Connecting 2 computers with a cross-over cable

I have a cat5 cross-over cable which I used to use to synchronise my XP
pro laptop with my win2k desktop however since upgrading my desktop to
xp pro, the two are no longer able to connect to each other. They both
say "This connection has limited or no connectivity" and complain that
they are not able to get an IP address. If I manually assign IP
addresses (in the 192.168.0.x range) they stop complaining but they
still can't see each other. Windows firewall is disabled at both ends
since I use Kerio and this is set to trust the ethernet connection.
They both have wireless connections too and are able to communicate
over that but sync'ing 60GB of data over a wifi connection isn't much
fun! Any help greatly appreciated.

On 25 Nov 2005 04:37:53 -0800, "Tamlyn Rhodes" <tamlyn.rhodes@gmail.com> wrote:

>I have a cat5 cross-over cable which I used to use to synchronise my XP
>pro laptop with my win2k desktop however since upgrading my desktop to
>xp pro, the two are no longer able to connect to each other. They both
>say "This connection has limited or no connectivity" and complain that
>they are not able to get an IP address. If I manually assign IP
>addresses (in the 192.168.0.x range) they stop complaining but they
>still can't see each other. Windows firewall is disabled at both ends
>since I use Kerio and this is set to trust the ethernet connection.
>They both have wireless connections too and are able to communicate
>over that but sync'ing 60GB of data over a wifi connection isn't much
>fun! Any help greatly appreciated.

Tamlyn,

When you use a cross-over cable, "This connection has limited or no
connectivity" is normal. Did you try using the connectiion when the error is
being displayed?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...nectivity.html

If you use Kerio, and it is set to "trust the ethernet connection", does that
include all addresses on there? Double check that, or un install Kerio, to make
sure that's not a problem. Misconfigured firewalls are probably the most common
cause for problems like yours.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ther-help.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

Chuck wrote:
> When you use a cross-over cable, "This connection has limited or no
> connectivity" is normal. Did you try using the connectiion when the error is
> being displayed?

Ah, I didn't know about APIPA. Yes I did try it anyway but each pc is
only able to see itself (after disabling the wifi).

> If you use Kerio, and it is set to "trust the ethernet connection", does that
> include all addresses on there? Double check that, or un install Kerio, to make
> sure that's not a problem. Misconfigured firewalls are probably the most common
> cause for problems like yours.

All addresses in the APIPA, 10.x.x.x and 192.168.x.x ranges are trusted
on both computers. I tried disabling the firewalls but it's the same.
I don't really fancy uninstalling them especially as the laptop used to
work fine with the desktop before the desktop was upgraded.

Hum...

T.

On 29 Nov 2005 11:38:02 -0800, "Tamlyn Rhodes" <*email_address_deleted*> wrote:

>Chuck wrote:
>> When you use a cross-over cable, "This connection has limited or no
>> connectivity" is normal. Did you try using the connectiion when the error is
>> being displayed?
>
>Ah, I didn't know about APIPA. Yes I did try it anyway but each pc is
>only able to see itself (after disabling the wifi).
>
>> If you use Kerio, and it is set to "trust the ethernet connection", does that
>> include all addresses on there? Double check that, or un install Kerio, to make
>> sure that's not a problem. Misconfigured firewalls are probably the most common
>> cause for problems like yours.
>
>All addresses in the APIPA, 10.x.x.x and 192.168.x.x ranges are trusted
>on both computers. I tried disabling the firewalls but it's the same.
>I don't really fancy uninstalling them especially as the laptop used to
>work fine with the desktop before the desktop was upgraded.
>
>Hum...
>
> T.

OK, let's explore the "each pc is only able to see itself" issue. Please
provide "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from each computer, as a start.
Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

Thanks for your help and patience

--[laptop:browstat]--------------------------------------------------
Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{65A7AAF0-0A21-4098-AFCC-74E674AE28CE}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: EUROPA
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master EUROPA
\\EUROPA
There are 4 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{65A7AAF0-0A21-4098-AFCC-74E674AE28CE}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{65A7AAF0-0A21-4098-AFCC-74E674AE28CE}

Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{86751CC8-FBDF-45B6-BA2B-0197EA3E9619}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master browser name is held by: THEMISTO
Master browser is running build 2600

--[laptop:ipconfig]--------------------------------------------------
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : themisto
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Ethernet:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900-Based PCI Fast
Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-BC-XX-XX
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.75.168
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter WiFi:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11g Network
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-A4-22-XX-XX
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.8
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.2
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.2
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.2
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 01 December 2005 01:40:53
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 31 December 2005 01:40:53

--[desktop:browstat]--------------------------------------------------
Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C7F0C1F0-67F0-4F7E-975A-15CF20D881AF}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: EUROPA
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master EUROPA
\\EUROPA
There are 4 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C7F0C1F0-67F0-4F7E-975A-15CF20D881AF}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C7F0C1F0-67F0-4F7E-975A-15CF20D881AF}


Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{D8D37BCE-1B12-4682-8A58-AE8EFC866F7A}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master browser name is held by: EUROPA
Master browser is running build 2600

--[desktop:ipconfig]--------------------------------------------------
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : europa
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Ethernet:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family
Gigabit Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-61-12-XX-XX
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.182.4
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter WiFi:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 802.11g Wireless PCI Card
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-E0-98-D3-XX-XX
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.14
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.2
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.2

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