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Old 01-05-2006, 04:02 AM
Danny
 
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Default Cannot View Work Group \ Network Computers

I am running windows XP media edition 2005. This computer is hard wired to a
router. I have two other wireless computers. All can access the internet.
Searched other posts and found some ideas, but done solved problem to date.

I cannot view the work group \ network from the base computer. I get the
following messsage when I try to view the workgroup: "Networkname" is not
accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource.
Contact the administrator of this server to find oiut if you have permission.
The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available.

==the remote units can see this computer in the network, but not access.
==I can ping the base unit from the other to units.
==using start\run\\"other cpu in work group name" I can access and view
via windows explorer the files on this computers.
==I have both turn off and disabled from starting up ZoneAlarm, with no luck
==I have not tried to enter the ip addresses of the remote comoputers into
ZA, but do not thing this is the issue, but will try.

=tried MS article 318030 with no luck(turning on netbios over TCP/IP and
broser service

Thanks for the help in advance!

Danny




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Old 01-05-2006, 04:02 AM
Chuck
 
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Default Re: Cannot View Work Group \ Network Computers

On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:33:39 -0800, "Danny" <Danny@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>I am running windows XP media edition 2005. This computer is hard wired to a
>router. I have two other wireless computers. All can access the internet.
>Searched other posts and found some ideas, but done solved problem to date.
>
>I cannot view the work group \ network from the base computer. I get the
>following messsage when I try to view the workgroup: "Networkname" is not
>accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource.
>Contact the administrator of this server to find oiut if you have permission.
> The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available.
>
> ==the remote units can see this computer in the network, but not access.
> ==I can ping the base unit from the other to units.
> ==using start\run\\"other cpu in work group name" I can access and view
>via windows explorer the files on this computers.
>==I have both turn off and disabled from starting up ZoneAlarm, with no luck
>==I have not tried to enter the ip addresses of the remote comoputers into
>ZA, but do not thing this is the issue, but will try.
>
>=tried MS article 318030 with no luck(turning on netbios over TCP/IP and
>broser service
>
>Thanks for the help in advance!
>
>Danny


Danny,

This is a well known problem, which can have any of several causes. Start with
my tutorial please, and provide the request diagnostic information.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html

Note ZA, even if disabled, might well be part of the problem!

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:02 AM
Danny
 
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Default Re: Cannot View Work Group \ Network Computers

Chuck,

Thanks for the quick response. I whole hardly agree, Zone Alarms has spent
much of my time over the past few years!

Here is what I found. First, it does not appear as if he Computer Broswer
Service is starting. It is set to automatic, but when I check, it has not
started. I can manually start, but it does not solve the issue.

Here is the result from browstat status after manually starting the browser:


C:\>c:\browstat status
Status for domain RANGER on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1194E7C0\AB-427E-786A-97D8-GRA8D0BAR6RE}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.

Results of ipconfig/all:

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : AllComp
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-62-09-S1-48-WD
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : XXX.168.0.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : XX.XXX.XXX.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : XX.XXX.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : XXX.XX.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : XXX.XX.XXX.XXX
XXX.XXX.XXX.186
XXX.XXX.XXX.187


Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, November 09, 2005
8:55:58
PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, November 16, 2005
8:55:58
PM







"Chuck" wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:33:39 -0800, "Danny" <Danny@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I am running windows XP media edition 2005. This computer is hard wired to a
> >router. I have two other wireless computers. All can access the internet.
> >Searched other posts and found some ideas, but done solved problem to date.
> >
> >I cannot view the work group \ network from the base computer. I get the
> >following messsage when I try to view the workgroup: "Networkname" is not
> >accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource.
> >Contact the administrator of this server to find oiut if you have permission.
> > The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available.
> >
> > ==the remote units can see this computer in the network, but not access.
> > ==I can ping the base unit from the other to units.
> > ==using start\run\\"other cpu in work group name" I can access and view
> >via windows explorer the files on this computers.
> >==I have both turn off and disabled from starting up ZoneAlarm, with no luck
> >==I have not tried to enter the ip addresses of the remote comoputers into
> >ZA, but do not thing this is the issue, but will try.
> >
> >=tried MS article 318030 with no luck(turning on netbios over TCP/IP and
> >broser service
> >
> >Thanks for the help in advance!
> >
> >Danny

>
> Danny,
>
> This is a well known problem, which can have any of several causes. Start with
> my tutorial please, and provide the request diagnostic information.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html
>
> Note ZA, even if disabled, might well be part of the problem!
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:02 AM
Chuck
 
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Default Re: Cannot View Work Group \ Network Computers

On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 18:55:05 -0800, "Danny" <Danny@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:33:39 -0800, "Danny" <Danny@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I am running windows XP media edition 2005. This computer is hard wired to a
>> >router. I have two other wireless computers. All can access the internet.
>> >Searched other posts and found some ideas, but done solved problem to date.
>> >
>> >I cannot view the work group \ network from the base computer. I get the
>> >following messsage when I try to view the workgroup: "Networkname" is not
>> >accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource.
>> >Contact the administrator of this server to find oiut if you have permission.
>> > The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available.
>> >
>> > ==the remote units can see this computer in the network, but not access.
>> > ==I can ping the base unit from the other to units.
>> > ==using start\run\\"other cpu in work group name" I can access and view
>> >via windows explorer the files on this computers.
>> >==I have both turn off and disabled from starting up ZoneAlarm, with no luck
>> >==I have not tried to enter the ip addresses of the remote comoputers into
>> >ZA, but do not thing this is the issue, but will try.
>> >
>> >=tried MS article 318030 with no luck(turning on netbios over TCP/IP and
>> >broser service
>> >
>> >Thanks for the help in advance!
>> >
>> >Danny

>>
>> Danny,
>>
>> This is a well known problem, which can have any of several causes. Start with
>> my tutorial please, and provide the request diagnostic information.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html
>>
>> Note ZA, even if disabled, might well be part of the problem!


>Chuck,
>
>Thanks for the quick response. I whole hardly agree, Zone Alarms has spent
>much of my time over the past few years!
>
>Here is what I found. First, it does not appear as if he Computer Broswer
>Service is starting. It is set to automatic, but when I check, it has not
>started. I can manually start, but it does not solve the issue.
>
>Here is the result from browstat status after manually starting the browser:
>
>
>C:\>c:\browstat status
>Status for domain RANGER on transport
>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1194E7C0\AB-427E-786A-97D8-GRA8D0BAR6RE}
> Browsing is NOT active on domain.
> Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.
>
>Results of ipconfig/all:
>
>Windows IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : AllComp
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>
>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-62-09-S1-48-WD
> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : XXX.168.0.100
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : XX.XXX.XXX.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : XX.XXX.0.1
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : XXX.XX.0.1
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : XXX.XX.XXX.XXX
> XXX.XXX.XXX.186
> XXX.XXX.XXX.187
>
>
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, November 09, 2005
>8:55:58
> PM
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, November 16, 2005
>8:55:58
> PM


Danny,

If you'll reread the articles, you'll notice that its says 2 things:
# Diagnostics from 2 (or 3, if you have 3) computers is much more useful.
# Don't munge or alter the output.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/privacy-statement.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...statement.html

Now the browser stopping is noticed when there's a firewall causing problems, or
when the Windows Firewall service has been stopped. Make sure that the WF / ICS
service is running. If necessary, un install Zone Alarm, and use instructions
from Zone Labs, don't just run the un install wizard.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:02 AM
Danny
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Cannot View Work Group \ Network Computers

Chuck,

Got it fixed! as follows

I took off from your idea of enabling windows firewall. I first went to ZA
and toggled the disable WFW to off. I next tried to enable WFW, with no
luck. I was getting the following error message that included: windows
firewall error 10047.

A search found a solution to a potential fix caused by microsoft spyware
disabling WFW. I had to manually reset the operating system default LSP. I
remember one time MSW asking to delete what appeared to be itself.

Here is a link to the website. i Reset and rebooted and all was good again.

http://www.jakeludington.com/ask_jak...ror_10047.html

Thanks for your time and assisatance, it is very much appreciated!

Danny

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 18:55:05 -0800, "Danny" <Danny@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:33:39 -0800, "Danny" <Danny@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I am running windows XP media edition 2005. This computer is hard wired to a
> >> >router. I have two other wireless computers. All can access the internet.
> >> >Searched other posts and found some ideas, but done solved problem to date.
> >> >
> >> >I cannot view the work group \ network from the base computer. I get the
> >> >following messsage when I try to view the workgroup: "Networkname" is not
> >> >accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource.
> >> >Contact the administrator of this server to find oiut if you have permission.
> >> > The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available.
> >> >
> >> > ==the remote units can see this computer in the network, but not access.
> >> > ==I can ping the base unit from the other to units.
> >> > ==using start\run\\"other cpu in work group name" I can access and view
> >> >via windows explorer the files on this computers.
> >> >==I have both turn off and disabled from starting up ZoneAlarm, with no luck
> >> >==I have not tried to enter the ip addresses of the remote comoputers into
> >> >ZA, but do not thing this is the issue, but will try.
> >> >
> >> >=tried MS article 318030 with no luck(turning on netbios over TCP/IP and
> >> >broser service
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for the help in advance!
> >> >
> >> >Danny
> >>
> >> Danny,
> >>
> >> This is a well known problem, which can have any of several causes. Start with
> >> my tutorial please, and provide the request diagnostic information.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html
> >>
> >> Note ZA, even if disabled, might well be part of the problem!

>
> >Chuck,
> >
> >Thanks for the quick response. I whole hardly agree, Zone Alarms has spent
> >much of my time over the past few years!
> >
> >Here is what I found. First, it does not appear as if he Computer Broswer
> >Service is starting. It is set to automatic, but when I check, it has not
> >started. I can manually start, but it does not solve the issue.
> >
> >Here is the result from browstat status after manually starting the browser:
> >
> >
> >C:\>c:\browstat status
> >Status for domain RANGER on transport
> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1194E7C0\AB-427E-786A-97D8-GRA8D0BAR6RE}
> > Browsing is NOT active on domain.
> > Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.
> >
> >Results of ipconfig/all:
> >
> >Windows IP Configuration
> >
> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : AllComp
> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >
> >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-62-09-S1-48-WD
> > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : XXX.168.0.100
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : XX.XXX.XXX.0
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : XX.XXX.0.1
> > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : XXX.XX.0.1
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : XXX.XX.XXX.XXX
> > XXX.XXX.XXX.186
> > XXX.XXX.XXX.187
> >
> >
> > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, November 09, 2005
> >8:55:58
> > PM
> > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, November 16, 2005
> >8:55:58
> > PM

>
> Danny,
>
> If you'll reread the articles, you'll notice that its says 2 things:
> # Diagnostics from 2 (or 3, if you have 3) computers is much more useful.
> # Don't munge or alter the output.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/privacy-statement.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...statement.html
>
> Now the browser stopping is noticed when there's a firewall causing problems, or
> when the Windows Firewall service has been stopped. Make sure that the WF / ICS
> service is running. If necessary, un install Zone Alarm, and use instructions
> from Zone Labs, don't just run the un install wizard.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:02 AM
Chuck
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Cannot View Work Group \ Network Computers

On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:20:01 -0800, "Danny" <Danny@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 18:55:05 -0800, "Danny" <Danny@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:33:39 -0800, "Danny" <Danny@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I am running windows XP media edition 2005. This computer is hard wired to a
>> >> >router. I have two other wireless computers. All can access the internet.
>> >> >Searched other posts and found some ideas, but done solved problem to date.
>> >> >
>> >> >I cannot view the work group \ network from the base computer. I get the
>> >> >following messsage when I try to view the workgroup: "Networkname" is not
>> >> >accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource.
>> >> >Contact the administrator of this server to find oiut if you have permission.
>> >> > The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available.
>> >> >
>> >> > ==the remote units can see this computer in the network, but not access.
>> >> > ==I can ping the base unit from the other to units.
>> >> > ==using start\run\\"other cpu in work group name" I can access and view
>> >> >via windows explorer the files on this computers.
>> >> >==I have both turn off and disabled from starting up ZoneAlarm, with no luck
>> >> >==I have not tried to enter the ip addresses of the remote comoputers into
>> >> >ZA, but do not thing this is the issue, but will try.
>> >> >
>> >> >=tried MS article 318030 with no luck(turning on netbios over TCP/IP and
>> >> >broser service
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks for the help in advance!
>> >> >
>> >> >Danny
>> >>
>> >> Danny,
>> >>
>> >> This is a well known problem, which can have any of several causes. Start with
>> >> my tutorial please, and provide the request diagnostic information.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html
>> >>
>> >> Note ZA, even if disabled, might well be part of the problem!

>>
>> >Chuck,
>> >
>> >Thanks for the quick response. I whole hardly agree, Zone Alarms has spent
>> >much of my time over the past few years!
>> >
>> >Here is what I found. First, it does not appear as if he Computer Broswer
>> >Service is starting. It is set to automatic, but when I check, it has not
>> >started. I can manually start, but it does not solve the issue.
>> >
>> >Here is the result from browstat status after manually starting the browser:
>> >
>> >
>> >C:\>c:\browstat status
>> >Status for domain RANGER on transport
>> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1194E7C0\AB-427E-786A-97D8-GRA8D0BAR6RE}
>> > Browsing is NOT active on domain.
>> > Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.
>> >
>> >Results of ipconfig/all:
>> >
>> >Windows IP Configuration
>> >
>> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : AllComp
>> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> >
>> >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>> >
>> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
>> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-62-09-S1-48-WD
>> > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : XXX.168.0.100
>> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : XX.XXX.XXX.0
>> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : XX.XXX.0.1
>> > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : XXX.XX.0.1
>> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : XXX.XX.XXX.XXX
>> > XXX.XXX.XXX.186
>> > XXX.XXX.XXX.187
>> >
>> >
>> > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, November 09, 2005
>> >8:55:58
>> > PM
>> > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, November 16, 2005
>> >8:55:58
>> > PM

>>
>> Danny,
>>
>> If you'll reread the articles, you'll notice that its says 2 things:
>> # Diagnostics from 2 (or 3, if you have 3) computers is much more useful.
>> # Don't munge or alter the output.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/privacy-statement.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...statement.html
>>
>> Now the browser stopping is noticed when there's a firewall causing problems, or
>> when the Windows Firewall service has been stopped. Make sure that the WF / ICS
>> service is running. If necessary, un install Zone Alarm, and use instructions
>> from Zone Labs, don't just run the un install wizard.


>Chuck,
>
>Got it fixed! as follows
>
>I took off from your idea of enabling windows firewall. I first went to ZA
>and toggled the disable WFW to off. I next tried to enable WFW, with no
>luck. I was getting the following error message that included: windows
>firewall error 10047.
>
>A search found a solution to a potential fix caused by microsoft spyware
>disabling WFW. I had to manually reset the operating system default LSP. I
>remember one time MSW asking to delete what appeared to be itself.
>
>Here is a link to the website. i Reset and rebooted and all was good again.
>
>http://www.jakeludington.com/ask_jak...ror_10047.html
>
>Thanks for your time and assisatance, it is very much appreciated!
>
>Danny


Danny,

You're welcome. Thanks for your feedback, and for updating the thread!

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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