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Old 01-05-2006, 04:14 AM
JanAdam
 
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I have two computers at home, one, say named A, is running W2K pro.
B is running Win XP pro, both with all current updates. They talk to the
Internet and to each other through a D-Link router and an ADSL modem.
I have set up a small home network named Home.
The problem: I can access B from A, files and devices (printers, scanner
etc), no problem. However, when trying to access files on A from B, a dialog
box pops up asking for a user ID and a password. I have the same user
profiles (same names) set on both computers, members of the same workgroup. I
have never set any passwords for any of the user IDs.

A reading suggestion or even better a hint how to fix the problem will be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

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JanAdam
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:14 AM
JanAdam
 
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I have forgotten to add that trying to ping the other computer from both A
and B I am getting timed out reply, despite that, as I said, I can see shared
files and devices on B from A.
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JanAdam


"JanAdam" wrote:

> I have two computers at home, one, say named A, is running W2K pro.
> B is running Win XP pro, both with all current updates. They talk to the
> Internet and to each other through a D-Link router and an ADSL modem.
> I have set up a small home network named Home.
> The problem: I can access B from A, files and devices (printers, scanner
> etc), no problem. However, when trying to access files on A from B, a dialog
> box pops up asking for a user ID and a password. I have the same user
> profiles (same names) set on both computers, members of the same workgroup. I
> have never set any passwords for any of the user IDs.
>
> A reading suggestion or even better a hint how to fix the problem will be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> JanAdam

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:14 AM
Chuck
 
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 12:20:02 -0800, "JanAdam"
<JanAdam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I have two computers at home, one, say named A, is running W2K pro.
>B is running Win XP pro, both with all current updates. They talk to the
>Internet and to each other through a D-Link router and an ADSL modem.
>I have set up a small home network named Home.
>The problem: I can access B from A, files and devices (printers, scanner
>etc), no problem. However, when trying to access files on A from B, a dialog
>box pops up asking for a user ID and a password. I have the same user
>profiles (same names) set on both computers, members of the same workgroup. I
>have never set any passwords for any of the user IDs.
>
>A reading suggestion or even better a hint how to fix the problem will be
>greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks,


Have you setup the proper permissions for the data on the W2K computer? See the
authoritative Microsoft white paper linked to in this article:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#OlderOS>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...p.html#OlderOS

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Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:14 AM
Chuck
 
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 12:20:02 -0800, "JanAdam"
<JanAdam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I have two computers at home, one, say named A, is running W2K pro.
>B is running Win XP pro, both with all current updates. They talk to the
>Internet and to each other through a D-Link router and an ADSL modem.
>I have set up a small home network named Home.
>The problem: I can access B from A, files and devices (printers, scanner
>etc), no problem. However, when trying to access files on A from B, a dialog
>box pops up asking for a user ID and a password. I have the same user
>profiles (same names) set on both computers, members of the same workgroup. I
>have never set any passwords for any of the user IDs.
>
>A reading suggestion or even better a hint how to fix the problem will be
>greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks,


Have you setup the proper permissions for the data on the W2K computer? See the
authoritative Microsoft white paper linked to in this article:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#OlderOS>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...p.html#OlderOS

Also, check the password issue. Windows XP, by default, requires a non-blank
password. It's possible that A to B access is provided by Guest. Try setting
an identical, non-blank password on the account on both computers, and logging
in to each again. Or try activating the Guest account on A.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help

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Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:14 AM
JanAdam
 
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Thank you Chuck,

I will try to do my best and report later on the progress or lack of it. In
the meantime, when doing ipconfig /all I see that on my A (W2K) box I still
have an old connection showing. It was set up when my home network run
through a crossover Ethernet cable. Box *A* was then the main computer with
Internet sharing set up on it. Thus it had two connections, home and telus
(my internet provider). *A* still has two Ethernet cards on it. How to delete
the obsolete connection? In the Network and Dial-up connections it shows
*cable disconnected*, which is true of course. If right clicked, the delete
option is grey. How to delete it? Can it be the source of my trouble?

--
JanAdam


"Chuck" wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 12:20:02 -0800, "JanAdam"
> <JanAdam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >I have two computers at home, one, say named A, is running W2K pro.
> >B is running Win XP pro, both with all current updates. They talk to the
> >Internet and to each other through a D-Link router and an ADSL modem.
> >I have set up a small home network named Home.
> >The problem: I can access B from A, files and devices (printers, scanner
> >etc), no problem. However, when trying to access files on A from B, a dialog
> >box pops up asking for a user ID and a password. I have the same user
> >profiles (same names) set on both computers, members of the same workgroup. I
> >have never set any passwords for any of the user IDs.
> >
> >A reading suggestion or even better a hint how to fix the problem will be
> >greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks,

>
> Have you setup the proper permissions for the data on the W2K computer? See the
> authoritative Microsoft white paper linked to in this article:
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#OlderOS>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...p.html#OlderOS
>
> Also, check the password issue. Windows XP, by default, requires a non-blank
> password. It's possible that A to B access is provided by Guest. Try setting
> an identical, non-blank password on the account on both computers, and logging
> in to each again. Or try activating the Guest account on A.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:14 AM
Chuck
 
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:29:02 -0800, "JanAdam"
<JanAdam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Thank you Chuck,
>
>I will try to do my best and report later on the progress or lack of it. In
>the meantime, when doing ipconfig /all I see that on my A (W2K) box I still
>have an old connection showing. It was set up when my home network run
>through a crossover Ethernet cable. Box *A* was then the main computer with
>Internet sharing set up on it. Thus it had two connections, home and telus
>(my internet provider). *A* still has two Ethernet cards on it. How to delete
>the obsolete connection? In the Network and Dial-up connections it shows
>*cable disconnected*, which is true of course. If right clicked, the delete
>option is grey. How to delete it? Can it be the source of my trouble?


If Computer B is accessible, and Computer A is asking for authentication:
# You've got connectivity.
# Computer A is concerned about authentication.

I don't see an excess, maybe inactive, connection as causing an authentication
problem, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be. Did you actually stop ICS (is
that the sharing product you used?)?

Let's see "ipconfig /all" from Computer A, please. Read this article, and
linked articles, and follow instructions precisely:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:14 AM
JanAdam
 
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Here are the ip files


IP config on A:

Windows 2000 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : A
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ab.hsia.telus.net
Ethernet adapter Telus:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : ab.hsia.telus.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100+ Management Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-D0-B7-10-31-42
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.125
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 154.11.129.187
154.11.129.59
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : December 30, 2005 9:31:32 AM Lease
Expires . . . . . . . . . . : December 31, 2005 9:31:32 AM Ethernet adapter
home: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Cable Disconnected Description .
.. . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-47-12-3B-82


And on B (B is WinXP box):

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : B
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ab.hsia.telus.net
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : ab.hsia.telus.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE
Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-6E-26-17
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.188
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 154.11.129.187
154.11.129.59 Lease Obtained. . . . . . .
.. . . : 30 grudnia 2005 09:27:59 Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . :
31 grudnia 2005 09:27:59


Now I am going to read your articles. And, thanks a lot for your help.
--
JanAdam


"Chuck" wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:29:02 -0800, "JanAdam"
> <JanAdam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Thank you Chuck,
> >
> >I will try to do my best and report later on the progress or lack of it. In
> >the meantime, when doing ipconfig /all I see that on my A (W2K) box I still
> >have an old connection showing. It was set up when my home network run
> >through a crossover Ethernet cable. Box *A* was then the main computer with
> >Internet sharing set up on it. Thus it had two connections, home and telus
> >(my internet provider). *A* still has two Ethernet cards on it. How to delete
> >the obsolete connection? In the Network and Dial-up connections it shows
> >*cable disconnected*, which is true of course. If right clicked, the delete
> >option is grey. How to delete it? Can it be the source of my trouble?

>
> If Computer B is accessible, and Computer A is asking for authentication:
> # You've got connectivity.
> # Computer A is concerned about authentication.
>
> I don't see an excess, maybe inactive, connection as causing an authentication
> problem, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be. Did you actually stop ICS (is
> that the sharing product you used?)?
>
> Let's see "ipconfig /all" from Computer A, please. Read this article, and
> linked articles, and follow instructions precisely:
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>

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