am trying to create a presentation using mainly still images that
| > will
| > | > be
| > | > projected on to a wall. What resolution should my images be scanned
| > at?
| > | > 300
| > | > dpi? 1200 dpi? Welcome the help!!
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
|

no king at this end.... but thanks....

my testing of the memory needed by Movie Maker to preview or render a movie
from really big images versus normal sized ones showed minimal if any extra
was needed... so I don't consider it a factor.

what I understand is that Movie Maker resamples the images to something like
800x600 before applying effects, transitions, text, etc.... so it would do
them one at a time as it chugs through the rendering. The only extra effort
would be needed for the image it's currently working on.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx


"KDE" <knott_me@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OD8ijhQAGHA.2696@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> fair enough, and yes he did say projected rather than DVD, but I guess I
> assumed since without custom profiles in moviemaker the highest resolution
> of any finished movie wouldn't be higher than 720 x 480, I didn't see the
> sense in using 25+ megapixel images since adding several hundred very high
> resolution photos to moviemaker will usually bring it to its knees.
>
> thanks again for the input
> as always, we bow to the king - papajohn. ;-)
> -KDE
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
> news:%23V6pONQAGHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> |
> | the post said the presentation will be projected, not necessarily played
> on
> | a DVD/TV..... a projection system can handle larger sized videos... and
> it
> | can handle photo stories, often a better option than a movie when
> starting
> | with a scanned image.
> |
> | I said at least 800x600 as that would be fine for a movie heading toward
> | DVD, and high enough quality to look good on a projection system....
> |
> | My newsletter this week is about starting with a scanned picture and
> using
> | it in a story or movie... here are 3 different projects from the same
> | images... the first used in a Photo Story and the other two in movies.
> |
> | http://www.papajohn.org/Newsletters/...ClockStory.wmv
> | http://www.papajohn.org/Newsletters/...kVideoClip.wmv
> | http://www.papajohn.org/Newsletters/82-ClockOverlay.wmv
> |
> | the image for the story was scanned at 7169x3537 pixels (25+ megapixels)
> | the image for use as a video clip is 856x480 pixels... for a widescreen
> | NTSC-sized one
> | the image for the overlay is also 856x480 pixels
> |
> | so the width of all 3 were more than 800 pixels... scanning once at a
> higher
> | resolution seems better than going back for a second scan if you decide
> to
> | do something with the image that can use the extra pixels.
> | --
> | PapaJohn
> |
> | Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
> | MM2 Tips and Tricks:
> http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
> | Online Newsletters:
> http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
> |
> |
> | "KDE" <knott_me@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:e84zcNPAGHA.3296@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> | > <SNIP>and more pixels is better...
> | >
> | > Isn't that not necessarily the case, especially when using photos to
> burn
> | > a
> | > movie file?? please correct me if I am way off, but doesn't the
> | > rendering
> | > process convert everything in your movie to the resolution of the
> finished
> | > movie.
> | > for example, if final destination is NTSC DVD, then whatever photo you
> add
> | > will end up at 720 x 480. Granted a larger resolution original will
> | > allow
> | > for panning and zooming without having to stretch and enlarge, but
> does
> | > starting with ultra-high resolution originals gain you anything in the
> | > final
> | > process ???
> | >
> | > curious to hear your thoughts
> | >
> | > -KDE
> | >
> | >
> | > "PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
> | > news:%23b3EteOAGHA.1028@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> | > | the dpi doesn't make a difference.... scan them so they have pixel
> | > | dimensions of at least 800 wide by 600 high.... and more pixels is
> | > better
> | > | --
> | > | PapaJohn
> | > |
> | > | Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
> | > | MM2 Tips and Tricks:
> | > http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
> | > | Online Newsletters:
> | > http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
> | > |
> | > | "hebutt" <hebutt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | news:7B72F9B4-9660-4266-887D-62666B02775E@microsoft.com...
> | > | > This may be very basic to everyone. I apologize if it is. BUT...
> | > | > I am trying to create a presentation using mainly still images
> that
> | > will
> | > | > be
> | > | > projected on to a wall. What resolution should my images be
> scanned
> | > at?
> | > | > 300
> | > | > dpi? 1200 dpi? Welcome the help!!
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
> |
>
>

Thanks guys for taking the time to reply. I had a small panic attack as I
was putting together a photo montage for my upcoming wedding. (Someone had
told me Movie Maker would be better to use than Power Point.) Either way I
am use to dealling with scanned images when it comes to print rather than in
any other digital media formats.
It is currently the hope that the presentation will be shown using a digital
projector rather than a TV/DVD as it will be able to be seen by a larger
crowd at once.
So once again thanks for your imput.
Heather

take a look at Photo Story 3.... another option.... my website has a section
about getting and using it. A free download from Microsoft.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx


"hebutt" <hebutt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5DCC4FA3-FA7C-4718-B93F-6F970B915EF0@microsoft.com...
> Thanks guys for taking the time to reply. I had a small panic attack as I
> was putting together a photo montage for my upcoming wedding. (Someone
> had
> told me Movie Maker would be better to use than Power Point.) Either way
> I
> am use to dealling with scanned images when it comes to print rather than
> in
> any other digital media formats.
> It is currently the hope that the presentation will be shown using a
> digital
> projector rather than a TV/DVD as it will be able to be seen by a larger
> crowd at once.
> So once again thanks for your imput.
> Heather
>