Lingering questions for SP2 from MVP board

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
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> Pentium wrote:
>> Also ... DISABLE ALL firewall & Virus protection too while you're
>> loading SP2
>>
>
> Why? I've never seen either type of application cause any problems
> with a Service Pack installation.

They have caused problems installing SP2.

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Frank

The problem with telling people to disable firewall and AV is that some will
do it while accepting SP2 from WU.. hardly good advice to give somebody
still very much connected to the internet..


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"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
> news:uo6tjRD2FHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl
>> Pentium wrote:
>>> Also ... DISABLE ALL firewall & Virus protection too while you're
>>> loading SP2
>>>
>>
>> Why? I've never seen either type of application cause any problems
>> with a Service Pack installation.
>
> They have caused problems installing SP2.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE
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"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Frank
>
> The problem with telling people to disable firewall and AV is that
> some will do it while accepting SP2 from WU.. hardly good advice to
> give somebody still very much connected to the internet..

Yeah, I should have limited my response to AV programs.

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Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE wrote:
> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
> news:uo6tjRD2FHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl
>
>> Pentium wrote:
>>
>>> Also ... DISABLE ALL firewall & Virus protection too while you're
>>> loading SP2
>>>
>>
>> Why? I've never seen either type of application cause any problems
>> with a Service Pack installation.
>
>
> They have caused problems installing SP2.
>


Which ones, Frank?


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"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
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> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE wrote:
>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>> news:uo6tjRD2FHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl
>>
>>> Pentium wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also ... DISABLE ALL firewall & Virus protection too while you're
>>>> loading SP2
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why? I've never seen either type of application cause any problems
>>> with a Service Pack installation.
>>
>>
>> They have caused problems installing SP2.
>>
>
>
> Which ones, Frank?

Don't remember, but it has been our advice for years to turn off AV programs
while installing service packs.

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I always de-activate my virus and spyware protection when installing
software, even though I understand and agree that this should not be
necessary. It's just been my experience that sometimes - but not always -
software will not install right with this protection active.

[Of course, my firewall always stays on. And if I'm the least bit suspicious
about an installer I'll manually scan it before installing.]

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"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
> news:%23iWboYQ2FHA.632@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl
> > Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE wrote:
> >> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
> >> news:uo6tjRD2FHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl
> >>
> >>> Pentium wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Also ... DISABLE ALL firewall & Virus protection too while you're
> >>>> loading SP2
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Why? I've never seen either type of application cause any problems
> >>> with a Service Pack installation.
> >>
> >>
> >> They have caused problems installing SP2.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Which ones, Frank?
>
> Don't remember, but it has been our advice for years to turn off AV
programs
> while installing service packs.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE
> Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
> http://www.fjsmjs.com
> Protect your PC
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> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>
>

Found a fix for what?

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:39:47 -0400, "CGB" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

>Some kind soul responded to my questions re: Zone Alarm problems after SP2
>update. The response came from the zone alarm forums. It works.
>
>*****
>This is a glitch that happens for some, not all, with the installation of
>ZA, SP2 and Windows ... for some reason Windows gets confused with ZoneAlarm
>and Zone.Com and there are various reasons why, but there are a couple of
>solutions ... I hope this one helps ... BB
>In Windows Explorer go to My Computer > Local Disk ( C: ) > Program Files >
>Zone.Com > Zone Deluxe Games ... now drag and drop the Zone Deluxe Games
>Folder into the Folder labeled Program Files ... now delete the Zone.Com
>Folder ... Zone Alarm should now load without any problems and the Zone.Com
>Folder will not show-up any longer
>
>*************
>
>Chet
>
>
>

"Videofreak" <thisguy@lovespussycats.net> wrote in message
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> Found a fix for what?


From my note of 10/23:

Followed recommendations and installed SP2 in about 40 minutes. All went
well, except my free version of Zone Alarm stopped loading at startup. (I
had told Windows XP not to use their firewall). I uninstalled Zone Alarm
and reinstalled, now it still doesn't load at startup. Instead, I get an
open explorer window of a folder called Zone.com

I have to close this folder and go in and manually start ZoneAlarm. I have
ZoneAlarm set to automatically run on startup but instead it's opening some
folder!

THIS was the fix:

>>This is a glitch that happens for some, not all, with the installation of
>>ZA, SP2 and Windows ... for some reason Windows gets confused with
>>ZoneAlarm
>>and Zone.Com and there are various reasons why, but there are a couple of
>>solutions ... I hope this one helps ... BB
>>In Windows Explorer go to My Computer > Local Disk ( C: ) > Program Files
>> >
>>Zone.Com > Zone Deluxe Games ... now drag and drop the Zone Deluxe Games
>>Folder into the Folder labeled Program Files ... now delete the Zone.Com
>>Folder ... Zone Alarm should now load without any problems and the
>>Zone.Com
>>Folder will not show-up any longer

Chet

CGB wrote:
>
> "Videofreak" <thisguy@lovespussycats.net> wrote in message
> news:f95ul1pind4vr988iockikkhmhsalpv0fn@4ax.com...
> > Found a fix for what?
>
> From my note of 10/23:
>
> Followed recommendations and installed SP2 in about 40 minutes. All went
> well, except my free version of Zone Alarm stopped loading at startup. (I
> had told Windows XP not to use their firewall). I uninstalled Zone Alarm
> and reinstalled, now it still doesn't load at startup. Instead, I get an
> open explorer window of a folder called Zone.com
>
> I have to close this folder and go in and manually start ZoneAlarm. I have
> ZoneAlarm set to automatically run on startup but instead it's opening some
> folder!
>
> THIS was the fix:
>
> >>This is a glitch that happens for some, not all, with the installation of
> >>ZA, SP2 and Windows ... for some reason Windows gets confused with
> >>ZoneAlarm
> >>and Zone.Com and there are various reasons why, but there are a couple of
> >>solutions ... I hope this one helps ... BB
> >>In Windows Explorer go to My Computer > Local Disk ( C: ) > Program Files
> >> >
> >>Zone.Com > Zone Deluxe Games ... now drag and drop the Zone Deluxe Games
> >>Folder into the Folder labeled Program Files ... now delete the Zone.Com
> >>Folder ... Zone Alarm should now load without any problems and the
> >>Zone.Com
> >>Folder will not show-up any longer
>
> Chet

Chet:

I had a similar problem on my wife's 3-month old Win XP Pro laptop (with SP2).
Zone Alarm would not load on startup. I thought it had something to do with
the installation of Nod32 AV. It turns out the fix was easy. With SP2, you
have a choice of turning the Windows Firewall on or off. I had turned it off.
When I turned the firewall back on, Zone Alarm began loading normally at startup.
Problem solved. It could solve the unwanted folder opening up as well.

Scott

CGB wrote:
>
> "Videofreak" <thisguy@lovespussycats.net> wrote in message
> news:f95ul1pind4vr988iockikkhmhsalpv0fn@4ax.com...
> > Found a fix for what?
>
> From my note of 10/23:
>
> Followed recommendations and installed SP2 in about 40 minutes. All went
> well, except my free version of Zone Alarm stopped loading at startup. (I
> had told Windows XP not to use their firewall). I uninstalled Zone Alarm
> and reinstalled, now it still doesn't load at startup. Instead, I get an
> open explorer window of a folder called Zone.com
>
> I have to close this folder and go in and manually start ZoneAlarm. I have
> ZoneAlarm set to automatically run on startup but instead it's opening some
> folder!
>
> THIS was the fix:
>
> >>This is a glitch that happens for some, not all, with the installation of
> >>ZA, SP2 and Windows ... for some reason Windows gets confused with
> >>ZoneAlarm
> >>and Zone.Com and there are various reasons why, but there are a couple of
> >>solutions ... I hope this one helps ... BB
> >>In Windows Explorer go to My Computer > Local Disk ( C: ) > Program Files
> >> >
> >>Zone.Com > Zone Deluxe Games ... now drag and drop the Zone Deluxe Games
> >>Folder into the Folder labeled Program Files ... now delete the Zone.Com
> >>Folder ... Zone Alarm should now load without any problems and the
> >>Zone.Com
> >>Folder will not show-up any longer
>
> Chet

CGB,

I had a similar problem on my wife's 3-month old Win XP Pro laptop (with SP2).
Zone Alarm would not load on startup. I thought it had something to do with
the installation of Nod32 AV. It turns out the fix was easy. With SP2, you
have a choice of turning the Windows Firewall on or off. I had turned it off.
When I turned the firewall back on, Zone Alarm began loading normally at startup.
Problem solved. It could solve the unwanted folder opening up as well.

Scott