I have a windows XP Pro machine that is connected to the Internet through
dial-up. I have Internet Connection Sharing working such that I can connect
to the Internet from a Windows 98SE computer through the XP Pro computer's
dial-up connection. Now, I need to be able to share folders from the XP
machine so the 98 machine can see them and the reverse. I've run the Network
setup wizard several times, but still cannot see either the XP machine from
the 98 machine OR the 98 machine from the XP machine.

Anyone know how to make this work?

Thanks,
Owen

Don't use the wizard.
Try this guide, should get your network up and running
http://www.pctechnicians.ca/help/xp.html


"Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
news:%23umQFaa%23FHA.3308@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>I have a windows XP Pro machine that is connected to the Internet through
>dial-up. I have Internet Connection Sharing working such that I can
>connect to the Internet from a Windows 98SE computer through the XP Pro
>computer's dial-up connection. Now, I need to be able to share folders
>from the XP machine so the 98 machine can see them and the reverse. I've
>run the Network setup wizard several times, but still cannot see either the
>XP machine from the 98 machine OR the 98 machine from the XP machine.
>
> Anyone know how to make this work?
>
> Thanks,
> Owen
>

Thanks. I'll give that a try when I get home this afternoon.

Owen

<rvegas@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Don't use the wizard.
> Try this guide, should get your network up and running
> http://www.pctechnicians.ca/help/xp.html
>
>
> "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
> news:%23umQFaa%23FHA.3308@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>I have a windows XP Pro machine that is connected to the Internet through
>>dial-up. I have Internet Connection Sharing working such that I can
>>connect to the Internet from a Windows 98SE computer through the XP Pro
>>computer's dial-up connection. Now, I need to be able to share folders
>>from the XP machine so the 98 machine can see them and the reverse. I've
>>run the Network setup wizard several times, but still cannot see either
>>the XP machine from the 98 machine OR the 98 machine from the XP machine.
>>
>> Anyone know how to make this work?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Owen
>>
>
>

"Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
news:uIsvm5b%23FHA.2176@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Thanks. I'll give that a try when I get home this afternoon.
>
> Owen
>
> <rvegas@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:OwztPzb%23FHA.2008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Don't use the wizard.
>> Try this guide, should get your network up and running
>> http://www.pctechnicians.ca/help/xp.html
>>
>>
>> "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
>> news:%23umQFaa%23FHA.3308@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>I have a windows XP Pro machine that is connected to the Internet through
>>>dial-up. I have Internet Connection Sharing working such that I can
>>>connect to the Internet from a Windows 98SE computer through the XP Pro
>>>computer's dial-up connection. Now, I need to be able to share folders
>>>from the XP machine so the 98 machine can see them and the reverse. I've
>>>run the Network setup wizard several times, but still cannot see either
>>>the XP machine from the 98 machine OR the 98 machine from the XP machine.
>>>
>>> Anyone know how to make this work?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Owen
>>>

Note that from the link given, you may wish to consider the following:

XP doesn't give you the option of netbeui as standard (you can install it as
an additional option from the XP disk)

ICS will not work if you use static IP addresses on the client machines and
will allocate a static IP address of 192.168.0.1 to the host machine.

The most relevant part of the article is setting up a user/password on the
XP machine the same as that used on the windows 98 machine.

Hmmm. Will the networking work without Netbeui installed? Or do I have to
install Netbeui on both machines and then tell it to allow Netbeui over TCP?


"Tony" <ttiger@lineone.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
> news:uIsvm5b%23FHA.2176@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks. I'll give that a try when I get home this afternoon.
>>
>> Owen
>>
>> <rvegas@rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:OwztPzb%23FHA.2008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Don't use the wizard.
>>> Try this guide, should get your network up and running
>>> http://www.pctechnicians.ca/help/xp.html
>>>
>>>
>>> "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
>>> news:%23umQFaa%23FHA.3308@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>I have a windows XP Pro machine that is connected to the Internet
>>>>through dial-up. I have Internet Connection Sharing working such that I
>>>>can connect to the Internet from a Windows 98SE computer through the XP
>>>>Pro computer's dial-up connection. Now, I need to be able to share
>>>>folders from the XP machine so the 98 machine can see them and the
>>>>reverse. I've run the Network setup wizard several times, but still
>>>>cannot see either the XP machine from the 98 machine OR the 98 machine
>>>>from the XP machine.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know how to make this work?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Owen
>>>>
>
> Note that from the link given, you may wish to consider the following:
>
> XP doesn't give you the option of netbeui as standard (you can install it
> as an additional option from the XP disk)
>
> ICS will not work if you use static IP addresses on the client machines
> and will allocate a static IP address of 192.168.0.1 to the host machine.
>
> The most relevant part of the article is setting up a user/password on the
> XP machine the same as that used on the windows 98 machine.
>

"Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
news:eXQsg5d%23FHA.2812@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hmmm. Will the networking work without Netbeui installed? Or do I have
> to install Netbeui on both machines and then tell it to allow Netbeui over
> TCP?
>
>
Yes it will work without Netbeui installed. If I recall correctly, windows
98 used to use it by default but MS have stopped supporting it now and you
should use TCP/IP instead. You can add TCP/IP as a protocol to the W98
computer.

Did not work. Still have the same problem: I can get to the Internet through
the XP computer from the 98 computer, but I can't see the XP computer from
the 98 computer nor the reverse.

I cannot disable the firewall for just the LAN connection. If I disable the
firewall on the LAN, the firewall is also disabled on the dial-up connection
to the Internet (I don't want to do that! The log shows just about constant
port probes from various ip addresses)....

Ideas,
Owen

"Tony" <ttiger@lineone.net> wrote in message
news:dn21em$elg$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
> news:uIsvm5b%23FHA.2176@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks. I'll give that a try when I get home this afternoon.
>>
>> Owen
>>
>> <rvegas@rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:OwztPzb%23FHA.2008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Don't use the wizard.
>>> Try this guide, should get your network up and running
>>> http://www.pctechnicians.ca/help/xp.html
>>>
>>>
>>> "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
>>> news:%23umQFaa%23FHA.3308@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>I have a windows XP Pro machine that is connected to the Internet
>>>>through dial-up. I have Internet Connection Sharing working such that I
>>>>can connect to the Internet from a Windows 98SE computer through the XP
>>>>Pro computer's dial-up connection. Now, I need to be able to share
>>>>folders from the XP machine so the 98 machine can see them and the
>>>>reverse. I've run the Network setup wizard several times, but still
>>>>cannot see either the XP machine from the 98 machine OR the 98 machine
>>>>from the XP machine.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know how to make this work?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Owen
>>>>
>
> Note that from the link given, you may wish to consider the following:
>
> XP doesn't give you the option of netbeui as standard (you can install it
> as an additional option from the XP disk)
>
> ICS will not work if you use static IP addresses on the client machines
> and will allocate a static IP address of 192.168.0.1 to the host machine.
>
> The most relevant part of the article is setting up a user/password on the
> XP machine the same as that used on the windows 98 machine.
>

On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:50:40 -0700, "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote:

>"Tony" <ttiger@lineone.net> wrote in message
>news:dn21em$elg$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>
>> "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
>> news:uIsvm5b%23FHA.2176@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks. I'll give that a try when I get home this afternoon.
>>>
>>> Owen
>>>
>>> <rvegas@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OwztPzb%23FHA.2008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> Don't use the wizard.
>>>> Try this guide, should get your network up and running
>>>> http://www.pctechnicians.ca/help/xp.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23umQFaa%23FHA.3308@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I have a windows XP Pro machine that is connected to the Internet
>>>>>through dial-up. I have Internet Connection Sharing working such that I
>>>>>can connect to the Internet from a Windows 98SE computer through the XP
>>>>>Pro computer's dial-up connection. Now, I need to be able to share
>>>>>folders from the XP machine so the 98 machine can see them and the
>>>>>reverse. I've run the Network setup wizard several times, but still
>>>>>cannot see either the XP machine from the 98 machine OR the 98 machine
>>>>>from the XP machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone know how to make this work?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Owen
>>>>>
>>
>> Note that from the link given, you may wish to consider the following:
>>
>> XP doesn't give you the option of netbeui as standard (you can install it
>> as an additional option from the XP disk)
>>
>> ICS will not work if you use static IP addresses on the client machines
>> and will allocate a static IP address of 192.168.0.1 to the host machine.
>>
>> The most relevant part of the article is setting up a user/password on the
>> XP machine the same as that used on the windows 98 machine.

>Did not work. Still have the same problem: I can get to the Internet through
>the XP computer from the 98 computer, but I can't see the XP computer from
>the 98 computer nor the reverse.
>
>I cannot disable the firewall for just the LAN connection. If I disable the
>firewall on the LAN, the firewall is also disabled on the dial-up connection
>to the Internet (I don't want to do that! The log shows just about constant
>port probes from various ip addresses)....
>
>Ideas,
>Owen

Owen,

If you have all correct protocols and transports on all computers, check for a
browser (no, I'm not discussing Internet Explorer) problem. This is a normal
situation with Windows 98 and Windows XP on the same LAN.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...d-browser.html
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-clean-up.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

I'll give that a shot... Thanks.

Owen

"Chuck" <none@example.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:50:40 -0700, "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org>
> wrote:
>
>>"Tony" <ttiger@lineone.net> wrote in message
>>news:dn21em$elg$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>>
>>> "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
>>> news:uIsvm5b%23FHA.2176@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thanks. I'll give that a try when I get home this afternoon.
>>>>
>>>> Owen
>>>>
>>>> <rvegas@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OwztPzb%23FHA.2008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Don't use the wizard.
>>>>> Try this guide, should get your network up and running
>>>>> http://www.pctechnicians.ca/help/xp.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23umQFaa%23FHA.3308@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I have a windows XP Pro machine that is connected to the Internet
>>>>>>through dial-up. I have Internet Connection Sharing working such that
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>can connect to the Internet from a Windows 98SE computer through the
>>>>>>XP
>>>>>>Pro computer's dial-up connection. Now, I need to be able to share
>>>>>>folders from the XP machine so the 98 machine can see them and the
>>>>>>reverse. I've run the Network setup wizard several times, but still
>>>>>>cannot see either the XP machine from the 98 machine OR the 98 machine
>>>>>>from the XP machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone know how to make this work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Owen
>>>>>>
>>>
>>> Note that from the link given, you may wish to consider the following:
>>>
>>> XP doesn't give you the option of netbeui as standard (you can install
>>> it
>>> as an additional option from the XP disk)
>>>
>>> ICS will not work if you use static IP addresses on the client machines
>>> and will allocate a static IP address of 192.168.0.1 to the host
>>> machine.
>>>
>>> The most relevant part of the article is setting up a user/password on
>>> the
>>> XP machine the same as that used on the windows 98 machine.
>
>>Did not work. Still have the same problem: I can get to the Internet
>>through
>>the XP computer from the 98 computer, but I can't see the XP computer from
>>the 98 computer nor the reverse.
>>
>>I cannot disable the firewall for just the LAN connection. If I disable
>>the
>>firewall on the LAN, the firewall is also disabled on the dial-up
>>connection
>>to the Internet (I don't want to do that! The log shows just about
>>constant
>>port probes from various ip addresses)....
>>
>>Ideas,
>>Owen
>
> Owen,
>
> If you have all correct protocols and transports on all computers, check
> for a
> browser (no, I'm not discussing Internet Explorer) problem. This is a
> normal
> situation with Windows 98 and Windows XP on the same LAN.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...d-browser.html
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-clean-up.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.

Half way there! Once I disabled the browser on the 98 machine, I could find
it from the XP Pro machine. However, I still can't see the XP Pro machine
from the 98 machine....

Anyone?

Owen

"Chuck" <none@example.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:50:40 -0700, "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org>
> wrote:
>
>>"Tony" <ttiger@lineone.net> wrote in message
>>news:dn21em$elg$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>>
>>> "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
>>> news:uIsvm5b%23FHA.2176@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thanks. I'll give that a try when I get home this afternoon.
>>>>
>>>> Owen
>>>>
>>>> <rvegas@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OwztPzb%23FHA.2008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Don't use the wizard.
>>>>> Try this guide, should get your network up and running
>>>>> http://www.pctechnicians.ca/help/xp.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23umQFaa%23FHA.3308@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I have a windows XP Pro machine that is connected to the Internet
>>>>>>through dial-up. I have Internet Connection Sharing working such that
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>can connect to the Internet from a Windows 98SE computer through the
>>>>>>XP
>>>>>>Pro computer's dial-up connection. Now, I need to be able to share
>>>>>>folders from the XP machine so the 98 machine can see them and the
>>>>>>reverse. I've run the Network setup wizard several times, but still
>>>>>>cannot see either the XP machine from the 98 machine OR the 98 machine
>>>>>>from the XP machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone know how to make this work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Owen
>>>>>>
>>>
>>> Note that from the link given, you may wish to consider the following:
>>>
>>> XP doesn't give you the option of netbeui as standard (you can install
>>> it
>>> as an additional option from the XP disk)
>>>
>>> ICS will not work if you use static IP addresses on the client machines
>>> and will allocate a static IP address of 192.168.0.1 to the host
>>> machine.
>>>
>>> The most relevant part of the article is setting up a user/password on
>>> the
>>> XP machine the same as that used on the windows 98 machine.
>
>>Did not work. Still have the same problem: I can get to the Internet
>>through
>>the XP computer from the 98 computer, but I can't see the XP computer from
>>the 98 computer nor the reverse.
>>
>>I cannot disable the firewall for just the LAN connection. If I disable
>>the
>>firewall on the LAN, the firewall is also disabled on the dial-up
>>connection
>>to the Internet (I don't want to do that! The log shows just about
>>constant
>>port probes from various ip addresses)....
>>
>>Ideas,
>>Owen
>
> Owen,
>
> If you have all correct protocols and transports on all computers, check
> for a
> browser (no, I'm not discussing Internet Explorer) problem. This is a
> normal
> situation with Windows 98 and Windows XP on the same LAN.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...d-browser.html
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-clean-up.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.