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Old 01-05-2006, 04:01 AM
KiwiBrian
 
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If I connect 3 XP SP2 PCs to a ethernet Hub (SOHO-8 brand) and run the
Network Setup Wizard on each, giving the correct answers to the Wizard in
each case, what IP Addresses will be given to the 2 slaves and where do they
come from?
Should this be all that is necessary to get the network going, assuming the
right cables, and that the firewalls have been turned off?
Brian Tozer


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Old 01-05-2006, 04:01 AM
KiwiBrian
 
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"KiwiBrian" <briantoz@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
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> If I connect 3 XP Pro SP2 PCs to a ethernet Hub (SOHO-8 brand) and run the
> Network Setup Wizard on each, giving the correct answers to the Wizard in
> each case, what IP Addresses will be given to the 2 slaves and where do
> they come from?
> Should this be all that is necessary to get the network going, assuming
> the right cables, and that the firewalls have been turned off?
> Brian Tozer
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 04:01 AM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
 
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In article <dkoidh$oig$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>, "KiwiBrian"
<briantoz@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>If I connect 3 XP SP2 PCs to a ethernet Hub (SOHO-8 brand) and run the
>Network Setup Wizard on each, giving the correct answers to the Wizard in
>each case, what IP Addresses will be given to the 2 slaves and where do they
>come from?


Since you say there are slave computers, I assume that there's a
master computer.

If the master computer is configured for Internet Connection Sharing,
it will run a DHCP server that assigns 192.168.0.x addresses to the
slaves.

If there's no DHCP server on the network, the computers will assign
themselves automatic private IP addresses in the 169.254.x.x range.

>Should this be all that is necessary to get the network going, assuming the
>right cables, and that the firewalls have been turned off?
>Brian Tozer


I can't answer that without knowing exactly how the network is set up
and what answers you gave to the Wizard.

I recommend not turning off firewalls. If you have a third-party
firewall program (Norton, Symantec, PC-cillin, ZoneAlarm, etc), turn
it on and configure it to allow access by other computers on the local
area network. Otherwise, turn on the Windows Firewall and allow
exceptions for file and printer sharing.
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:01 AM
KiwiBrian
 
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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <maven@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:0qu0n111il50rrdh1cj5efjjj75ovbqpv6@4ax.com...
> In article <dkoidh$oig$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>, "KiwiBrian"
> <briantoz@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>>If I connect 3 XP SP2 PCs to a ethernet Hub (SOHO-8 brand) and run the
>>Network Setup Wizard on each, giving the correct answers to the Wizard in
>>each case, what IP Addresses will be given to the 2 slaves and where do
>>they
>>come from?

>
> Since you say there are slave computers, I assume that there's a
> master computer.
>
> If the master computer is configured for Internet Connection Sharing,
> it will run a DHCP server that assigns 192.168.0.x addresses to the
> slaves.
>
> If there's no DHCP server on the network, the computers will assign
> themselves automatic private IP addresses in the 169.254.x.x range.
>
>>Should this be all that is necessary to get the network going, assuming
>>the
>>right cables, and that the firewalls have been turned off?
>>Brian Tozer

>
> I can't answer that without knowing exactly how the network is set up
> and what answers you gave to the Wizard.
>
> I recommend not turning off firewalls. If you have a third-party
> firewall program (Norton, Symantec, PC-cillin, ZoneAlarm, etc), turn
> it on and configure it to allow access by other computers on the local
> area network. Otherwise, turn on the Windows Firewall and allow
> exceptions for file and printer sharing.


Thanks very much Steve.
I have never seen that info anywhere.
Now for the next step.
My Master actually has 2 slaves.
One works perfectly with internet sharing, and file sharing both ways.
The second one can see the Master, and be seen, altho sometimes there is a
15 second delay before the Master can see it.
However the main problem is that this slave cannot access the internet via
the Master, even with its Firewall turned off, and as far as I can see, set
up similarly to the good slave. I run the Wizard but to no avail.
The bad slave just says that it cannot access the internet when offline, and
when I tell it to go online it brings up the dialogue box to dial the
internet.
Hoping that you can help me with this as well.
Thanks
Brian.


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Old 01-05-2006, 04:01 AM
KiwiBrian
 
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Cancel Panic
Problem solved.........till next time....
Many thanks
Brian

"KiwiBrian" <briantoz@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
news:dkqk39$sr1$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>
> "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <maven@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:0qu0n111il50rrdh1cj5efjjj75ovbqpv6@4ax.com...
>> In article <dkoidh$oig$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>, "KiwiBrian"
>> <briantoz@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>>>If I connect 3 XP SP2 PCs to a ethernet Hub (SOHO-8 brand) and run the
>>>Network Setup Wizard on each, giving the correct answers to the Wizard in
>>>each case, what IP Addresses will be given to the 2 slaves and where do
>>>they
>>>come from?

>>
>> Since you say there are slave computers, I assume that there's a
>> master computer.
>>
>> If the master computer is configured for Internet Connection Sharing,
>> it will run a DHCP server that assigns 192.168.0.x addresses to the
>> slaves.
>>
>> If there's no DHCP server on the network, the computers will assign
>> themselves automatic private IP addresses in the 169.254.x.x range.
>>
>>>Should this be all that is necessary to get the network going, assuming
>>>the
>>>right cables, and that the firewalls have been turned off?
>>>Brian Tozer

>>
>> I can't answer that without knowing exactly how the network is set up
>> and what answers you gave to the Wizard.
>>
>> I recommend not turning off firewalls. If you have a third-party
>> firewall program (Norton, Symantec, PC-cillin, ZoneAlarm, etc), turn
>> it on and configure it to allow access by other computers on the local
>> area network. Otherwise, turn on the Windows Firewall and allow
>> exceptions for file and printer sharing.

>
> Thanks very much Steve.
> I have never seen that info anywhere.
> Now for the next step.
> My Master actually has 2 slaves.
> One works perfectly with internet sharing, and file sharing both ways.
> The second one can see the Master, and be seen, altho sometimes there is a
> 15 second delay before the Master can see it.
> However the main problem is that this slave cannot access the internet via
> the Master, even with its Firewall turned off, and as far as I can see,
> set up similarly to the good slave. I run the Wizard but to no avail.
> The bad slave just says that it cannot access the internet when offline,
> and when I tell it to go online it brings up the dialogue box to dial the
> internet.
> Hoping that you can help me with this as well.
> Thanks
> Brian.
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 04:01 AM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
 
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In article <dkqn2p$3a1$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>, "KiwiBrian"
<briantoz@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>Cancel Panic
>Problem solved.........till next time....
>Many thanks
>Brian


Good going.

Since you asked for help in this news group, please post the solution
here, too. That will help other people.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
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