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Old 01-05-2006, 04:02 AM
Nathon Jones
 
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Default A BT1800 ADSL router and a Netgear Switch nightmare!

Hi, Hoping someone with sufficient knowledge can help us out.

We have a BT1800 ADSL modem/router which has 4 ports.
We have a Netgear 8-port Switch.
We have 6 PC's in the office.

Is it possible to plug the Switch into one of the ports of the ADSL
modem/router and maintain a network Workgroup AND shared Internet access,
because we cant, for the life of us, get it to work?

Some background:
Previously, we had static IP addresses set up for each of the 6 PC's in the
office (they are all XP SP2). They would communicate with each other
through the Workgroup we created and we could look at, and access, files
held in shared folders, on any PC, from any PC, without a problem.

So we then plugged one of the spare ports from the switch into one of the
ports of the ADSL modem/router, but we can't get Internet access (DNS
error).

So....we decided to change the settings on each PC to automatically obtain
an IP address and DNS for each machine. Hey Presto...we can now all get
Internet access, but the Workgroup becomes disabled (by disabled I mean that
some machines appear in the workgroup and some dont - also one of the
machines that DOES appear doesn't let us access the Shared folders).

Any advice?

We are sure this is something to do with the DNS address we have specified
in the TCP/IP settings on each machine, but we have double checked the DNS
address provided by BT, and detailed in the settings of the ADSL
modem/router, and we have it correct. So why isn't it connecting?

Would really appreciate your input, thanks.

Regards
nath.




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Old 01-05-2006, 04:02 AM
QuarkBomb
 
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Set the WINS addresses to 127.0.0.1 or to your WINS server.

Otherwise, it doesn't sound like a Windows problem.

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"Nathon Jones" <info@NOSHPAMnathonjones.com> wrote in message
news:ea8FJ7s5FHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
: Hi, Hoping someone with sufficient knowledge can help us out.
:
: We have a BT1800 ADSL modem/router which has 4 ports.
: We have a Netgear 8-port Switch.
: We have 6 PC's in the office.
:
: Is it possible to plug the Switch into one of the ports of the ADSL
: modem/router and maintain a network Workgroup AND shared Internet access,
: because we cant, for the life of us, get it to work?
:
: Some background:
: Previously, we had static IP addresses set up for each of the 6 PC's in
the
: office (they are all XP SP2). They would communicate with each other
: through the Workgroup we created and we could look at, and access, files
: held in shared folders, on any PC, from any PC, without a problem.
:
: So we then plugged one of the spare ports from the switch into one of the
: ports of the ADSL modem/router, but we can't get Internet access (DNS
: error).
:
: So....we decided to change the settings on each PC to automatically obtain
: an IP address and DNS for each machine. Hey Presto...we can now all get
: Internet access, but the Workgroup becomes disabled (by disabled I mean
that
: some machines appear in the workgroup and some dont - also one of the
: machines that DOES appear doesn't let us access the Shared folders).
:
: Any advice?
:
: We are sure this is something to do with the DNS address we have specified
: in the TCP/IP settings on each machine, but we have double checked the DNS
: address provided by BT, and detailed in the settings of the ADSL
: modem/router, and we have it correct. So why isn't it connecting?
:
: Would really appreciate your input, thanks.
:
: Regards
: nath.
:
:
:
:


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Old 01-05-2006, 04:03 AM
Nathon Jones
 
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Default Re: A BT1800 ADSL router and a Netgear Switch nightmare!

Hi,

Thanks for the advice. Can you provide some information about WINS?
What is it, and why does it need to be set to 127.0.0.1?

Thanks.
Nath.

"QuarkBomb" <spank@themonkey.net> wrote in message
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> Set the WINS addresses to 127.0.0.1 or to your WINS server.
>
> Otherwise, it doesn't sound like a Windows problem.
>
> --
>
>
>
>
> http://www.everestpoker.com/S1485E/
>
> "Nathon Jones" <info@NOSHPAMnathonjones.com> wrote in message
> news:ea8FJ7s5FHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> : Hi, Hoping someone with sufficient knowledge can help us out.
> :
> : We have a BT1800 ADSL modem/router which has 4 ports.
> : We have a Netgear 8-port Switch.
> : We have 6 PC's in the office.
> :
> : Is it possible to plug the Switch into one of the ports of the ADSL
> : modem/router and maintain a network Workgroup AND shared Internet
> access,
> : because we cant, for the life of us, get it to work?
> :
> : Some background:
> : Previously, we had static IP addresses set up for each of the 6 PC's in
> the
> : office (they are all XP SP2). They would communicate with each other
> : through the Workgroup we created and we could look at, and access, files
> : held in shared folders, on any PC, from any PC, without a problem.
> :
> : So we then plugged one of the spare ports from the switch into one of
> the
> : ports of the ADSL modem/router, but we can't get Internet access (DNS
> : error).
> :
> : So....we decided to change the settings on each PC to automatically
> obtain
> : an IP address and DNS for each machine. Hey Presto...we can now all get
> : Internet access, but the Workgroup becomes disabled (by disabled I mean
> that
> : some machines appear in the workgroup and some dont - also one of the
> : machines that DOES appear doesn't let us access the Shared folders).
> :
> : Any advice?
> :
> : We are sure this is something to do with the DNS address we have
> specified
> : in the TCP/IP settings on each machine, but we have double checked the
> DNS
> : address provided by BT, and detailed in the settings of the ADSL
> : modem/router, and we have it correct. So why isn't it connecting?
> :
> : Would really appreciate your input, thanks.
> :
> : Regards
> : nath.
> :
> :
> :
> :
>
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 04:03 AM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
 
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Default Re: A BT1800 ADSL router and a Netgear Switch nightmare!

In article <#CI8KRS6FHA.476@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>, "Nathon Jones"
<info@NOSHPAMnathonjones.com> wrote:
>>>: Hi, Hoping someone with sufficient knowledge can help us out.
>>>:
>>>: We have a BT1800 ADSL modem/router which has 4 ports.
>>>: We have a Netgear 8-port Switch.
>>>: We have 6 PC's in the office.
>>>:
>>>: Is it possible to plug the Switch into one of the ports of the ADSL
>>>: modem/router and maintain a network Workgroup AND shared Internet access,
>>>: because we cant, for the life of us, get it to work?
>>>:
>>>: Some background:
>>>: Previously, we had static IP addresses set up for each of the 6 PC's in
>>>the
>>>: office (they are all XP SP2). They would communicate with each other
>>>: through the Workgroup we created and we could look at, and access, files
>>>: held in shared folders, on any PC, from any PC, without a problem.
>>>:
>>>: So we then plugged one of the spare ports from the switch into one of the
>>>: ports of the ADSL modem/router, but we can't get Internet access (DNS
>>>: error).
>>>:
>>>: So....we decided to change the settings on each PC to automatically obtain
>>>: an IP address and DNS for each machine. Hey Presto...we can now all get
>>>: Internet access, but the Workgroup becomes disabled (by disabled I mean
>>>that
>>>: some machines appear in the workgroup and some dont - also one of the
>>>: machines that DOES appear doesn't let us access the Shared folders).
>>>:
>>>: Any advice?
>>>:
>>>: We are sure this is something to do with the DNS address we have specified
>>>: in the TCP/IP settings on each machine, but we have double checked the DNS
>>>: address provided by BT, and detailed in the settings of the ADSL
>>>: modem/router, and we have it correct. So why isn't it connecting?

>
>>Set the WINS addresses to 127.0.0.1 or to your WINS server.
>>
>>Otherwise, it doesn't sound like a Windows problem.

>
>Hi,
>
>Thanks for the advice. Can you provide some information about WINS?
>What is it, and why does it need to be set to 127.0.0.1?
>
>Thanks.
>Nath.


The Windows Internet Naming Service (WINS) provides computer name
resolution on a domain (client/server) network. It has nothing to do
with Internet access or with file sharing on a workgroup network like
yours. You don't need to do anything with WINS.

There might be a simple solution to the problem: connect the ADSL
router to the uplink port on the Netgear switch, not to one of the 8
regular ports.
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:03 AM
QuarkBomb
 
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: The Windows Internet Naming Service (WINS) provides computer name
: resolution on a domain (client/server) network. It has nothing to do
: with Internet access or with file sharing on a workgroup network like
: yours.

A contradiction?


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Old 01-05-2006, 04:03 AM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
 
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In article <OQ9gD1W6FHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>, "QuarkBomb"
<spank@themonkey.net> wrote:
>: The Windows Internet Naming Service (WINS) provides computer name
>: resolution on a domain (client/server) network. It has nothing to do
>: with Internet access or with file sharing on a workgroup network like
>: yours.
>
>A contradiction?


Yes, it's a contradiction. Microsoft probably should have called it
the Windows Intranet Naming Service.

I was wondering if some bright person would pick up on that, and you
did. :-)
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