Lingering questions for SP2 from MVP board

Guess I'm delaying updating XP SP1 to SP2. I think I have all questions
answered and preparations made but lingering questions:

From an MSMVP web site ( http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm ) (Hope
that MVP sees this note) it tells you to:

1. disconnect all peripherals except keyboard and monitor
If these are disconnected, will I have to reinstall drivers for printer
and scanner and digital camera peripherals afterward? I'm particularly
concerned about this because my HP 4100C scanner won't run on Windows XP and
I have it functioning on a jury-rigged combination of a driver for it for
Windows 2000 and an XP patch. I'm not sure I can reproduce this should SP2
installation undo it. I've heard stories of people having driver problems
after going to SP2.
Does this advice also mean to disconnect the telephone line for the
telephone modem? I also have a cable modem and can disconnect it.
Does simply unplugging the computer-to-peripheral cable at the peripheral
count or must it be disconnected at the computer side(harder to reach).

2. Go into MSCONFIG>startup and uncheck everything
I thought one MUST have systray and Iexplore checked for the computer to
work. Or, are these two items necessary only to run Windows and SP2
actually installs in a "DOS" environment? If so the SP2 program won't start
automatically from the CD drive (I have the patch on CD), or will it?

3. If one of the options to install SP2 is to go to MSN and have it
download and install in the background while you are using your computer
(that must take a while!!) why is it necessary to take above steps?

I hope I'm not beating a dead horse on this but I try to avoid things rather
than try to fix them. Also, it's just interesting. Because above advice
came from and MS-MVP, I place great credence in it and am just interested in
the background.

Many thanks.

Chet

The information is, Disconnect everything! That includes removing any plug
in boards such as sound cards, LAN cards, modems - you get the picture. You
want only the video adapter, mouse, keyboard, primary master hard drive and
one CD drive connected. Everything else goes.

Note: This is usually only recommended if you are having problems installing
the operating system on a computer. I have never seen, nor would I recommend
that you do this just to update to SP2. If that were the case, Microsoft
would have grave problems indeed!

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"CGB" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:OAkpRU11FHA.1060@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Guess I'm delaying updating XP SP1 to SP2. I think I have all questions
> answered and preparations made but lingering questions:
>
> From an MSMVP web site ( http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm )
> (Hope
> that MVP sees this note) it tells you to:
>
> 1. disconnect all peripherals except keyboard and monitor
> If these are disconnected, will I have to reinstall drivers for printer
> and scanner and digital camera peripherals afterward? I'm particularly
> concerned about this because my HP 4100C scanner won't run on Windows XP
> and
> I have it functioning on a jury-rigged combination of a driver for it for
> Windows 2000 and an XP patch. I'm not sure I can reproduce this should
> SP2
> installation undo it. I've heard stories of people having driver problems
> after going to SP2.
> Does this advice also mean to disconnect the telephone line for the
> telephone modem? I also have a cable modem and can disconnect it.
> Does simply unplugging the computer-to-peripheral cable at the
> peripheral
> count or must it be disconnected at the computer side(harder to reach).
>
> 2. Go into MSCONFIG>startup and uncheck everything
> I thought one MUST have systray and Iexplore checked for the computer
> to
> work. Or, are these two items necessary only to run Windows and SP2
> actually installs in a "DOS" environment? If so the SP2 program won't
> start
> automatically from the CD drive (I have the patch on CD), or will it?
>
> 3. If one of the options to install SP2 is to go to MSN and have it
> download and install in the background while you are using your computer
> (that must take a while!!) why is it necessary to take above steps?
>
> I hope I'm not beating a dead horse on this but I try to avoid things
> rather
> than try to fix them. Also, it's just interesting. Because above advice
> came from and MS-MVP, I place great credence in it and am just interested
> in
> the background.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Chet
>
>

CGB

The basic idea is that you disconnect some stuff such that SP2 has nothing
to fall over.. so disconnect the printer, scanner, webcam, external drive,
stuff like that..

Re. system tray entries, right click each one and shut down where possible..

Most importantly, ensure that your system is 99.99% spyware free..

Once the above steps are taken, SP2 install should be a breeze..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"CGB" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:OAkpRU11FHA.1060@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Guess I'm delaying updating XP SP1 to SP2. I think I have all questions
> answered and preparations made but lingering questions:
>
> From an MSMVP web site ( http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm )
> (Hope
> that MVP sees this note) it tells you to:
>
> 1. disconnect all peripherals except keyboard and monitor
> If these are disconnected, will I have to reinstall drivers for printer
> and scanner and digital camera peripherals afterward? I'm particularly
> concerned about this because my HP 4100C scanner won't run on Windows XP
> and
> I have it functioning on a jury-rigged combination of a driver for it for
> Windows 2000 and an XP patch. I'm not sure I can reproduce this should
> SP2
> installation undo it. I've heard stories of people having driver problems
> after going to SP2.
> Does this advice also mean to disconnect the telephone line for the
> telephone modem? I also have a cable modem and can disconnect it.
> Does simply unplugging the computer-to-peripheral cable at the
> peripheral
> count or must it be disconnected at the computer side(harder to reach).
>
> 2. Go into MSCONFIG>startup and uncheck everything
> I thought one MUST have systray and Iexplore checked for the computer
> to
> work. Or, are these two items necessary only to run Windows and SP2
> actually installs in a "DOS" environment? If so the SP2 program won't
> start
> automatically from the CD drive (I have the patch on CD), or will it?
>
> 3. If one of the options to install SP2 is to go to MSN and have it
> download and install in the background while you are using your computer
> (that must take a while!!) why is it necessary to take above steps?
>
> I hope I'm not beating a dead horse on this but I try to avoid things
> rather
> than try to fix them. Also, it's just interesting. Because above advice
> came from and MS-MVP, I place great credence in it and am just interested
> in
> the background.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Chet
>
>

Followed recommendations and installed SP2 in about 40 minutes. All went
well, except my free version of Zone Alarm stopped loading at startup. (I
had told Windows XP not to use their firewall). I uninstalled Zone Alarm
and reinstalled, now it still doesn't load at startup. Instead, I get an
open explorer window of a folder called Zone.com

I have to close this folder and go in and manually start ZoneAlarm. I have
ZoneAlarm set to automatically run on startup but instead it's opening some
folder!

Chet

In news:uP6u4z41FHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
CGB <nospam@nospam.net> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> Followed recommendations and installed SP2 in about 40 minutes. All
> went well, except my free version of Zone Alarm stopped loading at
> startup. (I had told Windows XP not to use their firewall). I
> uninstalled Zone Alarm and reinstalled, now it still doesn't load at
> startup. Instead, I get an open explorer window of a folder called
> Zone.com
> I have to close this folder and go in and manually start ZoneAlarm. I have
> ZoneAlarm set to automatically run on startup but instead it's
> opening some folder!
>
> Chet


Update ZoneAlarm to it's newest version or consider an alternative.

Firewalls - Basics:
http://kgiii.info/windows/all/securi...ls-basics.html


--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/

"A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the
furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in the
lumber-room of his library where he can get it if he wants it."

Sherlock Holmes

Galen,
Thank you. It is the newest version of ZoneAlarm Free I'm having trouble
with. I'll have to fool around with it a little more. I can get it to work
with a couple of extra clicks at startup but I want to have it right. I'll
see what I can do, just hoping someone might have figured this one out
already and have a quick answer!

Chet
"Galen" <galennews@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eEGvAX51FHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> In news:uP6u4z41FHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
> CGB <nospam@nospam.net> had this to say:
>
> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>
> Update ZoneAlarm to it's newest version or consider an alternative.
>
> Firewalls - Basics:
> http://kgiii.info/windows/all/securi...ls-basics.html
>
>
> --
> Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
> http://dts-l.org/
>
> "A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the
> furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in the
> lumber-room of his library where he can get it if he wants it."
>
> Sherlock Holmes
>

Some kind soul responded to my questions re: Zone Alarm problems after SP2
update. The response came from the zone alarm forums. It works.

*****
This is a glitch that happens for some, not all, with the installation of
ZA, SP2 and Windows ... for some reason Windows gets confused with ZoneAlarm
and Zone.Com and there are various reasons why, but there are a couple of
solutions ... I hope this one helps ... BB
In Windows Explorer go to My Computer > Local Disk ( C: ) > Program Files >
Zone.Com > Zone Deluxe Games ... now drag and drop the Zone Deluxe Games
Folder into the Folder labeled Program Files ... now delete the Zone.Com
Folder ... Zone Alarm should now load without any problems and the Zone.Com
Folder will not show-up any longer

*************

Chet

Try the Sygate Firewall..
http://www.simtel.com/product.downlo...s.php?id=53687

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"CGB" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:u81$Ev91FHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Galen,
> Thank you. It is the newest version of ZoneAlarm Free I'm having trouble
> with. I'll have to fool around with it a little more. I can get it to
> work with a couple of extra clicks at startup but I want to have it right.
> I'll see what I can do, just hoping someone might have figured this one
> out already and have a quick answer!
>
> Chet
> "Galen" <galennews@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eEGvAX51FHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> In news:uP6u4z41FHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
>> CGB <nospam@nospam.net> had this to say:
>>
>> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>>
>> Update ZoneAlarm to it's newest version or consider an alternative.
>>
>> Firewalls - Basics:
>> http://kgiii.info/windows/all/securi...ls-basics.html
>>
>>
>> --
>> Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
>> http://dts-l.org/
>>
>> "A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the
>> furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in the
>> lumber-room of his library where he can get it if he wants it."
>>
>> Sherlock Holmes
>>
>
>

Also ... DISABLE ALL firewall & Virus protection too while you're loading
SP2

"CGB" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:OAkpRU11FHA.1060@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Guess I'm delaying updating XP SP1 to SP2. I think I have all questions
> answered and preparations made but lingering questions:
>
> From an MSMVP web site ( http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm )
> (Hope
> that MVP sees this note) it tells you to:
>
> 1. disconnect all peripherals except keyboard and monitor
> If these are disconnected, will I have to reinstall drivers for printer
> and scanner and digital camera peripherals afterward? I'm particularly
> concerned about this because my HP 4100C scanner won't run on Windows XP
> and
> I have it functioning on a jury-rigged combination of a driver for it for
> Windows 2000 and an XP patch. I'm not sure I can reproduce this should
> SP2
> installation undo it. I've heard stories of people having driver problems
> after going to SP2.
> Does this advice also mean to disconnect the telephone line for the
> telephone modem? I also have a cable modem and can disconnect it.
> Does simply unplugging the computer-to-peripheral cable at the
> peripheral
> count or must it be disconnected at the computer side(harder to reach).
>
> 2. Go into MSCONFIG>startup and uncheck everything
> I thought one MUST have systray and Iexplore checked for the computer
> to
> work. Or, are these two items necessary only to run Windows and SP2
> actually installs in a "DOS" environment? If so the SP2 program won't
> start
> automatically from the CD drive (I have the patch on CD), or will it?
>
> 3. If one of the options to install SP2 is to go to MSN and have it
> download and install in the background while you are using your computer
> (that must take a while!!) why is it necessary to take above steps?
>
> I hope I'm not beating a dead horse on this but I try to avoid things
> rather
> than try to fix them. Also, it's just interesting. Because above advice
> came from and MS-MVP, I place great credence in it and am just interested
> in
> the background.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Chet
>
>

Pentium wrote:
> Also ... DISABLE ALL firewall & Virus protection too while you're loading
> SP2
>

Why? I've never seen either type of application cause any problems
with a Service Pack installation.


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