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Old 01-05-2006, 04:09 AM
Lori
 
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Default Can't See One Network Computer

We have a wireless route (DLink DI-624) that has been working great for a
long time. It seems that one of the four computers, although it shows in the
network list, no one can access that computer's files, yet that computer can
access the other computer's files. I have tried everything to be able to see
that computer's files but no luck.

Can someone provide a type of check list to do through to make sure
something isn't checked wrong or something along those lines? I am stumped.
There is no firewall on, I clicked to share the files and I don't know what
else to try.

Thanks for any help you can offer.
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:09 AM
Chuck
 
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:27:03 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>We have a wireless route (DLink DI-624) that has been working great for a
>long time. It seems that one of the four computers, although it shows in the
>network list, no one can access that computer's files, yet that computer can
>access the other computer's files. I have tried everything to be able to see
>that computer's files but no luck.
>
>Can someone provide a type of check list to do through to make sure
>something isn't checked wrong or something along those lines? I am stumped.
>There is no firewall on, I clicked to share the files and I don't know what
>else to try.
>
>Thanks for any help you can offer.


Lori,

Start with my troubleshooting guide.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html

If you're actually having "...access denied..." errors, understand file sharing
and authentication.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:09 AM
Lori
 
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Default Re: Can't See One Network Computer

Chuck,
HELP! I read these articles on the links and this is, for example, the
problem I'm running into, besides it being highly technical (IMHO). For
instance, where it says:

If you want to enable Simple File Sharing on a computer running XP Pro or
MCE, from Windows Explorer:

Select Tools - Folder Options.
On the Views tab, scroll to the end of the long Advanced settings list.
Check "Use simple file sharing"

I don't have, at the end of the long Advanced settings list, "Use simple
file sharing" to select from. I was able to activate Guest account under the
one computer no one can see (although her computer sees all of ours), since
it had Guest disabled, but that didn't help. I am truly stuck as to what to
try. Nothing in those articles, even though we are all operating on XP Home
seems to apply to us. Any other thoughts off the top of your head, please???

Lori

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:27:03 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >We have a wireless route (DLink DI-624) that has been working great for a
> >long time. It seems that one of the four computers, although it shows in the
> >network list, no one can access that computer's files, yet that computer can
> >access the other computer's files. I have tried everything to be able to see
> >that computer's files but no luck.
> >
> >Can someone provide a type of check list to do through to make sure
> >something isn't checked wrong or something along those lines? I am stumped.
> >There is no firewall on, I clicked to share the files and I don't know what
> >else to try.
> >
> >Thanks for any help you can offer.

>
> Lori,
>
> Start with my troubleshooting guide.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html
>
> If you're actually having "...access denied..." errors, understand file sharing
> and authentication.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:09 AM
Lori
 
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Default Re: Can't See One Network Computer

PS: Another thing I wasn't able to do is, under the Administrative Tools,
when it talks about under Computer Management, where there is supposed to a
section for users, there is none. Also, I had no "restrictanonymous" entry
under Lsa of the registry. Followed all the paths and it doesn't even exist.

"Lori" wrote:

> Chuck,
> HELP! I read these articles on the links and this is, for example, the
> problem I'm running into, besides it being highly technical (IMHO). For
> instance, where it says:
>
> If you want to enable Simple File Sharing on a computer running XP Pro or
> MCE, from Windows Explorer:
>
> Select Tools - Folder Options.
> On the Views tab, scroll to the end of the long Advanced settings list.
> Check "Use simple file sharing"
>
> I don't have, at the end of the long Advanced settings list, "Use simple
> file sharing" to select from. I was able to activate Guest account under the
> one computer no one can see (although her computer sees all of ours), since
> it had Guest disabled, but that didn't help. I am truly stuck as to what to
> try. Nothing in those articles, even though we are all operating on XP Home
> seems to apply to us. Any other thoughts off the top of your head, please???
>
> Lori
>
> "Chuck" wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:27:03 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >We have a wireless route (DLink DI-624) that has been working great for a
> > >long time. It seems that one of the four computers, although it shows in the
> > >network list, no one can access that computer's files, yet that computer can
> > >access the other computer's files. I have tried everything to be able to see
> > >that computer's files but no luck.
> > >
> > >Can someone provide a type of check list to do through to make sure
> > >something isn't checked wrong or something along those lines? I am stumped.
> > >There is no firewall on, I clicked to share the files and I don't know what
> > >else to try.
> > >
> > >Thanks for any help you can offer.

> >
> > Lori,
> >
> > Start with my troubleshooting guide.
> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html
> >
> > If you're actually having "...access denied..." errors, understand file sharing
> > and authentication.
> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> > My email is AT DOT
> > actual address pchuck mvps org.
> >

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:09 AM
Chuck
 
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Default Re: Can't See One Network Computer

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:04:02 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:27:03 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >We have a wireless route (DLink DI-624) that has been working great for a
>> >long time. It seems that one of the four computers, although it shows in the
>> >network list, no one can access that computer's files, yet that computer can
>> >access the other computer's files. I have tried everything to be able to see
>> >that computer's files but no luck.
>> >
>> >Can someone provide a type of check list to do through to make sure
>> >something isn't checked wrong or something along those lines? I am stumped.
>> >There is no firewall on, I clicked to share the files and I don't know what
>> >else to try.
>> >
>> >Thanks for any help you can offer.

>>
>> Lori,
>>
>> Start with my troubleshooting guide.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html
>>
>> If you're actually having "...access denied..." errors, understand file sharing
>> and authentication.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html


>Chuck,
>HELP! I read these articles on the links and this is, for example, the
>problem I'm running into, besides it being highly technical (IMHO). For
>instance, where it says:
>
>If you want to enable Simple File Sharing on a computer running XP Pro or
>MCE, from Windows Explorer:
>
>Select Tools - Folder Options.
>On the Views tab, scroll to the end of the long Advanced settings list.
>Check "Use simple file sharing"
>
>I don't have, at the end of the long Advanced settings list, "Use simple
>file sharing" to select from. I was able to activate Guest account under the
>one computer no one can see (although her computer sees all of ours), since
>it had Guest disabled, but that didn't help. I am truly stuck as to what to
>try. Nothing in those articles, even though we are all operating on XP Home
>seems to apply to us. Any other thoughts off the top of your head, please???
>
>Lori


OK, Lori, I know it's all too technical for some. That's why this forum (and
others like it) exist.

What version, edition (if XP, is it Home or Pro), and Service Pack of Windows?
That's the key. Right click on My Computer, and select Properties. Type
everything under System: here.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:09 AM
Lori
 
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Default Re: Can't See One Network Computer

First, let me say, THANK YOU for understanding and working with me.

Now, my computer, which can't see anything on the other one (although hers
can see mine), the info is Windows XP Home, Version 2002, Service Pack 2.
The computer that can see everyone else's stuff but no one else can see is
Windows XP Home, Version 2002, Service Pack 1.

Hope this helps.

Lori


"Chuck" wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:04:02 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:27:03 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >We have a wireless route (DLink DI-624) that has been working great for a
> >> >long time. It seems that one of the four computers, although it shows in the
> >> >network list, no one can access that computer's files, yet that computer can
> >> >access the other computer's files. I have tried everything to be able to see
> >> >that computer's files but no luck.
> >> >
> >> >Can someone provide a type of check list to do through to make sure
> >> >something isn't checked wrong or something along those lines? I am stumped.
> >> >There is no firewall on, I clicked to share the files and I don't know what
> >> >else to try.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for any help you can offer.
> >>
> >> Lori,
> >>
> >> Start with my troubleshooting guide.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html
> >>
> >> If you're actually having "...access denied..." errors, understand file sharing
> >> and authentication.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html

>
> >Chuck,
> >HELP! I read these articles on the links and this is, for example, the
> >problem I'm running into, besides it being highly technical (IMHO). For
> >instance, where it says:
> >
> >If you want to enable Simple File Sharing on a computer running XP Pro or
> >MCE, from Windows Explorer:
> >
> >Select Tools - Folder Options.
> >On the Views tab, scroll to the end of the long Advanced settings list.
> >Check "Use simple file sharing"
> >
> >I don't have, at the end of the long Advanced settings list, "Use simple
> >file sharing" to select from. I was able to activate Guest account under the
> >one computer no one can see (although her computer sees all of ours), since
> >it had Guest disabled, but that didn't help. I am truly stuck as to what to
> >try. Nothing in those articles, even though we are all operating on XP Home
> >seems to apply to us. Any other thoughts off the top of your head, please???
> >
> >Lori

>
> OK, Lori, I know it's all too technical for some. That's why this forum (and
> others like it) exist.
>
> What version, edition (if XP, is it Home or Pro), and Service Pack of Windows?
> That's the key. Right click on My Computer, and select Properties. Type
> everything under System: here.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:09 AM
Chuck
 
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Default Re: Can't See One Network Computer

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:21:02 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:04:02 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:27:03 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >We have a wireless route (DLink DI-624) that has been working great for a
>> >> >long time. It seems that one of the four computers, although it shows in the
>> >> >network list, no one can access that computer's files, yet that computer can
>> >> >access the other computer's files. I have tried everything to be able to see
>> >> >that computer's files but no luck.
>> >> >
>> >> >Can someone provide a type of check list to do through to make sure
>> >> >something isn't checked wrong or something along those lines? I am stumped.
>> >> >There is no firewall on, I clicked to share the files and I don't know what
>> >> >else to try.
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks for any help you can offer.
>> >>
>> >> Lori,
>> >>
>> >> Start with my troubleshooting guide.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html
>> >>
>> >> If you're actually having "...access denied..." errors, understand file sharing
>> >> and authentication.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html

>>
>> >Chuck,
>> >HELP! I read these articles on the links and this is, for example, the
>> >problem I'm running into, besides it being highly technical (IMHO). For
>> >instance, where it says:
>> >
>> >If you want to enable Simple File Sharing on a computer running XP Pro or
>> >MCE, from Windows Explorer:
>> >
>> >Select Tools - Folder Options.
>> >On the Views tab, scroll to the end of the long Advanced settings list.
>> >Check "Use simple file sharing"
>> >
>> >I don't have, at the end of the long Advanced settings list, "Use simple
>> >file sharing" to select from. I was able to activate Guest account under the
>> >one computer no one can see (although her computer sees all of ours), since
>> >it had Guest disabled, but that didn't help. I am truly stuck as to what to
>> >try. Nothing in those articles, even though we are all operating on XP Home
>> >seems to apply to us. Any other thoughts off the top of your head, please???
>> >
>> >Lori

>>
>> OK, Lori, I know it's all too technical for some. That's why this forum (and
>> others like it) exist.
>>
>> What version, edition (if XP, is it Home or Pro), and Service Pack of Windows?
>> That's the key. Right click on My Computer, and select Properties. Type
>> everything under System: here.


>First, let me say, THANK YOU for understanding and working with me.
>
>Now, my computer, which can't see anything on the other one (although hers
>can see mine), the info is Windows XP Home, Version 2002, Service Pack 2.
>The computer that can see everyone else's stuff but no one else can see is
>Windows XP Home, Version 2002, Service Pack 1.


OK, Lori. This makes sense now. With XP Home, you don't have any of those
selections. Read again, please. I'll try and make this simpler, with your help
and participation.

If your computer runs XP Home, then it has Simple File Sharing already. SFS,
which only uses Guest authentication, cannot be disabled under XP Home.

To use Simple File Sharing on any XP server, Home or Pro, make sure that the
Guest account is properly activated, and the password is consistently set (blank
or non-blank), on both the client and the server.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html

Then read instructions for using Guest.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Guest>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-xp.html#Guest

Now, precisely what error are you seeing? Does the "server" (computer with the
shared folders) not show up in Network Neighborhood?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html

Or do you get "...access denied..." when you try to access a share that does
show in NN?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/mysterious-error-5-aka-access-denied.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ss-denied.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:09 AM
Lori
 
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Okay. I did all the synchronizations and made sure the passwords were all
blank and that all the accounts were activated, but still no go! I don't
know what else is left. These are ALL XP Home computers. I am currently
doing an update on the computer that can see everyone else's and access
everyone else's computers in the network, but whose no one else in the
network can see. She is NOT the administrator of the network, by the way. I
am don't know else could be wrong.
Do you think upgrading to Service Pack 2 might help? We have one other
computer in the network (four desktops and one laptop) that is still on SP1,
but he has no trouble with anything. Are we giving up yet???

Thanks, Chuck, for your persistence. I'm sure it's something I am missing
that is probably not big thing, but until I can zero in on it...

Lori

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:21:02 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:04:02 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:27:03 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >We have a wireless route (DLink DI-624) that has been working great for a
> >> >> >long time. It seems that one of the four computers, although it shows in the
> >> >> >network list, no one can access that computer's files, yet that computer can
> >> >> >access the other computer's files. I have tried everything to be able to see
> >> >> >that computer's files but no luck.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Can someone provide a type of check list to do through to make sure
> >> >> >something isn't checked wrong or something along those lines? I am stumped.
> >> >> >There is no firewall on, I clicked to share the files and I don't know what
> >> >> >else to try.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Thanks for any help you can offer.
> >> >>
> >> >> Lori,
> >> >>
> >> >> Start with my troubleshooting guide.
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html
> >> >>
> >> >> If you're actually having "...access denied..." errors, understand file sharing
> >> >> and authentication.
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html
> >>
> >> >Chuck,
> >> >HELP! I read these articles on the links and this is, for example, the
> >> >problem I'm running into, besides it being highly technical (IMHO). For
> >> >instance, where it says:
> >> >
> >> >If you want to enable Simple File Sharing on a computer running XP Pro or
> >> >MCE, from Windows Explorer:
> >> >
> >> >Select Tools - Folder Options.
> >> >On the Views tab, scroll to the end of the long Advanced settings list.
> >> >Check "Use simple file sharing"
> >> >
> >> >I don't have, at the end of the long Advanced settings list, "Use simple
> >> >file sharing" to select from. I was able to activate Guest account under the
> >> >one computer no one can see (although her computer sees all of ours), since
> >> >it had Guest disabled, but that didn't help. I am truly stuck as to what to
> >> >try. Nothing in those articles, even though we are all operating on XP Home
> >> >seems to apply to us. Any other thoughts off the top of your head, please???
> >> >
> >> >Lori
> >>
> >> OK, Lori, I know it's all too technical for some. That's why this forum (and
> >> others like it) exist.
> >>
> >> What version, edition (if XP, is it Home or Pro), and Service Pack of Windows?
> >> That's the key. Right click on My Computer, and select Properties. Type
> >> everything under System: here.

>
> >First, let me say, THANK YOU for understanding and working with me.
> >
> >Now, my computer, which can't see anything on the other one (although hers
> >can see mine), the info is Windows XP Home, Version 2002, Service Pack 2.
> >The computer that can see everyone else's stuff but no one else can see is
> >Windows XP Home, Version 2002, Service Pack 1.

>
> OK, Lori. This makes sense now. With XP Home, you don't have any of those
> selections. Read again, please. I'll try and make this simpler, with your help
> and participation.
>
> If your computer runs XP Home, then it has Simple File Sharing already. SFS,
> which only uses Guest authentication, cannot be disabled under XP Home.
>
> To use Simple File Sharing on any XP server, Home or Pro, make sure that the
> Guest account is properly activated, and the password is consistently set (blank
> or non-blank), on both the client and the server.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html
>
> Then read instructions for using Guest.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Guest>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-xp.html#Guest
>
> Now, precisely what error are you seeing? Does the "server" (computer with the
> shared folders) not show up in Network Neighborhood?
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html
>
> Or do you get "...access denied..." when you try to access a share that does
> show in NN?
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/mysterious-error-5-aka-access-denied.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ss-denied.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:09 AM
Lori
 
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Chuck,
Have been reading on MS web site and doing all the things your articles
suggested and no luck. One thing I did note, when I ran from "run"
\\"computername" (of course, using the real computer names), I was able to
open all the files on the two other computers on the network, but not the one
giving us the trouble. And vice versa. I even tried my own name on my
computer to test local connectivity and it worked fine. It is just that one
computer that no one else can see but she can see and use all of our
files/folders.

I am about to give up. I don't think there is anything left to try short of
upgrading to Service Pack 2, and I don't put much hope in that fixing this
problem. Please let me know if there is anything else you can think of to
try.

Thanks again for your efforts.

"Lori" wrote:

> Okay. I did all the synchronizations and made sure the passwords were all
> blank and that all the accounts were activated, but still no go! I don't
> know what else is left. These are ALL XP Home computers. I am currently
> doing an update on the computer that can see everyone else's and access
> everyone else's computers in the network, but whose no one else in the
> network can see. She is NOT the administrator of the network, by the way. I
> am don't know else could be wrong.
> Do you think upgrading to Service Pack 2 might help? We have one other
> computer in the network (four desktops and one laptop) that is still on SP1,
> but he has no trouble with anything. Are we giving up yet???
>
> Thanks, Chuck, for your persistence. I'm sure it's something I am missing
> that is probably not big thing, but until I can zero in on it...
>
> Lori
>
> "Chuck" wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:21:02 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >"Chuck" wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:04:02 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:27:03 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >We have a wireless route (DLink DI-624) that has been working great for a
> > >> >> >long time. It seems that one of the four computers, although it shows in the
> > >> >> >network list, no one can access that computer's files, yet that computer can
> > >> >> >access the other computer's files. I have tried everything to be able to see
> > >> >> >that computer's files but no luck.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Can someone provide a type of check list to do through to make sure
> > >> >> >something isn't checked wrong or something along those lines? I am stumped.
> > >> >> >There is no firewall on, I clicked to share the files and I don't know what
> > >> >> >else to try.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Thanks for any help you can offer.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Lori,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Start with my troubleshooting guide.
> > >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> > >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html
> > >> >>
> > >> >> If you're actually having "...access denied..." errors, understand file sharing
> > >> >> and authentication.
> > >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
> > >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html
> > >>
> > >> >Chuck,
> > >> >HELP! I read these articles on the links and this is, for example, the
> > >> >problem I'm running into, besides it being highly technical (IMHO). For
> > >> >instance, where it says:
> > >> >
> > >> >If you want to enable Simple File Sharing on a computer running XP Pro or
> > >> >MCE, from Windows Explorer:
> > >> >
> > >> >Select Tools - Folder Options.
> > >> >On the Views tab, scroll to the end of the long Advanced settings list.
> > >> >Check "Use simple file sharing"
> > >> >
> > >> >I don't have, at the end of the long Advanced settings list, "Use simple
> > >> >file sharing" to select from. I was able to activate Guest account under the
> > >> >one computer no one can see (although her computer sees all of ours), since
> > >> >it had Guest disabled, but that didn't help. I am truly stuck as to what to
> > >> >try. Nothing in those articles, even though we are all operating on XP Home
> > >> >seems to apply to us. Any other thoughts off the top of your head, please???
> > >> >
> > >> >Lori
> > >>
> > >> OK, Lori, I know it's all too technical for some. That's why this forum (and
> > >> others like it) exist.
> > >>
> > >> What version, edition (if XP, is it Home or Pro), and Service Pack of Windows?
> > >> That's the key. Right click on My Computer, and select Properties. Type
> > >> everything under System: here.

> >
> > >First, let me say, THANK YOU for understanding and working with me.
> > >
> > >Now, my computer, which can't see anything on the other one (although hers
> > >can see mine), the info is Windows XP Home, Version 2002, Service Pack 2.
> > >The computer that can see everyone else's stuff but no one else can see is
> > >Windows XP Home, Version 2002, Service Pack 1.

> >
> > OK, Lori. This makes sense now. With XP Home, you don't have any of those
> > selections. Read again, please. I'll try and make this simpler, with your help
> > and participation.
> >
> > If your computer runs XP Home, then it has Simple File Sharing already. SFS,
> > which only uses Guest authentication, cannot be disabled under XP Home.
> >
> > To use Simple File Sharing on any XP server, Home or Pro, make sure that the
> > Guest account is properly activated, and the password is consistently set (blank
> > or non-blank), on both the client and the server.
> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html
> >
> > Then read instructions for using Guest.
> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Guest>
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-xp.html#Guest
> >
> > Now, precisely what error are you seeing? Does the "server" (computer with the
> > shared folders) not show up in Network Neighborhood?
> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html
> >
> > Or do you get "...access denied..." when you try to access a share that does
> > show in NN?
> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/mysterious-error-5-aka-access-denied.html>
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ss-denied.html
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> > My email is AT DOT
> > actual address pchuck mvps org.
> >

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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:33:02 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>"Lori" wrote:
>
>> Okay. I did all the synchronizations and made sure the passwords were all
>> blank and that all the accounts were activated, but still no go! I don't
>> know what else is left. These are ALL XP Home computers. I am currently
>> doing an update on the computer that can see everyone else's and access
>> everyone else's computers in the network, but whose no one else in the
>> network can see. She is NOT the administrator of the network, by the way. I
>> am don't know else could be wrong.
>> Do you think upgrading to Service Pack 2 might help? We have one other
>> computer in the network (four desktops and one laptop) that is still on SP1,
>> but he has no trouble with anything. Are we giving up yet???
>>
>> Thanks, Chuck, for your persistence. I'm sure it's something I am missing
>> that is probably not big thing, but until I can zero in on it...
>>
>> Lori
>>
>> "Chuck" wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:21:02 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >"Chuck" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:04:02 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:27:03 -0800, "Lori" <Lori@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> > >> >> wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> >We have a wireless route (DLink DI-624) that has been working great for a
>> > >> >> >long time. It seems that one of the four computers, although it shows in the
>> > >> >> >network list, no one can access that computer's files, yet that computer can
>> > >> >> >access the other computer's files. I have tried everything to be able to see
>> > >> >> >that computer's files but no luck.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >Can someone provide a type of check list to do through to make sure
>> > >> >> >something isn't checked wrong or something along those lines? I am stumped.
>> > >> >> >There is no firewall on, I clicked to share the files and I don't know what
>> > >> >> >else to try.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >Thanks for any help you can offer.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Lori,
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Start with my troubleshooting guide.
>> > >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
>> > >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> If you're actually having "...access denied..." errors, understand file sharing
>> > >> >> and authentication.
>> > >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
>> > >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html
>> > >>
>> > >> >Chuck,
>> > >> >HELP! I read these articles on the links and this is, for example, the
>> > >> >problem I'm running into, besides it being highly technical (IMHO). For
>> > >> >instance, where it says:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >If you want to enable Simple File Sharing on a computer running XP Pro or
>> > >> >MCE, from Windows Explorer:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Select Tools - Folder Options.
>> > >> >On the Views tab, scroll to the end of the long Advanced settings list.
>> > >> >Check "Use simple file sharing"
>> > >> >
>> > >> >I don't have, at the end of the long Advanced settings list, "Use simple
>> > >> >file sharing" to select from. I was able to activate Guest account under the
>> > >> >one computer no one can see (although her computer sees all of ours), since
>> > >> >it had Guest disabled, but that didn't help. I am truly stuck as to what to
>> > >> >try. Nothing in those articles, even though we are all operating on XP Home
>> > >> >seems to apply to us. Any other thoughts off the top of your head, please???
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Lori
>> > >>
>> > >> OK, Lori, I know it's all too technical for some. That's why this forum (and
>> > >> others like it) exist.
>> > >>
>> > >> What version, edition (if XP, is it Home or Pro), and Service Pack of Windows?
>> > >> That's the key. Right click on My Computer, and select Properties. Type
>> > >> everything under System: here.
>> >
>> > >First, let me say, THANK YOU for understanding and working with me.
>> > >
>> > >Now, my computer, which can't see anything on the other one (although hers
>> > >can see mine), the info is Windows XP Home, Version 2002, Service Pack 2.
>> > >The computer that can see everyone else's stuff but no one else can see is
>> > >Windows XP Home, Version 2002, Service Pack 1.
>> >
>> > OK, Lori. This makes sense now. With XP Home, you don't have any of those
>> > selections. Read again, please. I'll try and make this simpler, with your help
>> > and participation.
>> >
>> > If your computer runs XP Home, then it has Simple File Sharing already. SFS,
>> > which only uses Guest authentication, cannot be disabled under XP Home.
>> >
>> > To use Simple File Sharing on any XP server, Home or Pro, make sure that the
>> > Guest account is properly activated, and the password is consistently set (blank
>> > or non-blank), on both the client and the server.
>> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
>> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html
>> >
>> > Then read instructions for using Guest.
>> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Guest>
>> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-xp.html#Guest
>> >
>> > Now, precisely what error are you seeing? Does the "server" (computer with the
>> > shared folders) not show up in Network Neighborhood?
>> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
>> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html
>> >
>> > Or do you get "...access denied..." when you try to access a share that does
>> > show in NN?
>> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/mysterious-error-5-aka-access-denied.html>
>> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ss-denied.html


>Chuck,
>Have been reading on MS web site and doing all the things your articles
>suggested and no luck. One thing I did note, when I ran from "run"
>\\"computername" (of course, using the real computer names), I was able to
>open all the files on the two other computers on the network, but not the one
>giving us the trouble. And vice versa. I even tried my own name on my
>computer to test local connectivity and it worked fine. It is just that one
>computer that no one else can see but she can see and use all of our
>files/folders.
>
>I am about to give up. I don't think there is anything left to try short of
>upgrading to Service Pack 2, and I don't put much hope in that fixing this
>problem. Please let me know if there is anything else you can think of to
>try.
>
>Thanks again for your efforts.


Lori,

You're talking about a browser problem. Let's try analysing the problem,
instead of guessing at it. Please provide "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all"
from BOTH computers. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow
instructions precisely:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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