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Old 01-05-2006, 02:55 AM
fortwilliam
 
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hi..i installed Zone Alarm recently and have noticed that my windows firewall
keeps turning off, Are they conflicting with each other? or maybe i dont need
windows firewall activated as well as ZA, i would have thought for security
the more the better.any pointers would be much appriciated,many thanks in
advance
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Old 01-05-2006, 02:55 AM
Gordon
 
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"fortwilliam" <fortwilliam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BC9D024A-ACD3-4861-A3F0-F33CD8F6A614@microsoft.com
> hi..i installed Zone Alarm recently and have noticed that my windows
> firewall keeps turning off, Are they conflicting with each other? or
> maybe i dont need windows firewall activated as well as ZA, i would
> have thought for security the more the better.any pointers would be
> much appriciated,many thanks in advance


Two firewalls is a waste of resources and may well slow you up. Use one or
the other, not both!


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Old 01-05-2006, 02:55 AM
Will Denny
 
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Hi

May I suggest that you turn off the XP Firewall. It doesn't monitor
outgoing access to the Internet, whereas ZA does.

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"fortwilliam" <fortwilliam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BC9D024A-ACD3-4861-A3F0-F33CD8F6A614@microsoft.com...
> hi..i installed Zone Alarm recently and have noticed that my windows
> firewall
> keeps turning off, Are they conflicting with each other? or maybe i dont
> need
> windows firewall activated as well as ZA, i would have thought for
> security
> the more the better.any pointers would be much appriciated,many thanks in
> advance



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Old 01-05-2006, 02:55 AM
fortwilliam
 
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thanks will

"Will Denny" wrote:

> Hi
>
> May I suggest that you turn off the XP Firewall. It doesn't monitor
> outgoing access to the Internet, whereas ZA does.
>
> --
>
>
> Will Denny
> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
> Please reply to the News Groups
>
> "fortwilliam" <fortwilliam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BC9D024A-ACD3-4861-A3F0-F33CD8F6A614@microsoft.com...
> > hi..i installed Zone Alarm recently and have noticed that my windows
> > firewall
> > keeps turning off, Are they conflicting with each other? or maybe i dont
> > need
> > windows firewall activated as well as ZA, i would have thought for
> > security
> > the more the better.any pointers would be much appriciated,many thanks in
> > advance

>
>
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:55 AM
John Barnett MVP
 
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Zone Alarm disables windows firewall by default. It is pointless running two
firewalls anyway, you don't get double the protection. Windows firewall also
is only a basic firewall it will not monitor outgoing traffic, ZA will.

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"fortwilliam" <fortwilliam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BC9D024A-ACD3-4861-A3F0-F33CD8F6A614@microsoft.com...
> hi..i installed Zone Alarm recently and have noticed that my windows
> firewall
> keeps turning off, Are they conflicting with each other? or maybe i dont
> need
> windows firewall activated as well as ZA, i would have thought for
> security
> the more the better.any pointers would be much appriciated,many thanks in
> advance



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Old 01-05-2006, 02:55 AM
Ken Blake, MVP
 
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fortwilliam wrote:

> hi..i installed Zone Alarm recently and have noticed that my windows
> firewall keeps turning off, Are they conflicting with each other? or
> maybe i dont need windows firewall activated as well as ZA, i would
> have thought for security the more the better.any pointers would be
> much appriciated,many thanks in advance



Don't run two firewalls. You achieve no extra protection, you incur the
extra overhead of running two firewalls, and you run the risk (probably
small, but not zero) of conflicts between them.

See http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu.../firewall.mspx

which includes the following:

"Q. Should I use both the built-in firewall and a software firewall from a
different company on my Windows XP computer?



"A. No. Running multiple software firewalls is unnecessary for typical home
computers, home networking, and small-business networking scenarios. Using
two firewalls on the same connection could cause issues with connectivity to
the Internet or other unexpected behavior. One firewall, whether it is the
Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall or a different software firewall,
can provide substantial protection for your computer."



Also note that if you update your third-party firewall to a new version, the
update routine will probably turn it off first. If the Windows firewall
isn't running, you will temporarily be left with no running firewall, which
is very dangerous. So turn on the Windows firewall temporarily before doing
maintenance on your third-party firewall.



The Windows firewall monitors incoming traffic only. Almost any third-party
firewall will also monitor outbound traffic, stopping rogue programs trying
to call home, and is a better choice.


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Old 01-05-2006, 02:55 AM
Keith
 
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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> fortwilliam wrote:
>
>> hi..i installed Zone Alarm recently and have noticed that my windows
>> firewall keeps turning off, Are they conflicting with each other? or
>> maybe i dont need windows firewall activated as well as ZA, i would
>> have thought for security the more the better.any pointers would be
>> much appriciated,many thanks in advance

>
>
> Don't run two firewalls. You achieve no extra protection, you incur
> the extra overhead of running two firewalls, and you run the risk
> (probably small, but not zero) of conflicts between them.
>
> See http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu.../firewall.mspx
>
> which includes the following:
>
> "Q. Should I use both the built-in firewall and a software firewall
> from a different company on my Windows XP computer?
>
>
>
> "A. No. Running multiple software firewalls is unnecessary for
> typical home computers, home networking, and small-business
> networking scenarios. Using two firewalls on the same connection
> could cause issues with connectivity to the Internet or other
> unexpected behavior. One firewall, whether it is the Windows XP
> Internet Connection Firewall or a different software firewall, can
> provide substantial protection for your computer."
>
>
> Also note that if you update your third-party firewall to a new
> version, the update routine will probably turn it off first. If the
> Windows firewall isn't running, you will temporarily be left with no
> running firewall, which is very dangerous. So turn on the Windows
> firewall temporarily before doing maintenance on your third-party
> firewall.
>
>
> The Windows firewall monitors incoming traffic only. Almost any
> third-party firewall will also monitor outbound traffic, stopping
> rogue programs trying to call home, and is a better choice.


An even better choice is a program that detects and removes nasties like
RAT's and Zombies and dialers
Then you can safely use Windows Firewall.


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Old 01-05-2006, 02:56 AM
Ken Blake, MVP
 
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Keith wrote:

> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:


>> The Windows firewall monitors incoming traffic only. Almost any
>> third-party firewall will also monitor outbound traffic, stopping
>> rogue programs trying to call home, and is a better choice.

>
> An even better choice is a program that detects and removes nasties
> like RAT's and Zombies and dialers
> Then you can safely use Windows Firewall.



I disagree. Running a program (or several) that removes (or prevents)
malware is certainly a good thing to do, and I run several of these myself.
But no such program is necessarily perfect; it is still prudent to run a
firewall that monitors out-going traffic, in case something slips through
your other defenses.

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:56 AM
Gromer
 
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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> Keith wrote:
>
> > Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>
> >> The Windows firewall monitors incoming traffic only. Almost any
> >> third-party firewall will also monitor outbound traffic, stopping
> >> rogue programs trying to call home, and is a better choice.


Oh !!! I did'nt know this.. I have only WinXP Firewall and AVG Free
edition installed.. Does this mean my system is still prone to
assaults.. Plz suggest!!

Gromer

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:56 AM
Ken Blake, MVP
 
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Gromer wrote:


>>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>>
>>>> The Windows firewall monitors incoming traffic only. Almost any
>>>> third-party firewall will also monitor outbound traffic, stopping
>>>> rogue programs trying to call home, and is a better choice.

>
> Oh !!! I did'nt know this.. I have only WinXP Firewall and AVG Free
> edition installed.. Does this mean my system is still prone to
> assaults.. Plz suggest!!



Don't panic. It's not that the WIndows firewall is terrible. It takes care
of most dangers. It's just that there are better alternatives that provide
an additional small measure of safety.

Personally I use the fre version of ZoneAlarm.

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