On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:12:03 -0800, "Kier Devin"
<KierDevin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>
>
>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 20:58:02 -0800, "Kier Devin"
>> <KierDevin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >"Kier Devin" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Chuck" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 18:46:02 -0800, "Kier Devin"
>> >> > <KierDevin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 17:19:30 -0800, "Kier Devin"
>> >> > >> <KierDevin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >> On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 08:59:01 -0800, "Kier Devin" <Kier
>> >> > >> >> Devin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> >I am running xp home on two computers, and have them connected with a
>> >> > >> >> >crossover cable. MAinly set up for playing games over a lan. My setup used
>> >> > >> >> >to work, but I had to format my drive, and now I can't get one of my
>> >> > >> >> >computers to setup the network right again. One computer still has all it's
>> >> > >> >> >info, and will see the other... but the one I formatted, will not find the
>> >> > >> >> >other. I was able to bring it up by going to >Start >Run and entering the ip
>> >> > >> >> >address of the working one. And I can get to the computer, but in all other
>> >> > >> >> >ways it won't acknowledge there is a network. Not through games or through
>> >> > >> >> >windows. When I try to look at the workgroup, it tells me the directory of
>> >> > >> >> >computers is not available... or something to that effect...
>> >> > >> >> >
>> >> > >> >> >I have also tried to remake the network with the wizard, and it doesn't seem
>> >> > >> >> >to do anything... the same connection that I already had is still on the
>> >> > >> >> >"network connections" screen... And I cannot find the place where I can
>> >> > >> >> >change the ip address and stuff to try and make bothe computers the same...
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> Kier,
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> There are a few reasons for the problem, which you're describing, and which is
>> >> > >> >> seen here regularly. The most common is a misconfigured or overlooked firewall,
>> >> > >> >> but there are other possibilities too.
>> >> > >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
>> >> > >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> If no help, provide "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from each computer, as
>> >> > >> >> a start. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions
>> >> > >> >> precisely:
>> >> > >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
>> >> > >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> >Okay, thanks, I tried all that, and to no avail... I'll refer to the comps
>> >> > >> >as 1 and 2... I can still access comp 2 from 1, but comp 1 will not act like
>> >> > >> >it's on the network... And I still cannot access comp 1 from 2, though comp
>> >> > >> >2 does act like it's on the network???? so here is the browstat, and ip
>> >> > >> >config for the two...
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> <SNIP>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> >I hope this may help you see what is wrong with my setup... Thanks for the
>> >> > >> >help...
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >Charles...
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Charles,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> You have 2 problems.
>> >> > >> # IPX / SPX.
>> >> > >> # IPV6.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> I'd guess you have IPX/SPX for your games playing. That's fine, though its
>> >> > >> presence may make diagnosing your problem a bit more complicated than it should
>> >> > >> be. But let's start by working on the IPV6 issue.
>> >> > >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html>
>> >> > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-clean-up.html
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> After you remove IPV6 from Jessica, post updated "browstat status" and "ipconfig
>> >> > >> /all" from both computers. We'll go from there.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> And post after my replies, please. Help me to help you.
>> >> > >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
>> >> > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...tml#TopPosting
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> --
>> >> > >> Cheers,
>> >> > >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> >> > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> >> > >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> >> > >> My email is AT DOT
>> >> > >> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Okay, I followed the instructions on that page, but for the removing IPV6...
>> >> > > I have no idea what that is, or how to remove it... the other part worked
>> >> > >fine, neig\ther computer were on the correct setting.... both are still
>> >> > >running the same though... here are the browstat and ipconfig now... they
>> >> > >look the same to me...???
>>
>> <SNIP>
>>
>> >> > >C:\browstat>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Thanks again for the help...
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Charles...
>> >> >
>> >> > Charles,
>> >> >
>> >> > Removal of unnecessary protocols is simple. Just highlight the network
>> >> > component to be removed, and hit the Uninstall button below the list. Follow
>> >> > instructions, and restart the system when requested.
>> >> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html>
>> >> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-clean-up.html
>> >> >
>> >> > To get consistent results, you need to remove IPV6 before running any
>> >> > diagnostics.
>>
>> >> Okay, I think I got that part down now... I noticed the stuff on Jessi
>> >> (comp 2) changed... so here goes again...
>> >>
>> >> Kierdevin (comp 1)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> C:\browstat>browstat status
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Status for domain FUN on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
>> >> Browsing is NOT active on domain.
>> >> Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Status for domain FUN on transport \Device\NwlnkIpx
>> >> Browsing is active on domain.
>> >> Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Using \\JESSICA
>> >> Master browser is running build 2600
>> >> 1 backup servers retrieved from master JESSICA
>> >> \\JESSICA
>> >> Unable to retrieve server list from JESSICA: 1231
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Status for domain FUN on transport
>> >> \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C6ADF45C-FDA3-4D9F-99CB-
>> >> 5B52882F70FE}
>> >> Browsing is active on domain.
>> >> Master browser name is: JESSICA
>> >> Master browser is running build 2600
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Just looking over what I wrote, and realized that I put the wrong one for
>> >kierdevin (comp 1) So here is the right one... sorry...
>> >
>> >C:\browstat>browstat status
>> >
>> >
>> >Status for domain FUN on transport
>> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{5274303C-37EB-422A-A7A1-
>> >B97F5ACA959B}
>> > Browsing is NOT active on domain.
>> > Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.
>> >
>> >C:\browstat>ipconfig /all
>> >
>> >Windows IP Configuration
>> >
>> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : KIERDEVIN
>> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> >
>> >Ethernet adapter charlie:
>> >
>> > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
>> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : F5D5000, PCI Card/Desktop
>> >Network PC
>> >I Card
>> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-30-BD-B4-1F-47
>> >
>> >PPP adapter Everyones Internet:
>> >
>> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
>> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
>> > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 64.246.9.243
>> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
>> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 64.246.9.243
>> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 207.218.192.38
>> > 207.218.192.39
>>
>> Charles,
>>
>> OK, the diagnostics for Jessica are a bit cleaner. But it can only see itself.
>>
>> Maybe this is part of the problem?
>>
>> (from KIERDEVIN)
>> Ethernet adapter charlie:
>>
>> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : F5D5000, PCI Card/Desktop Network
>> PCI Card
>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-30-BD-B4-1F-47
>>
>> Charles, when you make any changes, you need to retest with both computers
>> physically connected, and functioning, as best as possible. Testing with one
>> computer not connected will waste your time. If KIERDEVIN shows "Media
>> disconnected", you're not going to get useful results.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

>Hey... Thanks for the help... I'm not sure why it said it was disconnected,
>but it wasn't??? But anyways, I was playing around with it, and it's working
>again... My games work and I can access the computers from each other
>now...??? Who knows... Thanks for all your help with this,... I definately
>know where to come next time...
>
>Thanks again...
>
>Charles...

That's great, Charles. Thanks for the feedback, and the update.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

Chuck,

I apologize, I am old and don't know how to post this properly so you
will see it. I thought I would just do a reply to this. I am having the
same problem with two pc's in a workgroup using WIN2000 PRO. I hope you
can help me too.


I am having the same problem. I am running win2k pro with sp 4.0. I am
using TCP/IP, print and file sharing for windows, Client for ms
networks and I got desperate and enabled netbeui protocol. I have tried
using static ip addresses, creating Hosts files, defining default
gateway (192.168.1.1) Sometimes I can see the other computers in the
peer to peer network and sometimes not. They are both new installs of
win2k w/ sp4. I try to map a drive on the other pc sometimes it doesn't
see the other pc, sometimes it asks me for a login and password for the
share (I use the admin login and password) but it asks me again for the
login???? I can ping the other pc I have tried to map drive using:
\\ip address\share drive. I can't even use the default share of C$.
Once I saw the other computer on the other computers around me but when
I try to click on the computer to see the shares, I get "the server is
not set up for this operation" I am peer to peer, I don't have a
server. I have looked at the services and made sure the right ones are
started.

I am at my wits end ... I don't know what else to try. I have logged
into the router and everything is ok. I even disconnected the router
and connected with a switch to eliminate the router as a problem. I
think the problem is in the software but every time I work on it the
symptoms change I can't isolate the issue.

What do you think? I have another peer to peer with 10 PCs and a mix of
wired and wireless connections working fine. This

On 27 Dec 2005 06:57:32 -0800, "thunder2k" <jlucus@fmtc.net> wrote:

>Chuck,
>
>I apologize, I am old and don't know how to post this properly so you
>will see it. I thought I would just do a reply to this. I am having the
>same problem with two pc's in a workgroup using WIN2000 PRO. I hope you
>can help me too.
>
>
>I am having the same problem. I am running win2k pro with sp 4.0. I am
>using TCP/IP, print and file sharing for windows, Client for ms
>networks and I got desperate and enabled netbeui protocol. I have tried
>using static ip addresses, creating Hosts files, defining default
>gateway (192.168.1.1) Sometimes I can see the other computers in the
>peer to peer network and sometimes not. They are both new installs of
>win2k w/ sp4. I try to map a drive on the other pc sometimes it doesn't
>see the other pc, sometimes it asks me for a login and password for the
>share (I use the admin login and password) but it asks me again for the
>login???? I can ping the other pc I have tried to map drive using:
>\\ip address\share drive. I can't even use the default share of C$.
>Once I saw the other computer on the other computers around me but when
>I try to click on the computer to see the shares, I get "the server is
>not set up for this operation" I am peer to peer, I don't have a
>server. I have looked at the services and made sure the right ones are
>started.
>
>I am at my wits end ... I don't know what else to try. I have logged
>into the router and everything is ok. I even disconnected the router
>and connected with a switch to eliminate the router as a problem. I
>think the problem is in the software but every time I work on it the
>symptoms change I can't isolate the issue.
>
>What do you think? I have another peer to peer with 10 PCs and a mix of
>wired and wireless connections working fine. This

That's OK. Just start a new thread, with a unique and descriptive Subject.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#Hijacking>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...html#Hijacking

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.