home network on office computer w/d...

Hi,

I am new to the networking world. I have my office laptop which is part
of a domain. I also have another laptop at home and a desktop at home. I
have wireless internet through a router at home. Now, I want to setup a
home network to transfer files easily between the three computers. How
can I do this? I will really appreciate if someone can point me in the
right direction. a google search yielded:

1. Something about choosing workgroup over domain, but my laptop is
already part of a domain. Can I have both?

thanks,

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:13:52 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>I am new to the networking world. I have my office laptop which is part
>of a domain. I also have another laptop at home and a desktop at home. I
>have wireless internet through a router at home. Now, I want to setup a
>home network to transfer files easily between the three computers. How
>can I do this? I will really appreciate if someone can point me in the
>right direction. a google search yielded:
>
>1. Something about choosing workgroup over domain, but my laptop is
>already part of a domain. Can I have both?
>
>thanks,

Do you have wireless Internet working for the office laptop, when it's at home?
That's the key. Start with this article, which should cover the physical
connectivity issues.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/have-laptop-will-travel.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ll-travel.html

Now, the office laptop can work just as well being a domain member, and
accessing your home workgroup, as joining the workgroup. You won't see the
other computers in Network Neighborhood, but they will be there. There are
several other connects that you may need to know about, though, so read this
article too.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etworking.html

And please - save yourself (and your LAN admin) a lot of work. Don't go joining
the laptop to the workgroup. If you do that, you'll have to rejoin the domain
when you take the laptop back to your office.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

Chuck wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:13:52 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>I am new to the networking world. I have my office laptop which is part
>>of a domain. I also have another laptop at home and a desktop at home. I
>>have wireless internet through a router at home. Now, I want to setup a
>>home network to transfer files easily between the three computers. How
>>can I do this? I will really appreciate if someone can point me in the
>>right direction. a google search yielded:
>>
>>1. Something about choosing workgroup over domain, but my laptop is
>>already part of a domain. Can I have both?
>>
>>thanks,
>
>
> Do you have wireless Internet working for the office laptop, when it's at home?
> That's the key. Start with this article, which should cover the physical
> connectivity issues.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/have-laptop-will-travel.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ll-travel.html
>
> Now, the office laptop can work just as well being a domain member, and
> accessing your home workgroup, as joining the workgroup. You won't see the
> other computers in Network Neighborhood, but they will be there. There are
> several other connects that you may need to know about, though, so read this
> article too.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etworking.html
>
> And please - save yourself (and your LAN admin) a lot of work. Don't go joining
> the laptop to the workgroup. If you do that, you'll have to rejoin the domain
> when you take the laptop back to your office.
>
okay, unfortunately by the time I read your message, I had already
messed up my network such that it lost the domain. My sys admin was king
enough to explain me and config my domain again.

Another question: I have a wireless card on my notebook. My modem goes
through a router. I want to connect my desktop to the laptop (with the
domain) through a network cable such that I dont have to bring the cable
from the modem to the desktop. Now sure how to do this.

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:34:39 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>Chuck wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:13:52 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>I am new to the networking world. I have my office laptop which is part
>>>of a domain. I also have another laptop at home and a desktop at home. I
>>>have wireless internet through a router at home. Now, I want to setup a
>>>home network to transfer files easily between the three computers. How
>>>can I do this? I will really appreciate if someone can point me in the
>>>right direction. a google search yielded:
>>>
>>>1. Something about choosing workgroup over domain, but my laptop is
>>>already part of a domain. Can I have both?
>>>
>>>thanks,
>>
>>
>> Do you have wireless Internet working for the office laptop, when it's at home?
>> That's the key. Start with this article, which should cover the physical
>> connectivity issues.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/have-laptop-will-travel.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ll-travel.html
>>
>> Now, the office laptop can work just as well being a domain member, and
>> accessing your home workgroup, as joining the workgroup. You won't see the
>> other computers in Network Neighborhood, but they will be there. There are
>> several other connects that you may need to know about, though, so read this
>> article too.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etworking.html
>>
>> And please - save yourself (and your LAN admin) a lot of work. Don't go joining
>> the laptop to the workgroup. If you do that, you'll have to rejoin the domain
>> when you take the laptop back to your office.
>>
>okay, unfortunately by the time I read your message, I had already
>messed up my network such that it lost the domain. My sys admin was king
>enough to explain me and config my domain again.
>
>Another question: I have a wireless card on my notebook. My modem goes
>through a router. I want to connect my desktop to the laptop (with the
>domain) through a network cable such that I dont have to bring the cable
> from the modem to the desktop. Now sure how to do this.

First, learn the difference between physical connection (using either Ethernet
or WiFi), and Windows Networking / file sharing authentication using domain
membership.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etworking.html
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html

Now, how do you intend to use the wireless card on the notebook? What will it
connect to?

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

Chuck wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:34:39 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>>Chuck wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:13:52 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I am new to the networking world. I have my office laptop which is
part
>>>>of a domain. I also have another laptop at home and a desktop at
home. I
>>>>have wireless internet through a router at home. Now, I want to
setup a
>>>>home network to transfer files easily between the three computers. How
>>>>can I do this? I will really appreciate if someone can point me in the
>>>>right direction. a google search yielded:
>>>>
>>>>1. Something about choosing workgroup over domain, but my laptop is
>>>>already part of a domain. Can I have both?
>>>>
>>>>thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>Do you have wireless Internet working for the office laptop, when
it's at home?
>>>That's the key. Start with this article, which should cover the
physical
>>>connectivity issues.
>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/have-laptop-will-travel.html>
>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ll-travel.html
>>>
>>>Now, the office laptop can work just as well being a domain member, and
>>>accessing your home workgroup, as joining the workgroup. You won't
see the
>>>other computers in Network Neighborhood, but they will be there.
There are
>>>several other connects that you may need to know about, though, so
read this
>>>article too.
>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etworking.html
>>>
>>>And please - save yourself (and your LAN admin) a lot of work.
Don't go joining
>>>the laptop to the workgroup. If you do that, you'll have to rejoin
the domain
>>>when you take the laptop back to your office.
>>>
>>
>>okay, unfortunately by the time I read your message, I had already
>>messed up my network such that it lost the domain. My sys admin was king
>>enough to explain me and config my domain again.
>>
>>Another question: I have a wireless card on my notebook. My modem goes
>>through a router. I want to connect my desktop to the laptop (with the
>>domain) through a network cable such that I dont have to bring the cable
>> from the modem to the desktop. Now sure how to do this.
>
>
> First, learn the difference between physical connection (using either
Ethernet
> or WiFi), and Windows Networking / file sharing authentication using
domain
> membership.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etworking.html
>
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html
>
> Now, how do you intend to use the wireless card on the notebook?
What will it
> connect to?
>

Okay, let me restate the whole thing along with what I have learnt from
the two links above.

There are two things that I want to accomplish:

1. Access internet from my desktop by using a network cable connected to
a notebook which connects to the internet using wireless router. I
thought this would be possible by simply connecting the two computer via
a network cable but...

2. Setup a small wireless home network to share files between 2
notebooks and the desktop.


Now, what do I have:

one notebook win xp part of a domain, XYZ. Simple file sharing is turned
on.
another notebook win xp, workgroup XYZ
one desktop with xp home, workgroup XYZ

I understand that each computer will have a different ip address
assigned to it by the router.


I read somewhere that I can setup a ICS. I tried sharing my wireless
network on the notebook Network properties>advanced tools>settings. Maybe
I did not enable all the options needed, but after connecting the
notebook to the desktop via a network cable, I could nont access the
network (internet) from the desktop while it was working fine on the
notebook. The network cable port on the notebook was lighted red, while
it was green on the desktop.

This is all I have. How to proceed? I really appreciate your help.

On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:38:35 -0600, ab <nospam-007@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>Chuck wrote:
> > On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:34:39 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@nospam.hotmail.com>
>wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Chuck wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:13:52 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@nospam.hotmail.com>
>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>>I am new to the networking world. I have my office laptop which is
>part
> >>>>of a domain. I also have another laptop at home and a desktop at
>home. I
> >>>>have wireless internet through a router at home. Now, I want to
>setup a
> >>>>home network to transfer files easily between the three computers. How
> >>>>can I do this? I will really appreciate if someone can point me in the
> >>>>right direction. a google search yielded:
> >>>>
> >>>>1. Something about choosing workgroup over domain, but my laptop is
> >>>>already part of a domain. Can I have both?
> >>>>
> >>>>thanks,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Do you have wireless Internet working for the office laptop, when
>it's at home?
> >>>That's the key. Start with this article, which should cover the
>physical
> >>>connectivity issues.
> >>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/have-laptop-will-travel.html>
> >>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ll-travel.html
> >>>
> >>>Now, the office laptop can work just as well being a domain member, and
> >>>accessing your home workgroup, as joining the workgroup. You won't
>see the
> >>>other computers in Network Neighborhood, but they will be there.
>There are
> >>>several other connects that you may need to know about, though, so
>read this
> >>>article too.
> >>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
> >>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etworking.html
> >>>
> >>>And please - save yourself (and your LAN admin) a lot of work.
>Don't go joining
> >>>the laptop to the workgroup. If you do that, you'll have to rejoin
>the domain
> >>>when you take the laptop back to your office.
> >>>
> >>
> >>okay, unfortunately by the time I read your message, I had already
> >>messed up my network such that it lost the domain. My sys admin was king
> >>enough to explain me and config my domain again.
> >>
> >>Another question: I have a wireless card on my notebook. My modem goes
> >>through a router. I want to connect my desktop to the laptop (with the
> >>domain) through a network cable such that I dont have to bring the cable
> >> from the modem to the desktop. Now sure how to do this.
> >
> >
> > First, learn the difference between physical connection (using either
>Ethernet
> > or WiFi), and Windows Networking / file sharing authentication using
>domain
> > membership.
> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etworking.html
> >
><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html
> >
> > Now, how do you intend to use the wireless card on the notebook?
>What will it
> > connect to?
> >
>
>Okay, let me restate the whole thing along with what I have learnt from
>the two links above.
>
>There are two things that I want to accomplish:
>
>1. Access internet from my desktop by using a network cable connected to
> a notebook which connects to the internet using wireless router. I
>thought this would be possible by simply connecting the two computer via
>a network cable but...
>
>2. Setup a small wireless home network to share files between 2
>notebooks and the desktop.
>
>
>Now, what do I have:
>
>one notebook win xp part of a domain, XYZ. Simple file sharing is turned
>on.
>another notebook win xp, workgroup XYZ
>one desktop with xp home, workgroup XYZ
>
>I understand that each computer will have a different ip address
>assigned to it by the router.
>
>
>I read somewhere that I can setup a ICS. I tried sharing my wireless
>network on the notebook Network properties>advanced tools>settings. Maybe
>I did not enable all the options needed, but after connecting the
>notebook to the desktop via a network cable, I could nont access the
>network (internet) from the desktop while it was working fine on the
>notebook. The network cable port on the notebook was lighted red, while
>it was green on the desktop.
>
>This is all I have. How to proceed? I really appreciate your help.

OK, I'm starting (just) to get the picture.

You have a total of 3 computers, a router, and a broadband modem. There are 3
possible scenarios to connect them.
1) Connect the router to the modem, and connect all 3 computers to the router.
2) Connect the router to the modem, computers 1 and 2 to the router, and the 3rd
computer to computer 1, thru a second connection.
3) Connect computer 1 to the modem, connect the router to a second connection on
computer 1, and connect computers 2 and 3 to the router.

Scenario #1 is the simplest by far. Scenario #2 is used when computer #3 can't
connect to the router. Scenario #3 is used when the modem doesn't have an
Ethernet port (either USB, or PPP/serial). When scenarios #2 and 3 are
necessary, computer #1 runs ICS to share the Internet connection.

Both scenarios #2 and 3 are hella more work than scenario #1, in the long run.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/ics-is-ok-but-you-can-do-better.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...do-better.html

Which scenario describes your network? Let's start there. First, get the
physical layout described, then we have to mix in the domain issue.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

Chuck wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:38:35 -0600, ab <nospam-007@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Chuck wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:34:39 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@nospam.hotmail.com>
>>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>Chuck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:13:52 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@nospam.hotmail.com>
>>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am new to the networking world. I have my office laptop which is
>>
>>part
>>
>>>>>>of a domain. I also have another laptop at home and a desktop at
>>
>>home. I
>>
>>>>>>have wireless internet through a router at home. Now, I want to
>>
>>setup a
>>
>>>>>>home network to transfer files easily between the three computers. How
>>>>>>can I do this? I will really appreciate if someone can point me in the
>>>>>>right direction. a google search yielded:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. Something about choosing workgroup over domain, but my laptop is
>>>>>>already part of a domain. Can I have both?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Do you have wireless Internet working for the office laptop, when
>>
>>it's at home?
>>
>>>>>That's the key. Start with this article, which should cover the
>>
>>physical
>>
>>>>>connectivity issues.
>>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/have-laptop-will-travel.html>
>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ll-travel.html
>>>>>
>>>>>Now, the office laptop can work just as well being a domain member, and
>>>>>accessing your home workgroup, as joining the workgroup. You won't
>>
>>see the
>>
>>>>>other computers in Network Neighborhood, but they will be there.
>>
>>There are
>>
>>>>>several other connects that you may need to know about, though, so
>>
>>read this
>>
>>>>>article too.
>>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etworking.html
>>>>>
>>>>>And please - save yourself (and your LAN admin) a lot of work.
>>
>>Don't go joining
>>
>>>>>the laptop to the workgroup. If you do that, you'll have to rejoin
>>
>>the domain
>>
>>>>>when you take the laptop back to your office.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>okay, unfortunately by the time I read your message, I had already
>>>>messed up my network such that it lost the domain. My sys admin was king
>>>>enough to explain me and config my domain again.
>>>>
>>>>Another question: I have a wireless card on my notebook. My modem goes
>>>>through a router. I want to connect my desktop to the laptop (with the
>>>>domain) through a network cable such that I dont have to bring the cable
>>>>from the modem to the desktop. Now sure how to do this.
>>>
>>>
>>>First, learn the difference between physical connection (using either
>>
>>Ethernet
>>
>>>or WiFi), and Windows Networking / file sharing authentication using
>>
>>domain
>>
>>>membership.
>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etworking.html
>>>
>>
>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
>>
>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html
>>>
>>>Now, how do you intend to use the wireless card on the notebook?
>>
>>What will it
>>
>>>connect to?
>>>
>>
>>Okay, let me restate the whole thing along with what I have learnt from
>>the two links above.
>>
>>There are two things that I want to accomplish:
>>
>>1. Access internet from my desktop by using a network cable connected to
>> a notebook which connects to the internet using wireless router. I
>>thought this would be possible by simply connecting the two computer via
>>a network cable but...
>>
>>2. Setup a small wireless home network to share files between 2
>>notebooks and the desktop.
>>
>>
>>Now, what do I have:
>>
>>one notebook win xp part of a domain, XYZ. Simple file sharing is turned
>>on.
>>another notebook win xp, workgroup XYZ
>>one desktop with xp home, workgroup XYZ
>>
>>I understand that each computer will have a different ip address
>>assigned to it by the router.
>>
>>
>>I read somewhere that I can setup a ICS. I tried sharing my wireless
>>network on the notebook Network properties>advanced tools>settings. Maybe
>>I did not enable all the options needed, but after connecting the
>>notebook to the desktop via a network cable, I could nont access the
>>network (internet) from the desktop while it was working fine on the
>>notebook. The network cable port on the notebook was lighted red, while
>>it was green on the desktop.
>>
>>This is all I have. How to proceed? I really appreciate your help.
>
>
> OK, I'm starting (just) to get the picture.
>
> You have a total of 3 computers, a router, and a broadband modem. There are 3
> possible scenarios to connect them.
> 1) Connect the router to the modem, and connect all 3 computers to the router.
> 2) Connect the router to the modem, computers 1 and 2 to the router, and the 3rd
> computer to computer 1, thru a second connection.
> 3) Connect computer 1 to the modem, connect the router to a second connection on
> computer 1, and connect computers 2 and 3 to the router.
>
> Scenario #1 is the simplest by far. Scenario #2 is used when computer #3 can't
> connect to the router. Scenario #3 is used when the modem doesn't have an
> Ethernet port (either USB, or PPP/serial). When scenarios #2 and 3 are
> necessary, computer #1 runs ICS to share the Internet connection.
>
> Both scenarios #2 and 3 are hella more work than scenario #1, in the long run.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/ics-is-ok-but-you-can-do-better.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...do-better.html
>
> Which scenario describes your network? Let's start there. First, get the
> physical layout described, then we have to mix in the domain issue.
>
Currently, I have all three computers connected to the modem
individually. The workgroup on two of them is the same as the domain on
one. Now, do I have to share specific folders in order to see these
computers on the others?

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 22:17:31 -0600, ab <nospam-007@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>Chuck wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:38:35 -0600, ab <nospam-007@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Chuck wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:34:39 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@nospam.hotmail.com>
>>>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Chuck wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:13:52 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@nospam.hotmail.com>
>>>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am new to the networking world. I have my office laptop which is
>>>
>>>part
>>>
>>>>>>>of a domain. I also have another laptop at home and a desktop at
>>>
>>>home. I
>>>
>>>>>>>have wireless internet through a router at home. Now, I want to
>>>
>>>setup a
>>>
>>>>>>>home network to transfer files easily between the three computers. How
>>>>>>>can I do this? I will really appreciate if someone can point me in the
>>>>>>>right direction. a google search yielded:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1. Something about choosing workgroup over domain, but my laptop is
>>>>>>>already part of a domain. Can I have both?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Do you have wireless Internet working for the office laptop, when
>>>
>>>it's at home?
>>>
>>>>>>That's the key. Start with this article, which should cover the
>>>
>>>physical
>>>
>>>>>>connectivity issues.
>>>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/have-laptop-will-travel.html>
>>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ll-travel.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Now, the office laptop can work just as well being a domain member, and
>>>>>>accessing your home workgroup, as joining the workgroup. You won't
>>>
>>>see the
>>>
>>>>>>other computers in Network Neighborhood, but they will be there.
>>>
>>>There are
>>>
>>>>>>several other connects that you may need to know about, though, so
>>>
>>>read this
>>>
>>>>>>article too.
>>>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
>>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etworking.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And please - save yourself (and your LAN admin) a lot of work.
>>>
>>>Don't go joining
>>>
>>>>>>the laptop to the workgroup. If you do that, you'll have to rejoin
>>>
>>>the domain
>>>
>>>>>>when you take the laptop back to your office.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>okay, unfortunately by the time I read your message, I had already
>>>>>messed up my network such that it lost the domain. My sys admin was king
>>>>>enough to explain me and config my domain again.
>>>>>
>>>>>Another question: I have a wireless card on my notebook. My modem goes
>>>>>through a router. I want to connect my desktop to the laptop (with the
>>>>>domain) through a network cable such that I dont have to bring the cable
>>>>>from the modem to the desktop. Now sure how to do this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>First, learn the difference between physical connection (using either
>>>
>>>Ethernet
>>>
>>>>or WiFi), and Windows Networking / file sharing authentication using
>>>
>>>domain
>>>
>>>>membership.
>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etworking.html
>>>>
>>>
>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
>>>
>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html
>>>>
>>>>Now, how do you intend to use the wireless card on the notebook?
>>>
>>>What will it
>>>
>>>>connect to?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Okay, let me restate the whole thing along with what I have learnt from
>>>the two links above.
>>>
>>>There are two things that I want to accomplish:
>>>
>>>1. Access internet from my desktop by using a network cable connected to
>>> a notebook which connects to the internet using wireless router. I
>>>thought this would be possible by simply connecting the two computer via
>>>a network cable but...
>>>
>>>2. Setup a small wireless home network to share files between 2
>>>notebooks and the desktop.
>>>
>>>
>>>Now, what do I have:
>>>
>>>one notebook win xp part of a domain, XYZ. Simple file sharing is turned
>>>on.
>>>another notebook win xp, workgroup XYZ
>>>one desktop with xp home, workgroup XYZ
>>>
>>>I understand that each computer will have a different ip address
>>>assigned to it by the router.
>>>
>>>
>>>I read somewhere that I can setup a ICS. I tried sharing my wireless
>>>network on the notebook Network properties>advanced tools>settings. Maybe
>>>I did not enable all the options needed, but after connecting the
>>>notebook to the desktop via a network cable, I could nont access the
>>>network (internet) from the desktop while it was working fine on the
>>>notebook. The network cable port on the notebook was lighted red, while
>>>it was green on the desktop.
>>>
>>>This is all I have. How to proceed? I really appreciate your help.
>>
>>
>> OK, I'm starting (just) to get the picture.
>>
>> You have a total of 3 computers, a router, and a broadband modem. There are 3
>> possible scenarios to connect them.
>> 1) Connect the router to the modem, and connect all 3 computers to the router.
>> 2) Connect the router to the modem, computers 1 and 2 to the router, and the 3rd
>> computer to computer 1, thru a second connection.
>> 3) Connect computer 1 to the modem, connect the router to a second connection on
>> computer 1, and connect computers 2 and 3 to the router.
>>
>> Scenario #1 is the simplest by far. Scenario #2 is used when computer #3 can't
>> connect to the router. Scenario #3 is used when the modem doesn't have an
>> Ethernet port (either USB, or PPP/serial). When scenarios #2 and 3 are
>> necessary, computer #1 runs ICS to share the Internet connection.
>>
>> Both scenarios #2 and 3 are hella more work than scenario #1, in the long run.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/ics-is-ok-but-you-can-do-better.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...do-better.html
>>
>> Which scenario describes your network? Let's start there. First, get the
>> physical layout described, then we have to mix in the domain issue.
>>
>Currently, I have all three computers connected to the modem
>individually. The workgroup on two of them is the same as the domain on
>one. Now, do I have to share specific folders in order to see these
>computers on the others?

You have to have A share on any computer that you wish to be seen from any
others. Whether it's a default (admin) share, or a root share that you setup,
or a specific folder share that you setup, is your decision.

Now, if you have 3 computers with individual direct connections to the modem,
are you paying for 3 accounts from the ISP? If so, you may wish to read this
article:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/one-unique-case-where-ipxspx-may-help.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-may-help.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

Chuck wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 22:17:31 -0600, ab <nospam-007@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Chuck wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:38:35 -0600, ab <nospam-007@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Chuck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:34:39 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@nospam.hotmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Chuck wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:13:52 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@nospam.hotmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I am new to the networking world. I have my office laptop which is
>>>>
>>>>part
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>of a domain. I also have another laptop at home and a desktop at
>>>>
>>>>home. I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>have wireless internet through a router at home. Now, I want to
>>>>
>>>>setup a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>home network to transfer files easily between the three computers. How
>>>>>>>>can I do this? I will really appreciate if someone can point me in the
>>>>>>>>right direction. a google search yielded:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>1. Something about choosing workgroup over domain, but my laptop is
>>>>>>>>already part of a domain. Can I have both?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Do you have wireless Internet working for the office laptop, when
>>>>
>>>>it's at home?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>That's the key. Start with this article, which should cover the
>>>>
>>>>physical
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>connectivity issues.
>>>>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/have-laptop-will-travel.html>
>>>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ll-travel.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Now, the office laptop can work just as well being a domain member, and
>>>>>>>accessing your home workgroup, as joining the workgroup. You won't
>>>>
>>>>see the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>other computers in Network Neighborhood, but they will be there.
>>>>
>>>>There are
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>several other connects that you may need to know about, though, so
>>>>
>>>>read this
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>article too.
>>>>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
>>>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etworking.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And please - save yourself (and your LAN admin) a lot of work.
>>>>
>>>>Don't go joining
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>the laptop to the workgroup. If you do that, you'll have to rejoin
>>>>
>>>>the domain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>when you take the laptop back to your office.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>okay, unfortunately by the time I read your message, I had already
>>>>>>messed up my network such that it lost the domain. My sys admin was king
>>>>>>enough to explain me and config my domain again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Another question: I have a wireless card on my notebook. My modem goes
>>>>>>through a router. I want to connect my desktop to the laptop (with the
>>>>>>domain) through a network cable such that I dont have to bring the cable
>>>>>
>>>>>>from the modem to the desktop. Now sure how to do this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>First, learn the difference between physical connection (using either
>>>>
>>>>Ethernet
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>or WiFi), and Windows Networking / file sharing authentication using
>>>>
>>>>domain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>membership.
>>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etworking.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
>>>>
>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html
>>>>>
>>>>>Now, how do you intend to use the wireless card on the notebook?
>>>>
>>>>What will it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>connect to?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Okay, let me restate the whole thing along with what I have learnt from
>>>>the two links above.
>>>>
>>>>There are two things that I want to accomplish:
>>>>
>>>>1. Access internet from my desktop by using a network cable connected to
>>>>a notebook which connects to the internet using wireless router. I
>>>>thought this would be possible by simply connecting the two computer via
>>>>a network cable but...
>>>>
>>>>2. Setup a small wireless home network to share files between 2
>>>>notebooks and the desktop.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Now, what do I have:
>>>>
>>>>one notebook win xp part of a domain, XYZ. Simple file sharing is turned
>>>>on.
>>>>another notebook win xp, workgroup XYZ
>>>>one desktop with xp home, workgroup XYZ
>>>>
>>>>I understand that each computer will have a different ip address
>>>>assigned to it by the router.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I read somewhere that I can setup a ICS. I tried sharing my wireless
>>>>network on the notebook Network properties>advanced tools>settings. Maybe
>>>>I did not enable all the options needed, but after connecting the
>>>>notebook to the desktop via a network cable, I could nont access the
>>>>network (internet) from the desktop while it was working fine on the
>>>>notebook. The network cable port on the notebook was lighted red, while
>>>>it was green on the desktop.
>>>>
>>>>This is all I have. How to proceed? I really appreciate your help.
>>>
>>>
>>>OK, I'm starting (just) to get the picture.
>>>
>>>You have a total of 3 computers, a router, and a broadband modem. There are 3
>>>possible scenarios to connect them.
>>>1) Connect the router to the modem, and connect all 3 computers to the router.
>>>2) Connect the router to the modem, computers 1 and 2 to the router, and the 3rd
>>>computer to computer 1, thru a second connection.
>>>3) Connect computer 1 to the modem, connect the router to a second connection on
>>>computer 1, and connect computers 2 and 3 to the router.
>>>
>>>Scenario #1 is the simplest by far. Scenario #2 is used when computer #3 can't
>>>connect to the router. Scenario #3 is used when the modem doesn't have an
>>>Ethernet port (either USB, or PPP/serial). When scenarios #2 and 3 are
>>>necessary, computer #1 runs ICS to share the Internet connection.
>>>
>>>Both scenarios #2 and 3 are hella more work than scenario #1, in the long run.
>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/ics-is-ok-but-you-can-do-better.html>
>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...do-better.html
>>>
>>>Which scenario describes your network? Let's start there. First, get the
>>>physical layout described, then we have to mix in the domain issue.
>>>
>>
>>Currently, I have all three computers connected to the modem
>>individually. The workgroup on two of them is the same as the domain on
>>one. Now, do I have to share specific folders in order to see these
>>computers on the others?
>
>
> You have to have A share on any computer that you wish to be seen from any
> others. Whether it's a default (admin) share, or a root share that you setup,
> or a specific folder share that you setup, is your decision.
>
> Now, if you have 3 computers with individual direct connections to the modem,
> are you paying for 3 accounts from the ISP? If so, you may wish to read this
> article:
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/one-unique-case-where-ipxspx-may-help.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-may-help.html
>

I misspoke, I have a modem and a router. The three computers are
connected to the router (so one ip address and one check to the isp).

I created a share on the desktop with permissions to share over the
network. I can see the two other computers, notebook1 and notebook2,
from this computer but cannot connect to any of them.

I created a share on notebook1, permissions to share over the network. I
cannot see any of the two other computers from this notebook.

On the share on notebook2 (the one with the domain), I am having trouble
enabling the permissions, I have on the sharing tab,

share this folder with 3 users.
under permissions> Add> asks to select user groups. Under location, it
shows only the notebook2 name.

From notebook2, I could not see any of the two computers. On right
click on My Network places> search for computers> I found notebook1 but
on connecting to it, an error message came : \\notebook1 is not
accessible. You may not have permission to use this network resource.
A similar thing happened for the desktop also, I found it but was unable
to connect to it.

I think there is a setting somewhere to allow the computers to share
their folders which i have not enabled.

Thanks for your help,

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 11:45:34 -0600, ab <nospam-007@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>Chuck wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 22:17:31 -0600, ab <nospam-007@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Chuck wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:38:35 -0600, ab <nospam-007@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Chuck wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:34:39 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@nospam.hotmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chuck wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:13:52 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@nospam.hotmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I am new to the networking world. I have my office laptop which is
>>>>>
>>>>>part
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>of a domain. I also have another laptop at home and a desktop at
>>>>>
>>>>>home. I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>have wireless internet through a router at home. Now, I want to
>>>>>
>>>>>setup a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>home network to transfer files easily between the three computers. How
>>>>>>>>>can I do this? I will really appreciate if someone can point me in the
>>>>>>>>>right direction. a google search yielded:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>1. Something about choosing workgroup over domain, but my laptop is
>>>>>>>>>already part of a domain. Can I have both?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Do you have wireless Internet working for the office laptop, when
>>>>>
>>>>>it's at home?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That's the key. Start with this article, which should cover the
>>>>>
>>>>>physical
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>connectivity issues.
>>>>>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/have-laptop-will-travel.html>
>>>>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ll-travel.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Now, the office laptop can work just as well being a domain member, and
>>>>>>>>accessing your home workgroup, as joining the workgroup. You won't
>>>>>
>>>>>see the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>other computers in Network Neighborhood, but they will be there.
>>>>>
>>>>>There are
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>several other connects that you may need to know about, though, so
>>>>>
>>>>>read this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>article too.
>>>>>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
>>>>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etworking.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And please - save yourself (and your LAN admin) a lot of work.
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't go joining
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the laptop to the workgroup. If you do that, you'll have to rejoin
>>>>>
>>>>>the domain
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>when you take the laptop back to your office.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>okay, unfortunately by the time I read your message, I had already
>>>>>>>messed up my network such that it lost the domain. My sys admin was king
>>>>>>>enough to explain me and config my domain again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Another question: I have a wireless card on my notebook. My modem goes
>>>>>>>through a router. I want to connect my desktop to the laptop (with the
>>>>>>>domain) through a network cable such that I dont have to bring the cable
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>from the modem to the desktop. Now sure how to do this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>First, learn the difference between physical connection (using either
>>>>>
>>>>>Ethernet
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>or WiFi), and Windows Networking / file sharing authentication using
>>>>>
>>>>>domain
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>membership.
>>>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
>>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etworking.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
>>>>>
>>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Now, how do you intend to use the wireless card on the notebook?
>>>>>
>>>>>What will it
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>connect to?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Okay, let me restate the whole thing along with what I have learnt from
>>>>>the two links above.
>>>>>
>>>>>There are two things that I want to accomplish:
>>>>>
>>>>>1. Access internet from my desktop by using a network cable connected to
>>>>>a notebook which connects to the internet using wireless router. I
>>>>>thought this would be possible by simply connecting the two computer via
>>>>>a network cable but...
>>>>>
>>>>>2. Setup a small wireless home network to share files between 2
>>>>>notebooks and the desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Now, what do I have:
>>>>>
>>>>>one notebook win xp part of a domain, XYZ. Simple file sharing is turned
>>>>>on.
>>>>>another notebook win xp, workgroup XYZ
>>>>>one desktop with xp home, workgroup XYZ
>>>>>
>>>>>I understand that each computer will have a different ip address
>>>>>assigned to it by the router.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I read somewhere that I can setup a ICS. I tried sharing my wireless
>>>>>network on the notebook Network properties>advanced tools>settings. Maybe
>>>>>I did not enable all the options needed, but after connecting the
>>>>>notebook to the desktop via a network cable, I could nont access the
>>>>>network (internet) from the desktop while it was working fine on the
>>>>>notebook. The network cable port on the notebook was lighted red, while
>>>>>it was green on the desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>>This is all I have. How to proceed? I really appreciate your help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>OK, I'm starting (just) to get the picture.
>>>>
>>>>You have a total of 3 computers, a router, and a broadband modem. There are 3
>>>>possible scenarios to connect them.
>>>>1) Connect the router to the modem, and connect all 3 computers to the router.
>>>>2) Connect the router to the modem, computers 1 and 2 to the router, and the 3rd
>>>>computer to computer 1, thru a second connection.
>>>>3) Connect computer 1 to the modem, connect the router to a second connection on
>>>>computer 1, and connect computers 2 and 3 to the router.
>>>>
>>>>Scenario #1 is the simplest by far. Scenario #2 is used when computer #3 can't
>>>>connect to the router. Scenario #3 is used when the modem doesn't have an
>>>>Ethernet port (either USB, or PPP/serial). When scenarios #2 and 3 are
>>>>necessary, computer #1 runs ICS to share the Internet connection.
>>>>
>>>>Both scenarios #2 and 3 are hella more work than scenario #1, in the long run.
>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/ics-is-ok-but-you-can-do-better.html>
>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...do-better.html
>>>>
>>>>Which scenario describes your network? Let's start there. First, get the
>>>>physical layout described, then we have to mix in the domain issue.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Currently, I have all three computers connected to the modem
>>>individually. The workgroup on two of them is the same as the domain on
>>>one. Now, do I have to share specific folders in order to see these
>>>computers on the others?
>>
>>
>> You have to have A share on any computer that you wish to be seen from any
>> others. Whether it's a default (admin) share, or a root share that you setup,
>> or a specific folder share that you setup, is your decision.
>>
>> Now, if you have 3 computers with individual direct connections to the modem,
>> are you paying for 3 accounts from the ISP? If so, you may wish to read this
>> article:
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/one-unique-case-where-ipxspx-may-help.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-may-help.html
>>
>
>I misspoke, I have a modem and a router. The three computers are
>connected to the router (so one ip address and one check to the isp).
>
>I created a share on the desktop with permissions to share over the
>network. I can see the two other computers, notebook1 and notebook2,
>from this computer but cannot connect to any of them.
>
>I created a share on notebook1, permissions to share over the network. I
>cannot see any of the two other computers from this notebook.
>
>On the share on notebook2 (the one with the domain), I am having trouble
>enabling the permissions, I have on the sharing tab,
>
>share this folder with 3 users.
>under permissions> Add> asks to select user groups. Under location, it
>shows only the notebook2 name.
>
> From notebook2, I could not see any of the two computers. On right
>click on My Network places> search for computers> I found notebook1 but
>on connecting to it, an error message came : \\notebook1 is not
>accessible. You may not have permission to use this network resource.
>A similar thing happened for the desktop also, I found it but was unable
>to connect to it.
>
>I think there is a setting somewhere to allow the computers to share
>their folders which i have not enabled.
>
>Thanks for your help,
>
>Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too. It's good to use the classical
greeting that captures the real Holiday spirit.

Thanks, I'm glad you're behind a router. That makes this whole thing hella
easier. And you're safer.

OK, you're down to the "...not accessible...not have permission...." bit.
That's well known here. The usual problem is a misconfigured or overlooked
firewall, but there are other possibilities too.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html

If no help yet, provide "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from each
computer, so we can diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.