SImple networking with 2 XP PCs and router

Hi,

This issue appears a lot in forums but I never seem to find the answer! I
have 2 PCs running XP, connected to Belkin 4 port router, whcih in turn
connects to cable modem for broadband internet. Both PCs can access the
internet with no problems, however, I cannot enbale file sharing between the
PCs. I have run the Networking Wizard, and set up unique names for each of
the computers, and a workgroup (the same on both PCs!). I have enbaled
sharing on relevant folders but the sharing does not work. I have tried using
ping to test basic connectivity, and this works OK from both PCs to the
router, and from PC A to PC B, but NOT from PC B to PC A. This is what I find
so wierd, and I assume is the root of my problem. My difficulty is working
out why I can ping from A to B, but not from B to A.

Any suggestions?

Thanx,

Robin

check the firewall on A to se that B is "trusted."


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm



"Robaxeman" <Robaxeman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:34744D38-D8D8-478D-AD85-C95B608EC5EF@microsoft.com...
| Hi,
|
| This issue appears a lot in forums but I never seem to
find the answer! I
| have 2 PCs running XP, connected to Belkin 4 port router,
whcih in turn
| connects to cable modem for broadband internet. Both PCs
can access the
| internet with no problems, however, I cannot enbale file
sharing between the
| PCs. I have run the Networking Wizard, and set up unique
names for each of
| the computers, and a workgroup (the same on both PCs!). I
have enbaled
| sharing on relevant folders but the sharing does not work.
I have tried using
| ping to test basic connectivity, and this works OK from
both PCs to the
| router, and from PC A to PC B, but NOT from PC B to PC A.
This is what I find
| so wierd, and I assume is the root of my problem. My
difficulty is working
| out why I can ping from A to B, but not from B to A.
|
| Any suggestions?
|
| Thanx,
|
| Robin

I am having exactly the same problem except I have three computers networked
I will call them A, B, and C. A is the host and can talk back and forth with
B no problem. C can talk to A or B with no problem, but neither A or B can
talk with C. I have set, reset, checked double checked every setting in
every area and I am at a total loss for now. Any who can help it would be
greatly appreciated. I have heard from a pretty reliable source that this is
a problem in Windows XP, but I cannot find anything in the knowledge base to
help me. Jestes

"Robaxeman" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This issue appears a lot in forums but I never seem to find the answer! I
> have 2 PCs running XP, connected to Belkin 4 port router, whcih in turn
> connects to cable modem for broadband internet. Both PCs can access the
> internet with no problems, however, I cannot enbale file sharing between the
> PCs. I have run the Networking Wizard, and set up unique names for each of
> the computers, and a workgroup (the same on both PCs!). I have enbaled
> sharing on relevant folders but the sharing does not work. I have tried using
> ping to test basic connectivity, and this works OK from both PCs to the
> router, and from PC A to PC B, but NOT from PC B to PC A. This is what I find
> so wierd, and I assume is the root of my problem. My difficulty is working
> out why I can ping from A to B, but not from B to A.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanx,
>
> Robin

On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 05:10:08 -0800, Robaxeman
<Robaxeman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>This issue appears a lot in forums but I never seem to find the answer! I
>have 2 PCs running XP, connected to Belkin 4 port router, whcih in turn
>connects to cable modem for broadband internet. Both PCs can access the
>internet with no problems, however, I cannot enbale file sharing between the
>PCs. I have run the Networking Wizard, and set up unique names for each of
>the computers, and a workgroup (the same on both PCs!). I have enbaled
>sharing on relevant folders but the sharing does not work. I have tried using
>ping to test basic connectivity, and this works OK from both PCs to the
>router, and from PC A to PC B, but NOT from PC B to PC A. This is what I find
>so wierd, and I assume is the root of my problem. My difficulty is working
>out why I can ping from A to B, but not from B to A.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanx,
>
>Robin

Robin,

Your problem is pretty common, but it can start from a number of causes.
Diagnose it, then fix it. Start with my initial troubleshooting guide.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:12:08 -0800, JEstes <JEstes@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>"Robaxeman" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This issue appears a lot in forums but I never seem to find the answer! I
>> have 2 PCs running XP, connected to Belkin 4 port router, whcih in turn
>> connects to cable modem for broadband internet. Both PCs can access the
>> internet with no problems, however, I cannot enbale file sharing between the
>> PCs. I have run the Networking Wizard, and set up unique names for each of
>> the computers, and a workgroup (the same on both PCs!). I have enbaled
>> sharing on relevant folders but the sharing does not work. I have tried using
>> ping to test basic connectivity, and this works OK from both PCs to the
>> router, and from PC A to PC B, but NOT from PC B to PC A. This is what I find
>> so wierd, and I assume is the root of my problem. My difficulty is working
>> out why I can ping from A to B, but not from B to A.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanx,
>>
>> Robin

>I am having exactly the same problem except I have three computers networked
>I will call them A, B, and C. A is the host and can talk back and forth with
>B no problem. C can talk to A or B with no problem, but neither A or B can
>talk with C. I have set, reset, checked double checked every setting in
>every area and I am at a total loss for now. Any who can help it would be
>greatly appreciated. I have heard from a pretty reliable source that this is
>a problem in Windows XP, but I cannot find anything in the knowledge base to
>help me. Jestes

Jestes,

Your problem may appear to be similar in nature to Robin's. In reality, these
problems though similar can have many different causes. It would be to your
advantage, seriously, to start a new thread, and describe the problem on its
own.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#Hijacking>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...html#Hijacking

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

Jim,

Thanks for the suggestion, but... how do I do that? I have fired up the
Firewall manager and I don;t see an option to do this. I see three tabs:
General - switches the firewall on, off or ebales/disables exceptions.
Exceptions - allows specific applications access
Advanced - covers NW COnnections sewttings, Security Logging, ICMP and
Default Settings.

I can't see anywhere how I can make 'B' trusted, or even see 'B'.

Thanks for your help.

Robin

"Jim Macklin" wrote:

> check the firewall on A to se that B is "trusted."
>
>
> --
> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
> some support
> http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
>
>
>
> "Robaxeman" <Robaxeman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> news:34744D38-D8D8-478D-AD85-C95B608EC5EF@microsoft.com...
> | Hi,
> |
> | This issue appears a lot in forums but I never seem to
> find the answer! I
> | have 2 PCs running XP, connected to Belkin 4 port router,
> whcih in turn
> | connects to cable modem for broadband internet. Both PCs
> can access the
> | internet with no problems, however, I cannot enbale file
> sharing between the
> | PCs. I have run the Networking Wizard, and set up unique
> names for each of
> | the computers, and a workgroup (the same on both PCs!). I
> have enbaled
> | sharing on relevant folders but the sharing does not work.
> I have tried using
> | ping to test basic connectivity, and this works OK from
> both PCs to the
> | router, and from PC A to PC B, but NOT from PC B to PC A.
> This is what I find
> | so wierd, and I assume is the root of my problem. My
> difficulty is working
> | out why I can ping from A to B, but not from B to A.
> |
> | Any suggestions?
> |
> | Thanx,
> |
> | Robin
>
>
>

trusted = exception...


"Robaxeman" <Robaxeman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:32491C90-914E-4F03-B2AC-EDCDEFC646DC@microsoft.com...
| Jim,
|
| Thanks for the suggestion, but... how do I do that? I have
fired up the
| Firewall manager and I don;t see an option to do this. I
see three tabs:
| General - switches the firewall on, off or ebales/disables
exceptions.
| Exceptions - allows specific applications access
| Advanced - covers NW COnnections sewttings, Security
Logging, ICMP and
| Default Settings.
|
| I can't see anywhere how I can make 'B' trusted, or even
see 'B'.
|
| Thanks for your help.
|
| Robin
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote:
|
| > check the firewall on A to se that B is "trusted."
| >
| >
| > --
| > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| > some support
| > http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
| >
| >
| >
| > "Robaxeman" <Robaxeman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in
| > message
| >
news:34744D38-D8D8-478D-AD85-C95B608EC5EF@microsoft.com...
| > | Hi,
| > |
| > | This issue appears a lot in forums but I never seem to
| > find the answer! I
| > | have 2 PCs running XP, connected to Belkin 4 port
router,
| > whcih in turn
| > | connects to cable modem for broadband internet. Both
PCs
| > can access the
| > | internet with no problems, however, I cannot enbale
file
| > sharing between the
| > | PCs. I have run the Networking Wizard, and set up
unique
| > names for each of
| > | the computers, and a workgroup (the same on both
PCs!). I
| > have enbaled
| > | sharing on relevant folders but the sharing does not
work.
| > I have tried using
| > | ping to test basic connectivity, and this works OK
from
| > both PCs to the
| > | router, and from PC A to PC B, but NOT from PC B to PC
A.
| > This is what I find
| > | so wierd, and I assume is the root of my problem. My
| > difficulty is working
| > | out why I can ping from A to B, but not from B to A.
| > |
| > | Any suggestions?
| > |
| > | Thanx,
| > |
| > | Robin
| >
| >
| >

Jim,

Apologies if appear dumb, but.. the exceptions tab (that I can see) allows
exceptions for specific applications - I can't see anything that would allow
me to configure a PC a an exception.

Note, I am using XP Home Edition, SP2.

Thanx,

Robin

"Jim Macklin" wrote:

> trusted = exception...
>
>
> "Robaxeman" <Robaxeman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> news:32491C90-914E-4F03-B2AC-EDCDEFC646DC@microsoft.com...
> | Jim,
> |
> | Thanks for the suggestion, but... how do I do that? I have
> fired up the
> | Firewall manager and I don;t see an option to do this. I
> see three tabs:
> | General - switches the firewall on, off or ebales/disables
> exceptions.
> | Exceptions - allows specific applications access
> | Advanced - covers NW COnnections sewttings, Security
> Logging, ICMP and
> | Default Settings.
> |
> | I can't see anywhere how I can make 'B' trusted, or even
> see 'B'.
> |
> | Thanks for your help.
> |
> | Robin
> |
> | "Jim Macklin" wrote:
> |
> | > check the firewall on A to se that B is "trusted."
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> | > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
> | > some support
> | > http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > "Robaxeman" <Robaxeman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> in
> | > message
> | >
> news:34744D38-D8D8-478D-AD85-C95B608EC5EF@microsoft.com...
> | > | Hi,
> | > |
> | > | This issue appears a lot in forums but I never seem to
> | > find the answer! I
> | > | have 2 PCs running XP, connected to Belkin 4 port
> router,
> | > whcih in turn
> | > | connects to cable modem for broadband internet. Both
> PCs
> | > can access the
> | > | internet with no problems, however, I cannot enbale
> file
> | > sharing between the
> | > | PCs. I have run the Networking Wizard, and set up
> unique
> | > names for each of
> | > | the computers, and a workgroup (the same on both
> PCs!). I
> | > have enbaled
> | > | sharing on relevant folders but the sharing does not
> work.
> | > I have tried using
> | > | ping to test basic connectivity, and this works OK
> from
> | > both PCs to the
> | > | router, and from PC A to PC B, but NOT from PC B to PC
> A.
> | > This is what I find
> | > | so wierd, and I assume is the root of my problem. My
> | > difficulty is working
> | > | out why I can ping from A to B, but not from B to A.
> | > |
> | > | Any suggestions?
> | > |
> | > | Thanx,
> | > |
> | > | Robin
> | >
> | >
> | >
>
>
>

Exception for the File and Printer Sharing for MS Networks



I prefer and use the free Zone Alarm firwall since it works on in and outbound traffic and is easier to configure www.zonelabs.com

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm





"Robaxeman" <Robaxeman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:CCEFC10C-7FA2-4D14-B74D-0DE08A62F4E9@microsoft.com...
| Jim,
|
| Apologies if appear dumb, but.. the exceptions tab (that I
can see) allows
| exceptions for specific applications - I can't see
anything that would allow
| me to configure a PC a an exception.
|
| Note, I am using XP Home Edition, SP2.
|
| Thanx,
|
| Robin
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote:
|
| > trusted = exception...
| >
| >
| > "Robaxeman" <Robaxeman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in
| > message
| >
news:32491C90-914E-4F03-B2AC-EDCDEFC646DC@microsoft.com...
| > | Jim,
| > |
| > | Thanks for the suggestion, but... how do I do that? I
have
| > fired up the
| > | Firewall manager and I don;t see an option to do this.
I
| > see three tabs:
| > | General - switches the firewall on, off or
ebales/disables
| > exceptions.
| > | Exceptions - allows specific applications access
| > | Advanced - covers NW COnnections sewttings, Security
| > Logging, ICMP and
| > | Default Settings.
| > |
| > | I can't see anywhere how I can make 'B' trusted, or
even
| > see 'B'.
| > |
| > | Thanks for your help.
| > |
| > | Robin
| > |
| > | "Jim Macklin" wrote:
| > |
| > | > check the firewall on A to se that B is "trusted."
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > The people think the Constitution protects their
rights;
| > | > But government sees it as an obstacle to be
overcome.
| > | > some support
| > | > http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Robaxeman" <Robaxeman@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote
| > in
| > | > message
| > | >
| >
news:34744D38-D8D8-478D-AD85-C95B608EC5EF@microsoft.com...
| > | > | Hi,
| > | > |
| > | > | This issue appears a lot in forums but I never
seem to
| > | > find the answer! I
| > | > | have 2 PCs running XP, connected to Belkin 4 port
| > router,
| > | > whcih in turn
| > | > | connects to cable modem for broadband internet.
Both
| > PCs
| > | > can access the
| > | > | internet with no problems, however, I cannot
enbale
| > file
| > | > sharing between the
| > | > | PCs. I have run the Networking Wizard, and set up
| > unique
| > | > names for each of
| > | > | the computers, and a workgroup (the same on both
| > PCs!). I
| > | > have enbaled
| > | > | sharing on relevant folders but the sharing does
not
| > work.
| > | > I have tried using
| > | > | ping to test basic connectivity, and this works OK
| > from
| > | > both PCs to the
| > | > | router, and from PC A to PC B, but NOT from PC B
to PC
| > A.
| > | > This is what I find
| > | > | so wierd, and I assume is the root of my problem.
My
| > | > difficulty is working
| > | > | out why I can ping from A to B, but not from B to
A.
| > | > |
| > | > | Any suggestions?
| > | > |
| > | > | Thanx,
| > | > |
| > | > | Robin
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >