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Old 01-05-2006, 04:02 AM
greyboomer
 
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Default Re: Cannot access workgroup

Yes, I have run IPConfig and Browstat sta on both machines, and I have run
cdiag but it's not putting the output into a notepad file for some reason so
I have not been able to post it here.

Browstat Sta on the machine which has unrestriced workgroup access says the
master browser is running on the other machine. Browstat sta on the second
machine show master browser problem and resorts to the back-up browser.

I am not particulary good at DOS code so I really don't know for sure how to
get those exact ourputs into a notepad file for posting here.

The only thing different other than IPaddress on the IPCONFIG output is the
node type, Hybrid on the good machine and unknown on the bad one. Also the
bad one is showing a shared internet connection on the Network Connections
page. The good machine is not. My Lan connects to the internet through
D-Link 624c (firmware updated) via a Speedstream 5100 DLS modem, all hard
wire.

Additionally, I have reset winsock and TCP/IP on the bad machine.

Greenbean or Tuna & potato chip casserole?

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 00:44:07 -0800, "greyboomer"
> <greyboomer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >"Joseph Carrier" wrote:
> >

>
> >> "greyboomer" <greyboomer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:2343F314-CB65-47FB-90E7-9299A0BFCBE0@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have a 2 computer workgroup through a D-Link DI 624c router. All was
> >> >just
> >> > fine untill about 2 weeks ago when one machine suddenly stopped being able
> >> > to
> >> > access the other in the workgroup. The WAN access never changed and it
> >> > works
> >> > fine.
> >> > I have been through every diag. tool and technique I can find and
> >> > everything
> >> > reports back that I should not be having this problem, however I am. The
> >> > only flaw I can find is when I use the Net View command. It searches for
> >> > a
> >> > while and then reports back with a 121 error (semaphore). Anybody have a
> >> > clue for me on this one?
> >>
> >>
> >> I can't offer much help, but am intrigued that we experienced almost the
> >> exact same thing at about the same time. There are some differences: I use
> >> XP (home edition) and I use a NetGear WGR614 v4 router.
> >>
> >> I don't know if these are different: my connection to the router is cable
> >> for the desktop and wireless for two laptops; the two laptops continue to
> >> see each other but so not see the desktop, and vice versa.)
> >>
> >> I can't say I've tried every diagnostic and technique, but I did try a lot
> >> of them without luck.
> >>
> >> Could our common problem have anything to do with Window XP Security Updates
> >> that were installed about two weeks ago? (I'm far from being a technician,
> >> so I don't know if such a thing is possible.)
> >>
> >> Six security updates were downloaded and installed on my desktop machine On
> >> October 16:
> >>
> >> KB896688 (a previous attempt to download this had failed on failed on
> >> October 14)
> >> KB900725
> >> KB905749
> >> KB905414
> >> KB901017
> >> KB902400
> >>
> >> Did you install one or more of these just before you lost your workgroup
> >> access?
> >>
> >>

> >I Thought that same thing at first about the Windows updates so I backed them
> >all out and uninstalled and reinstalled Service Pac 2 all to no avail. Both
> >my machines are hardwired to the router. I have uninstalled and reinstalled
> >the network card with a new set of drivers downloaded from Dell, updated the
> >firmware on the router, and said a novena to the god of Windows, and worked
> >my way through PChucks sheets and nothing works. What I do know is something
> >keeps resetting my node to unknown from Hybrid in my resistry and the Net
> >commands show the machine is not part of the workgroup.
> >
> >I continue to suspect it was something in the updates but I am baffled why
> >it only effected that one machine. I have installed all the updates on the
> >other machine and it still works like a charm.
> >
> >If I stumble on the answer, I will be sure to post it here.

>
> Having worked your way thru PChucks sheets, did you run "browstat status" and
> "ipconfig /all" from each computer? Try and diagnose the problem, and help
> others to help you. If you're Catholic, maybe a novena will help you. I'm
> Methodist, so a casserole might help me. ;-)
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>

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  #12  
Old 01-05-2006, 04:02 AM
Chuck
 
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Default Re: Cannot access workgroup

On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:50:09 -0800, "greyboomer"
<greyboomer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 00:44:07 -0800, "greyboomer"
>> <greyboomer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"Joseph Carrier" wrote:
>> >

>>
>> >> "greyboomer" <greyboomer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:2343F314-CB65-47FB-90E7-9299A0BFCBE0@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have a 2 computer workgroup through a D-Link DI 624c router. All was
>> >> >just
>> >> > fine untill about 2 weeks ago when one machine suddenly stopped being able
>> >> > to
>> >> > access the other in the workgroup. The WAN access never changed and it
>> >> > works
>> >> > fine.
>> >> > I have been through every diag. tool and technique I can find and
>> >> > everything
>> >> > reports back that I should not be having this problem, however I am. The
>> >> > only flaw I can find is when I use the Net View command. It searches for
>> >> > a
>> >> > while and then reports back with a 121 error (semaphore). Anybody have a
>> >> > clue for me on this one?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I can't offer much help, but am intrigued that we experienced almost the
>> >> exact same thing at about the same time. There are some differences: I use
>> >> XP (home edition) and I use a NetGear WGR614 v4 router.
>> >>
>> >> I don't know if these are different: my connection to the router is cable
>> >> for the desktop and wireless for two laptops; the two laptops continue to
>> >> see each other but so not see the desktop, and vice versa.)
>> >>
>> >> I can't say I've tried every diagnostic and technique, but I did try a lot
>> >> of them without luck.
>> >>
>> >> Could our common problem have anything to do with Window XP Security Updates
>> >> that were installed about two weeks ago? (I'm far from being a technician,
>> >> so I don't know if such a thing is possible.)
>> >>
>> >> Six security updates were downloaded and installed on my desktop machine On
>> >> October 16:
>> >>
>> >> KB896688 (a previous attempt to download this had failed on failed on
>> >> October 14)
>> >> KB900725
>> >> KB905749
>> >> KB905414
>> >> KB901017
>> >> KB902400
>> >>
>> >> Did you install one or more of these just before you lost your workgroup
>> >> access?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >I Thought that same thing at first about the Windows updates so I backed them
>> >all out and uninstalled and reinstalled Service Pac 2 all to no avail. Both
>> >my machines are hardwired to the router. I have uninstalled and reinstalled
>> >the network card with a new set of drivers downloaded from Dell, updated the
>> >firmware on the router, and said a novena to the god of Windows, and worked
>> >my way through PChucks sheets and nothing works. What I do know is something
>> >keeps resetting my node to unknown from Hybrid in my resistry and the Net
>> >commands show the machine is not part of the workgroup.
>> >
>> >I continue to suspect it was something in the updates but I am baffled why
>> >it only effected that one machine. I have installed all the updates on the
>> >other machine and it still works like a charm.
>> >
>> >If I stumble on the answer, I will be sure to post it here.

>>
>> Having worked your way thru PChucks sheets, did you run "browstat status" and
>> "ipconfig /all" from each computer? Try and diagnose the problem, and help
>> others to help you. If you're Catholic, maybe a novena will help you. I'm
>> Methodist, so a casserole might help me. ;-)


>Yes, I have run IPConfig and Browstat sta on both machines, and I have run
>cdiag but it's not putting the output into a notepad file for some reason so
>I have not been able to post it here.
>
>Browstat Sta on the machine which has unrestriced workgroup access says the
>master browser is running on the other machine. Browstat sta on the second
>machine show master browser problem and resorts to the back-up browser.
>
>I am not particulary good at DOS code so I really don't know for sure how to
>get those exact ourputs into a notepad file for posting here.
>
>The only thing different other than IPaddress on the IPCONFIG output is the
>node type, Hybrid on the good machine and unknown on the bad one. Also the
>bad one is showing a shared internet connection on the Network Connections
>page. The good machine is not. My Lan connects to the internet through
>D-Link 624c (firmware updated) via a Speedstream 5100 DLS modem, all hard
>wire.
>
>Additionally, I have reset winsock and TCP/IP on the bad machine.
>
>Greenbean or Tuna & potato chip casserole?


So whadda wanna do? Maybe you post the complete and unedited output "browstat
status" and "ipconfig /all" from each computer, as a start? Just maybe there's
something in there that you didn't see? Better than me trying to read your
mind.

Or you could post the CDiag code that you tried to run.

And either casserole sounds scrumptious. :-)

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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  #13  
Old 01-05-2006, 04:02 AM
greyboomer
 
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Default Re: Cannot access workgroup

This is the cdiag code I ran:

Start CDiag Base Code@echo offset FullTarget1=bob 192.168.0.150 set
FullTarget2= gsb 192.168.0.151 set FullTarget3=set FullTarget4=set
FullTargets=%FullTarget1% %FullTarget2% %FullTarget3% %FullTarget4%set
FullTargets=%FullTargets% 127.0.0.1set PingTargets=www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32
Set Version=V1.33@echo CDiagnosis %Version% >c:\cdiag.txt@echo Start
diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt@echo
Enumerate Shares >>c:\cdiag.txt@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txtnet share
>>c:\cdiag.txt@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt@echo Adhoc Browser View
>>c:\cdiag.txt@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txtnet view >>c:\cdiag.txt@echo.
>>c:\cdiag.txt@echo Full Targets %FullTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txtfor %%a in

(%FullTargets%) do (@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt@echo Target %%a
>>c:\cdiag.txt@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt@echo "%computername% ping %%a"
>>c:\cdiag.txt@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txtping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt@echo.
>>c:\cdiag.txt@echo "%computername% net view %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt@echo.
>>c:\cdiag.txtnet view %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt)@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt@echo Ping

Targets %PingTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txtfor %%a in (%PingTargets%) do (@echo.
>>c:\cdiag.txt@echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt@echo

"%computername% ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txtping %%a
>>c:\cdiag.txt)@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt@echo End diagnosis for %computername%
>>c:\cdiag.txtnotepad c:\cdiag.txt:EOF


The machine which has workgroup access is bob, the bad machine is gsb.

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:50:09 -0800, "greyboomer"
> <greyboomer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 00:44:07 -0800, "greyboomer"
> >> <greyboomer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Joseph Carrier" wrote:
> >> >
> >>
> >> >> "greyboomer" <greyboomer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:2343F314-CB65-47FB-90E7-9299A0BFCBE0@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I have a 2 computer workgroup through a D-Link DI 624c router. All was
> >> >> >just
> >> >> > fine untill about 2 weeks ago when one machine suddenly stopped being able
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > access the other in the workgroup. The WAN access never changed and it
> >> >> > works
> >> >> > fine.
> >> >> > I have been through every diag. tool and technique I can find and
> >> >> > everything
> >> >> > reports back that I should not be having this problem, however I am. The
> >> >> > only flaw I can find is when I use the Net View command. It searches for
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > while and then reports back with a 121 error (semaphore). Anybody have a
> >> >> > clue for me on this one?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I can't offer much help, but am intrigued that we experienced almost the
> >> >> exact same thing at about the same time. There are some differences: I use
> >> >> XP (home edition) and I use a NetGear WGR614 v4 router.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't know if these are different: my connection to the router is cable
> >> >> for the desktop and wireless for two laptops; the two laptops continue to
> >> >> see each other but so not see the desktop, and vice versa.)
> >> >>
> >> >> I can't say I've tried every diagnostic and technique, but I did try a lot
> >> >> of them without luck.
> >> >>
> >> >> Could our common problem have anything to do with Window XP Security Updates
> >> >> that were installed about two weeks ago? (I'm far from being a technician,
> >> >> so I don't know if such a thing is possible.)
> >> >>
> >> >> Six security updates were downloaded and installed on my desktop machine On
> >> >> October 16:
> >> >>
> >> >> KB896688 (a previous attempt to download this had failed on failed on
> >> >> October 14)
> >> >> KB900725
> >> >> KB905749
> >> >> KB905414
> >> >> KB901017
> >> >> KB902400
> >> >>
> >> >> Did you install one or more of these just before you lost your workgroup
> >> >> access?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >I Thought that same thing at first about the Windows updates so I backed them
> >> >all out and uninstalled and reinstalled Service Pac 2 all to no avail. Both
> >> >my machines are hardwired to the router. I have uninstalled and reinstalled
> >> >the network card with a new set of drivers downloaded from Dell, updated the
> >> >firmware on the router, and said a novena to the god of Windows, and worked
> >> >my way through PChucks sheets and nothing works. What I do know is something
> >> >keeps resetting my node to unknown from Hybrid in my resistry and the Net
> >> >commands show the machine is not part of the workgroup.
> >> >
> >> >I continue to suspect it was something in the updates but I am baffled why
> >> >it only effected that one machine. I have installed all the updates on the
> >> >other machine and it still works like a charm.
> >> >
> >> >If I stumble on the answer, I will be sure to post it here.
> >>
> >> Having worked your way thru PChucks sheets, did you run "browstat status" and
> >> "ipconfig /all" from each computer? Try and diagnose the problem, and help
> >> others to help you. If you're Catholic, maybe a novena will help you. I'm
> >> Methodist, so a casserole might help me. ;-)

>
> >Yes, I have run IPConfig and Browstat sta on both machines, and I have run
> >cdiag but it's not putting the output into a notepad file for some reason so
> >I have not been able to post it here.
> >
> >Browstat Sta on the machine which has unrestriced workgroup access says the
> >master browser is running on the other machine. Browstat sta on the second
> >machine show master browser problem and resorts to the back-up browser.
> >
> >I am not particulary good at DOS code so I really don't know for sure how to
> >get those exact ourputs into a notepad file for posting here.
> >
> >The only thing different other than IPaddress on the IPCONFIG output is the
> >node type, Hybrid on the good machine and unknown on the bad one. Also the
> >bad one is showing a shared internet connection on the Network Connections
> >page. The good machine is not. My Lan connects to the internet through
> >D-Link 624c (firmware updated) via a Speedstream 5100 DLS modem, all hard
> >wire.
> >
> >Additionally, I have reset winsock and TCP/IP on the bad machine.
> >
> >Greenbean or Tuna & potato chip casserole?

>
> So whadda wanna do? Maybe you post the complete and unedited output "browstat
> status" and "ipconfig /all" from each computer, as a start? Just maybe there's
> something in there that you didn't see? Better than me trying to read your
> mind.
>
> Or you could post the CDiag code that you tried to run.
>
> And either casserole sounds scrumptious. :-)
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>

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