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Hi, I'm trying to make the network bridging functionnality to work between
two networks (wired) that have different IP segments. My understading is that it should work but it doesn't. I'm using XP sp2 with 2 NIC. On one side I use 172.16.12.x and on the other side 102.0.0.x I set up NIC and create a bridge. Bridge is created and both NIC are attached. The bridge grab an IP from one DHCP at 172.16.12.x . Question 1: is that ip should be use has gateway? Question 2: I just can't ping "inter-segment" through the bridge. Question 3: Can it be a subnet mask related problem ? (using 255.255.255.0) Thks. |
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This is a complex subject, though basically the machines on each network
should have their default gateway set to be the IP on their side of the router. You also need to do this: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/art.../w2kprout.html It should be apparent that dynamic addresses are not suitable for a router, they need to be fixed. It is also the case that while this will route pure TCP services, Windows machines will not be able to "see" each other across the router, because they do that by way of local-subnet broadcasts. For that to work you need either LMHOSTS entries, or else a WINS or DNS server. |
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In article <5F6AACFC-F7B7-498D-B2F7-E2E274BF6C9C@microsoft.com>,
Michel <Michel@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >Hi, I'm trying to make the network bridging functionnality to work between >two networks (wired) that have different IP segments. My understading is that >it should work but it doesn't. I'm using XP sp2 with 2 NIC. On one side I use >172.16.12.x and on the other side 102.0.0.x I set up NIC and create a >bridge. Bridge is created and both NIC are attached. The bridge grab an IP >from one DHCP at 172.16.12.x . >Question 1: is that ip should be use has gateway? >Question 2: I just can't ping "inter-segment" through the bridge. >Question 3: Can it be a subnet mask related problem ? (using 255.255.255.0) > >Thks. I'm sorry, but the network bridge can't do what you want. Its purpose is to combine two or more physical network segments into a single logical network segment with a single IP subnet. It can only have one IP address, not one in each network. I've written a web page with details: XP ICS - Network Bridge http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...workbridge.htm You need a hardware or software router to move traffic between different segments/subnets. Why are you using the 102.0.0.x? That's a range of public IP addresses, and using it could block access to some Internet sites. These ranges are reserved for use in private networks: 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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thks for replies,
What about RRAS and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip \Parameters subkey : "IPEnableRouter" .... Any software router suggestion ? "Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote: > In article <5F6AACFC-F7B7-498D-B2F7-E2E274BF6C9C@microsoft.com>, > Michel <Michel@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >Hi, I'm trying to make the network bridging functionnality to work between > >two networks (wired) that have different IP segments. My understading is that > >it should work but it doesn't. I'm using XP sp2 with 2 NIC. On one side I use > >172.16.12.x and on the other side 102.0.0.x I set up NIC and create a > >bridge. Bridge is created and both NIC are attached. The bridge grab an IP > >from one DHCP at 172.16.12.x . > >Question 1: is that ip should be use has gateway? > >Question 2: I just can't ping "inter-segment" through the bridge. > >Question 3: Can it be a subnet mask related problem ? (using 255.255.255.0) > > > >Thks. > > I'm sorry, but the network bridge can't do what you want. Its purpose > is to combine two or more physical network segments into a single > logical network segment with a single IP subnet. It can only have one > IP address, not one in each network. I've written a web page with > details: > > XP ICS - Network Bridge > http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...workbridge.htm > > You need a hardware or software router to move traffic between > different segments/subnets. > > Why are you using the 102.0.0.x? That's a range of public IP > addresses, and using it could block access to some Internet sites. > These ranges are reserved for use in private networks: > > 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 > 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 > 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 > -- > Best Wishes, > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) > > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. > > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com > |
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Yes:
1. Kill the bridge 2. Set IPEnableRouter to 1. 3. Clients on the 172.16.12.x network need a default gateway or static route which points to the 172.16.12.x IP of the 2 NIC machine. And, clients on the 102.0.0.x network need a default gateway or static route which points to the 102.0.0.x IP of the 2 NIC machine. Doug Sherman MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP "Michel" <Michel@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7120D9BE-EFBB-4591-975C-7C540BBA5C6E@microsoft.com... > thks for replies, > What about RRAS and > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip \Parameters > subkey : "IPEnableRouter" > ... > Any software router suggestion ? > > > "Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote: > > > In article <5F6AACFC-F7B7-498D-B2F7-E2E274BF6C9C@microsoft.com>, > > Michel <Michel@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >Hi, I'm trying to make the network bridging functionnality to work between > > >two networks (wired) that have different IP segments. My understading is that > > >it should work but it doesn't. I'm using XP sp2 with 2 NIC. On one side I use > > >172.16.12.x and on the other side 102.0.0.x I set up NIC and create a > > >bridge. Bridge is created and both NIC are attached. The bridge grab an IP > > >from one DHCP at 172.16.12.x . > > >Question 1: is that ip should be use has gateway? > > >Question 2: I just can't ping "inter-segment" through the bridge. > > >Question 3: Can it be a subnet mask related problem ? (using 255.255.255.0) > > > > > >Thks. > > > > I'm sorry, but the network bridge can't do what you want. Its purpose > > is to combine two or more physical network segments into a single > > logical network segment with a single IP subnet. It can only have one > > IP address, not one in each network. I've written a web page with > > details: > > > > XP ICS - Network Bridge > > http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...workbridge.htm > > > > You need a hardware or software router to move traffic between > > different segments/subnets. > > > > Why are you using the 102.0.0.x? That's a range of public IP > > addresses, and using it could block access to some Internet sites. > > These ranges are reserved for use in private networks: > > > > 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 > > 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 > > 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 > > -- > > Best Wishes, > > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) > > > > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group > > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions > > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. > > > > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com > > |
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