On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:29:01 -0800, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:19:01 -0600, HLAMUTHNOSPAM@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:14:02 -0800, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:25:31 -0600, HLAMUTHNOSPAM@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:50:50 -0800, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:22:44 -0600, HLAMUTHNOSPAM@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>This is a variation of what has been posted. I have run into a bit of
>>>>>>a wall....maybe this is a pun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Configured a wireless router to host three hard connects and a
>>>>>>wireless laptop. No internet connection yet. Then configured router as
>>>>>>a hub to use ICS via a server PC. All PCs show up in the windows
>>>>>>explorer and all can be pinged...except that one cannot open files on
>>>>>>the ICS pc. The ICS works for all but the one that cannot get access,
>>>>>>even though the ISC pc can be pinged. The message that comes up is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Access Permissions?
>>>>>>Logon failure. The user has not been granted the requested longon type
>>>>>>at this computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Only one Master Browser is running and the reg entry for restrict
>>>>>>anonymous is zero. Windows firewall is off and Zone Alarm allows all
>>>>>>IP addresses access. ICS works except for the one computer that cannot
>>>>>>access the server PC. I have checked all permissions and sharing etc
>>>>>>and simply cannot find the expection for this single PC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any suggestions??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Henry
>>>>>
>>>>>Henry,
>>>>>
>>>>>This is a well known issue. The problem is generally in the server (ICS
>>>>>computer, in your case), and is related to the account that you're trying to use
>>>>>for access (and to Guest, if you're using SFS).
>>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help>
>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help
>>>
>>>>I am sure you are on the right track with my problem, but when I tried
>>>>to access the user accounts through control panel/admin tools, the
>>>>item for accounts and users under systems was not there. Couldn't get
>>>>the command line to work...if fact, I wasn't sure what I was
>>>>authenticating or enabling. Could you shed more light on this user
>>>>name, access, and authorization in a network?
>>>>
>>>>Appreciate your help...as always, you are on top of the issues.
>>>>
>>>>Henry
>>>
>>>Henry,
>>>
>>>Thanks for your kind words. Did you look for Administrative Tools - Computer
>>>Management? Then in the hierarchical menu (Computer Management window on the
>>>left), you should have System Tools - Local Users and Groups - Users.
>>>
>>>When you tried the command line utility, what exact error did you get?
>
>>When I went in to enable the ICS, I got the old problem back. Went
>>through the whole permissions and active:yes enablement and still
>>won't let me see the server (ICS) PC. Now neither of the other two
>>computers can see the ICS files, though they can ping it.
>>
>>If I read your article right, the net access is via the Guest
>>accounts. I have set all guest accounts Active:yes. On one machine, it
>>could not find the administrator's name, so I changed it to a simpler
>>name and rebooted. In Control Panel/Users, this new name shows up but
>>the Net User command line still shows the old name, which it claims it
>>cannot find to set active:yes.
>>
>>I am clearly missing somethig. No firewall problems that I have found.
>>
>>What, Obe Wan, am I doing wrong??
>>
>>Henry
>>
>Henry,
>
>With Simple File Sharing, the Guest account is the only one relevant to network
>access. Please don't go renaming accounts - all that will do is cause
>confusion, as you now see.
>
>It sounds to me like you now have a browser problem. Though from your previous
>post, I also suspect that you have a malware problem, so maybe that needs to be
>dealt with first. One issue at a time please.


OK, the pc is clean. I have reverted to hub mode with no ICS. Still
the same issue. Now, however, my Firewall settings are strange. The
control panel/firewall settings are greyed out. Since all three PCs
have the same configuration, this one is different and this is also
the one that another PC can ping but not access....original problem.
Before, when I had the ICS PC configured for ICS, I could never really
access the Firewall without a message asking me to enable
ICS/Firewall. This was on both the dial up client...the actual ICS
access to the internet as well as on the network NIC going to the hub.
Something is definitely amiss on this system.

Any ideas what may be happening? I read a cryptic note on setting up
the network and ICS that said if the Firewall settings were greyed
out, then something was screwed up...no further instructions or
insights.

Any pointers on your web site that may be relevant...I am not sure
what to even call this problem.

Henry

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:35:04 -0600, HLAMUTHNOSPAM@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:29:01 -0800, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:19:01 -0600, HLAMUTHNOSPAM@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:14:02 -0800, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:25:31 -0600, HLAMUTHNOSPAM@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:50:50 -0800, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:22:44 -0600, HLAMUTHNOSPAM@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This is a variation of what has been posted. I have run into a bit of
>>>>>>>a wall....maybe this is a pun.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Configured a wireless router to host three hard connects and a
>>>>>>>wireless laptop. No internet connection yet. Then configured router as
>>>>>>>a hub to use ICS via a server PC. All PCs show up in the windows
>>>>>>>explorer and all can be pinged...except that one cannot open files on
>>>>>>>the ICS pc. The ICS works for all but the one that cannot get access,
>>>>>>>even though the ISC pc can be pinged. The message that comes up is:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Access Permissions?
>>>>>>>Logon failure. The user has not been granted the requested longon type
>>>>>>>at this computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Only one Master Browser is running and the reg entry for restrict
>>>>>>>anonymous is zero. Windows firewall is off and Zone Alarm allows all
>>>>>>>IP addresses access. ICS works except for the one computer that cannot
>>>>>>>access the server PC. I have checked all permissions and sharing etc
>>>>>>>and simply cannot find the expection for this single PC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any suggestions??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Henry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Henry,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is a well known issue. The problem is generally in the server (ICS
>>>>>>computer, in your case), and is related to the account that you're trying to use
>>>>>>for access (and to Guest, if you're using SFS).
>>>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help>
>>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help
>>>>
>>>>>I am sure you are on the right track with my problem, but when I tried
>>>>>to access the user accounts through control panel/admin tools, the
>>>>>item for accounts and users under systems was not there. Couldn't get
>>>>>the command line to work...if fact, I wasn't sure what I was
>>>>>authenticating or enabling. Could you shed more light on this user
>>>>>name, access, and authorization in a network?
>>>>>
>>>>>Appreciate your help...as always, you are on top of the issues.
>>>>>
>>>>>Henry
>>>>
>>>>Henry,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your kind words. Did you look for Administrative Tools - Computer
>>>>Management? Then in the hierarchical menu (Computer Management window on the
>>>>left), you should have System Tools - Local Users and Groups - Users.
>>>>
>>>>When you tried the command line utility, what exact error did you get?
>>
>>>When I went in to enable the ICS, I got the old problem back. Went
>>>through the whole permissions and active:yes enablement and still
>>>won't let me see the server (ICS) PC. Now neither of the other two
>>>computers can see the ICS files, though they can ping it.
>>>
>>>If I read your article right, the net access is via the Guest
>>>accounts. I have set all guest accounts Active:yes. On one machine, it
>>>could not find the administrator's name, so I changed it to a simpler
>>>name and rebooted. In Control Panel/Users, this new name shows up but
>>>the Net User command line still shows the old name, which it claims it
>>>cannot find to set active:yes.
>>>
>>>I am clearly missing somethig. No firewall problems that I have found.
>>>
>>>What, Obe Wan, am I doing wrong??
>>>
>>>Henry
>>>
>>Henry,
>>
>>With Simple File Sharing, the Guest account is the only one relevant to network
>>access. Please don't go renaming accounts - all that will do is cause
>>confusion, as you now see.
>>
>>It sounds to me like you now have a browser problem. Though from your previous
>>post, I also suspect that you have a malware problem, so maybe that needs to be
>>dealt with first. One issue at a time please.
>
>
>OK, the pc is clean. I have reverted to hub mode with no ICS. Still
>the same issue. Now, however, my Firewall settings are strange. The
>control panel/firewall settings are greyed out. Since all three PCs
>have the same configuration, this one is different and this is also
>the one that another PC can ping but not access....original problem.
>Before, when I had the ICS PC configured for ICS, I could never really
>access the Firewall without a message asking me to enable
>ICS/Firewall. This was on both the dial up client...the actual ICS
>access to the internet as well as on the network NIC going to the hub.
>Something is definitely amiss on this system.
>
>Any ideas what may be happening? I read a cryptic note on setting up
>the network and ICS that said if the Firewall settings were greyed
>out, then something was screwed up...no further instructions or
>insights.
>
>Any pointers on your web site that may be relevant...I am not sure
>what to even call this problem.
>
>Henry

Henry,

I would start from the bottom up.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ghborhood.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

JUst an update. I have started the "bottom up" diagnostics. No Winsock
or IP errors to correct. Replaced the new router/hub with the old
one...no improvement, same problem. Have uninstalled and re-installed
NICs and modem and as much software as seems relevant. No joy.

I am proceeding up the list of diagnostics. However, other issues seem
to point to a failing motherboard...so I may scrap this effort and get
a new PC. I will let you know where things stand on Monday.

Thanks for your help.

Henry

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:04:43 -0800, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:35:04 -0600, HLAMUTHNOSPAM@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:29:01 -0800, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:19:01 -0600, HLAMUTHNOSPAM@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:14:02 -0800, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:25:31 -0600, HLAMUTHNOSPAM@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:50:50 -0800, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:22:44 -0600, HLAMUTHNOSPAM@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This is a variation of what has been posted. I have run into a bit of
>>>>>>>>a wall....maybe this is a pun.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Configured a wireless router to host three hard connects and a
>>>>>>>>wireless laptop. No internet connection yet. Then configured router as
>>>>>>>>a hub to use ICS via a server PC. All PCs show up in the windows
>>>>>>>>explorer and all can be pinged...except that one cannot open files on
>>>>>>>>the ICS pc. The ICS works for all but the one that cannot get access,
>>>>>>>>even though the ISC pc can be pinged. The message that comes up is:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Access Permissions?
>>>>>>>>Logon failure. The user has not been granted the requested longon type
>>>>>>>>at this computer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Only one Master Browser is running and the reg entry for restrict
>>>>>>>>anonymous is zero. Windows firewall is off and Zone Alarm allows all
>>>>>>>>IP addresses access. ICS works except for the one computer that cannot
>>>>>>>>access the server PC. I have checked all permissions and sharing etc
>>>>>>>>and simply cannot find the expection for this single PC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Any suggestions??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Henry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Henry,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This is a well known issue. The problem is generally in the server (ICS
>>>>>>>computer, in your case), and is related to the account that you're trying to use
>>>>>>>for access (and to Guest, if you're using SFS).
>>>>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help>
>>>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am sure you are on the right track with my problem, but when I tried
>>>>>>to access the user accounts through control panel/admin tools, the
>>>>>>item for accounts and users under systems was not there. Couldn't get
>>>>>>the command line to work...if fact, I wasn't sure what I was
>>>>>>authenticating or enabling. Could you shed more light on this user
>>>>>>name, access, and authorization in a network?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Appreciate your help...as always, you are on top of the issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Henry
>>>>>
>>>>>Henry,
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for your kind words. Did you look for Administrative Tools - Computer
>>>>>Management? Then in the hierarchical menu (Computer Management window on the
>>>>>left), you should have System Tools - Local Users and Groups - Users.
>>>>>
>>>>>When you tried the command line utility, what exact error did you get?
>>>
>>>>When I went in to enable the ICS, I got the old problem back. Went
>>>>through the whole permissions and active:yes enablement and still
>>>>won't let me see the server (ICS) PC. Now neither of the other two
>>>>computers can see the ICS files, though they can ping it.
>>>>
>>>>If I read your article right, the net access is via the Guest
>>>>accounts. I have set all guest accounts Active:yes. On one machine, it
>>>>could not find the administrator's name, so I changed it to a simpler
>>>>name and rebooted. In Control Panel/Users, this new name shows up but
>>>>the Net User command line still shows the old name, which it claims it
>>>>cannot find to set active:yes.
>>>>
>>>>I am clearly missing somethig. No firewall problems that I have found.
>>>>
>>>>What, Obe Wan, am I doing wrong??
>>>>
>>>>Henry
>>>>
>>>Henry,
>>>
>>>With Simple File Sharing, the Guest account is the only one relevant to network
>>>access. Please don't go renaming accounts - all that will do is cause
>>>confusion, as you now see.
>>>
>>>It sounds to me like you now have a browser problem. Though from your previous
>>>post, I also suspect that you have a malware problem, so maybe that needs to be
>>>dealt with first. One issue at a time please.
>>
>>
>>OK, the pc is clean. I have reverted to hub mode with no ICS. Still
>>the same issue. Now, however, my Firewall settings are strange. The
>>control panel/firewall settings are greyed out. Since all three PCs
>>have the same configuration, this one is different and this is also
>>the one that another PC can ping but not access....original problem.
>>Before, when I had the ICS PC configured for ICS, I could never really
>>access the Firewall without a message asking me to enable
>>ICS/Firewall. This was on both the dial up client...the actual ICS
>>access to the internet as well as on the network NIC going to the hub.
>>Something is definitely amiss on this system.
>>
>>Any ideas what may be happening? I read a cryptic note on setting up
>>the network and ICS that said if the Firewall settings were greyed
>>out, then something was screwed up...no further instructions or
>>insights.
>>
>>Any pointers on your web site that may be relevant...I am not sure
>>what to even call this problem.
>>
>>Henry
>
>Henry,
>
>I would start from the bottom up.
><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html>
>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ghborhood.html

Oh, just an after thought. I have disabled ICS and am just working on
the hub configuration. I have set all static IPs. I have no gateway or
DNS addresses in the system...all three PCs should be equal in the
eyes of the network, but still there is one...the former ICS
server...that they cannot access...same permissions issue. I can ping
all systems but not access the files even though file sharing is
enabled, no firewalls are in place, and guest accounts are enabled and
web active.

Have a nice week end.

Henry


On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:04:43 -0800, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:35:04 -0600, HLAMUTHNOSPAM@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:29:01 -0800, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:19:01 -0600, HLAMUTHNOSPAM@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:14:02 -0800, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:25:31 -0600, HLAMUTHNOSPAM@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:50:50 -0800, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:22:44 -0600, HLAMUTHNOSPAM@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This is a variation of what has been posted. I have run into a bit of
>>>>>>>>a wall....maybe this is a pun.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Configured a wireless router to host three hard connects and a
>>>>>>>>wireless laptop. No internet connection yet. Then configured router as
>>>>>>>>a hub to use ICS via a server PC. All PCs show up in the windows
>>>>>>>>explorer and all can be pinged...except that one cannot open files on
>>>>>>>>the ICS pc. The ICS works for all but the one that cannot get access,
>>>>>>>>even though the ISC pc can be pinged. The message that comes up is:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Access Permissions?
>>>>>>>>Logon failure. The user has not been granted the requested longon type
>>>>>>>>at this computer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Only one Master Browser is running and the reg entry for restrict
>>>>>>>>anonymous is zero. Windows firewall is off and Zone Alarm allows all
>>>>>>>>IP addresses access. ICS works except for the one computer that cannot
>>>>>>>>access the server PC. I have checked all permissions and sharing etc
>>>>>>>>and simply cannot find the expection for this single PC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Any suggestions??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Henry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Henry,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This is a well known issue. The problem is generally in the server (ICS
>>>>>>>computer, in your case), and is related to the account that you're trying to use
>>>>>>>for access (and to Guest, if you're using SFS).
>>>>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help>
>>>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am sure you are on the right track with my problem, but when I tried
>>>>>>to access the user accounts through control panel/admin tools, the
>>>>>>item for accounts and users under systems was not there. Couldn't get
>>>>>>the command line to work...if fact, I wasn't sure what I was
>>>>>>authenticating or enabling. Could you shed more light on this user
>>>>>>name, access, and authorization in a network?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Appreciate your help...as always, you are on top of the issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Henry
>>>>>
>>>>>Henry,
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for your kind words. Did you look for Administrative Tools - Computer
>>>>>Management? Then in the hierarchical menu (Computer Management window on the
>>>>>left), you should have System Tools - Local Users and Groups - Users.
>>>>>
>>>>>When you tried the command line utility, what exact error did you get?
>>>
>>>>When I went in to enable the ICS, I got the old problem back. Went
>>>>through the whole permissions and active:yes enablement and still
>>>>won't let me see the server (ICS) PC. Now neither of the other two
>>>>computers can see the ICS files, though they can ping it.
>>>>
>>>>If I read your article right, the net access is via the Guest
>>>>accounts. I have set all guest accounts Active:yes. On one machine, it
>>>>could not find the administrator's name, so I changed it to a simpler
>>>>name and rebooted. In Control Panel/Users, this new name shows up but
>>>>the Net User command line still shows the old name, which it claims it
>>>>cannot find to set active:yes.
>>>>
>>>>I am clearly missing somethig. No firewall problems that I have found.
>>>>
>>>>What, Obe Wan, am I doing wrong??
>>>>
>>>>Henry
>>>>
>>>Henry,
>>>
>>>With Simple File Sharing, the Guest account is the only one relevant to network
>>>access. Please don't go renaming accounts - all that will do is cause
>>>confusion, as you now see.
>>>
>>>It sounds to me like you now have a browser problem. Though from your previous
>>>post, I also suspect that you have a malware problem, so maybe that needs to be
>>>dealt with first. One issue at a time please.
>>
>>
>>OK, the pc is clean. I have reverted to hub mode with no ICS. Still
>>the same issue. Now, however, my Firewall settings are strange. The
>>control panel/firewall settings are greyed out. Since all three PCs
>>have the same configuration, this one is different and this is also
>>the one that another PC can ping but not access....original problem.
>>Before, when I had the ICS PC configured for ICS, I could never really
>>access the Firewall without a message asking me to enable
>>ICS/Firewall. This was on both the dial up client...the actual ICS
>>access to the internet as well as on the network NIC going to the hub.
>>Something is definitely amiss on this system.
>>
>>Any ideas what may be happening? I read a cryptic note on setting up
>>the network and ICS that said if the Firewall settings were greyed
>>out, then something was screwed up...no further instructions or
>>insights.
>>
>>Any pointers on your web site that may be relevant...I am not sure
>>what to even call this problem.
>>
>>Henry
>
>Henry,
>
>I would start from the bottom up.
><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html>
>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ghborhood.html