Port 113 - is "closed" OK?

I have an old router, and all ports except 113 show up as "stealth",
except 113, which shows up as "closed". On TVs "call for help" they
said that you should also have port 113 stealth, and said to get the
latest firmware for your router to make it so. I have the latest
firmware for my router, but it doesn't make port 113 stealthy.

How important is it to make port 113 stealth as opposed to closed? Is
it worth buying a new router to make it that way?
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On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 19:35:52 -0500, Jud McCranie <*email_address_deleted*>
wrote:

>I have an old router, and all ports except 113 show up as "stealth",
>except 113, which shows up as "closed". On TVs "call for help" they
>said that you should also have port 113 stealth, and said to get the
>latest firmware for your router to make it so. I have the latest
>firmware for my router, but it doesn't make port 113 stealthy.
>
>How important is it to make port 113 stealth as opposed to closed? Is
>it worth buying a new router to make it that way?

Jud,

Stealthing yourself is like hiding your head in the sand - it inconveniences
you, and it doesn't make you safe.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/security-by-obscurity.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...obscurity.html

Layer your security - don't hide.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ayer-your.html

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On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:10:55 -0800, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:

>Layer your security - don't hide.
><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html>

I ran Scanit, and tries Jason's (the other link didn't work). Scanit
found no problems. However, some popups were blocked.. Should I run
these tests with or without a popup blocker?
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I'll leave it to you whether you believe stealthiness is worthwhile. That
aside, if you want to stealth port 113 (or any other), there's no need to
buy another router. Just use the port forwarding feature of your router to
forward any requests on that port to a non-existent IP address on your
network. Simple as that.

Jim


"Jud McCranie" <youknowwhat.mccranie@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> I have an old router, and all ports except 113 show up as "stealth",
> except 113, which shows up as "closed". On TVs "call for help" they
> said that you should also have port 113 stealth, and said to get the
> latest firmware for your router to make it so. I have the latest
> firmware for my router, but it doesn't make port 113 stealthy.
>
> How important is it to make port 113 stealth as opposed to closed? Is
> it worth buying a new router to make it that way?
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In article <sd2dn1df5sibu2n1jhdnbt76olt5o43071@4ax.com>, Jud McCranie
<youknowwhat.mccranie@adelphia.net> wrote:
>I have an old router, and all ports except 113 show up as "stealth",
>except 113, which shows up as "closed". On TVs "call for help" they
>said that you should also have port 113 stealth, and said to get the
>latest firmware for your router to make it so. I have the latest
>firmware for my router, but it doesn't make port 113 stealthy.
>
>How important is it to make port 113 stealth as opposed to closed? Is
>it worth buying a new router to make it that way?

Closed is fine -- don't buy a new router. In fact, Closed is better
than Stealth on Port 113 in some cases, so some routers intentionally
un-stealth it. See:

http://grc.com/port_113.htm
http://www.dshield.org/ports/port113.php
http://www.hydrairc.com/wackowiki/Ident?show_files=1
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On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:30:13 -0700, "Steve Winograd [MVP]"
<bcmaven@mvps.org> wrote:

>>How important is it to make port 113 stealth as opposed to closed? Is
>>it worth buying a new router to make it that way?

I thank you and the others for the information.
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