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Old 01-05-2006, 03:57 AM
Jared Phillips
 
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Default Windows Firewall

Does anyone know how can I get the Windows Firewall to stay on? Every time
I start windows I have to change the Firewall settings from off to on. I
have XP sp2.


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Old 01-05-2006, 03:57 AM
Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)
 
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Default Re: Windows Firewall

Jared

Do you have any other firewall running?.. third party software firewalls
will close down the SP2 firewall automatically..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"Jared Phillips" <jflipo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Does anyone know how can I get the Windows Firewall to stay on? Every
> time I start windows I have to change the Firewall settings from off to
> on. I have XP sp2.
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 03:57 AM
Jared Phillips
 
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Default Re: Windows Firewall

Yes I have Norton Internet Security installed and it does have a Firewall,
I'll deactivate and try again, Thanks for the info

..
"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mikehalll@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> Jared
>
> Do you have any other firewall running?.. third party software firewalls
> will close down the SP2 firewall automatically..
>
> --
> Mike Hall
> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Jared Phillips" <jflipo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:O7EqxRCBGHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Does anyone know how can I get the Windows Firewall to stay on? Every
>> time I start windows I have to change the Firewall settings from off to
>> on. I have XP sp2.
>>

>
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 03:57 AM
Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)
 
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Default Re: Windows Firewall

No, no.. do not deactivate Norton.. Norton's firewall is more effective than
the SP2 firewall.. you do not need two software firewalls running, which is
why SP2 firewall is closing down..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"Jared Phillips" <jflipo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:OCQt0aCBGHA.2656@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Yes I have Norton Internet Security installed and it does have a Firewall,
> I'll deactivate and try again, Thanks for the info
>
> .
> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mikehalll@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23eg5qUCBGHA.808@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Jared
>>
>> Do you have any other firewall running?.. third party software firewalls
>> will close down the SP2 firewall automatically..
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall
>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "Jared Phillips" <jflipo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:O7EqxRCBGHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> Does anyone know how can I get the Windows Firewall to stay on? Every
>>> time I start windows I have to change the Firewall settings from off to
>>> on. I have XP sp2.
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 03:57 AM
Ken Blake, MVP
 
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Default Re: Windows Firewall

Jared Phillips wrote:

> Yes I have Norton Internet Security installed and it does have a
> Firewall, I'll deactivate and try again, Thanks for the info



No, do it the other way around. You should have only one one firewall, and
almost any third-party firewall is a better choice than the Windows one. The
Windows firewall monitors incoming traffic only. Almost any third-party
firewall will also monitor outbound traffic, stopping rogue programs trying
to call home, and is a better choice.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



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Old 01-05-2006, 03:57 AM
Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)
 
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Default Re: Windows Firewall

Ken

I have a feeling that when he disables Norton Firewall, and SP2 firewall
stays lit, he will consider the job to be done and will not come back to see
what we posted.. lets hope that he comes back to say thanks.. :-)

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:OvtnWgDBGHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Jared Phillips wrote:
>
>> Yes I have Norton Internet Security installed and it does have a
>> Firewall, I'll deactivate and try again, Thanks for the info

>
>
> No, do it the other way around. You should have only one one firewall, and
> almost any third-party firewall is a better choice than the Windows one.
> The Windows firewall monitors incoming traffic only. Almost any
> third-party firewall will also monitor outbound traffic, stopping rogue
> programs trying to call home, and is a better choice.
>
> --
> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> Please reply to the newsgroup
>
>
>
> .
>> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mikehalll@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:%23eg5qUCBGHA.808@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>> Jared
>>>
>>> Do you have any other firewall running?.. third party software
>>> firewalls will close down the SP2 firewall automatically..
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Hall
>>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jared Phillips" <jflipo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:O7EqxRCBGHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> Does anyone know how can I get the Windows Firewall to stay on? Every
>>>> time I start windows I have to change the Firewall settings
>>>> from off to on. I have XP sp2.

>
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 03:57 AM
Ken Blake, MVP
 
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Default Re: Windows Firewall

Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:

> I have a feeling that when he disables Norton Firewall, and SP2
> firewall stays lit, he will consider the job to be done and will not
> come back to see what we posted.. lets hope that he comes back to say
> thanks.. :-)



Unfortunately you may be right.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:OvtnWgDBGHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Jared Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> Yes I have Norton Internet Security installed and it does have a
>>> Firewall, I'll deactivate and try again, Thanks for the info

>>
>>
>> No, do it the other way around. You should have only one one
>> firewall, and almost any third-party firewall is a better choice
>> than the Windows one. The Windows firewall monitors incoming traffic
>> only. Almost any third-party firewall will also monitor outbound
>> traffic, stopping rogue programs trying to call home, and is a
>> better choice. --
>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>> Please reply to the newsgroup
>>
>>
>>
>> .
>>> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mikehalll@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:%23eg5qUCBGHA.808@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>> Jared
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any other firewall running?.. third party software
>>>> firewalls will close down the SP2 firewall automatically..
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mike Hall
>>>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jared Phillips" <jflipo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:O7EqxRCBGHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Does anyone know how can I get the Windows Firewall to stay on?
>>>>> Every time I start windows I have to change the Firewall settings
>>>>> from off to on. I have XP sp2.



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Old 01-05-2006, 03:57 AM
MAP
 
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Default Re: Windows Firewall

Jared Phillips wrote:
> Does anyone know how can I get the Windows Firewall to stay on?
> Every time I start windows I have to change the Firewall settings
> from off to on. I have XP sp2.





From www.spywareinfo.com



I promised myself a while back not to go on another anti-Microsoft rant,
that I would write calmly about any goofs they make. It has been a hard
promise to keep at times. And now, I must break that promise. If I don't
rant about this, I will burst at the seams.

The function of a software firewall is simple. It allows the user to control
the computer's access to other computers. To do that, it blocks attempts to
send unauthorized data out over a network, as well as the attempts of other
computers to send data to the protected computer. A proper firewall allows
data into or out of the computer, only when the user gives the firewall
permission to do so. I think most people will agree that this is an accurate
description of the proper function of a software firewall.

So I am left to wonder if the Microsoft programmers who designed the Windows
Firewall have lost their freakin minds. While the Windows Firewall will
block network access like any other firewall, the settings which determine
whether or not an attempt to access the network is permitted is stored in
the registry. Any piece of software is allowed to edit that part of the
registry and give itself permission to send or receive data over the
network.

There are several viruses, worms and spyware programs that edit the registry
settings for the Windows Firewall. Even if the user discovers a virus
infection and cleans it successfully, that computer can be reinfected at any
time, if the virus edited the firewall settings. Many network worms can
infect a computer if it discovers certain unsecured network ports. It
happened to me once, when I turned off my firewall and forgot to turn it
back on.

Changes to a firewall's settings should be possible only through the
firewall program's interface. Those changes should be saved into an
encrypted file, which cannot be altered by any other program. Those settings
should not EVER be written to the registry, where they can be altered by any
other program running on the PC. It takes only the smallest shred of common
sense to realize this.

Where was the common sense when they were creating the Windows Firewall?
This is like hiring security guards to keep gate crashers away from a party
but allowing the guests to write their own invitations.

But wait, there's more!

Someone discovered recently that the Windows Firewall interface won't even
tell the user about an opened port, if the registry entry granting it
permission has a malformed name. Not only can a malicious programmer give
his evil creation permission to bypass the firewall, he can hide the fact
that he's done it!

It is boneheaded mistakes like this which make it difficult to use Windows
safely. God help us all when Microsoft begins to make its own antivirus
software. The only reason Microsoft's antispyware program works well
probably is because Microsoft didn't write it.

--
Mike Pawlak


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Old 01-05-2006, 03:57 AM
NoNoBadDog!
 
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Default Re: Windows Firewall

You would be very foolish to replace the Norton firewall with windows
firewall. Windows firewall is inbound only, and is not updated very often.
Norton firewall is both inbound and outbound and is updated regularly.

Windows Firewall is not worth the space it occupies on your hard drive.

Bobby

"Jared Phillips" <jflipo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:OCQt0aCBGHA.2656@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Yes I have Norton Internet Security installed and it does have a Firewall,
> I'll deactivate and try again, Thanks for the info
>
> .
> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mikehalll@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23eg5qUCBGHA.808@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Jared
>>
>> Do you have any other firewall running?.. third party software firewalls
>> will close down the SP2 firewall automatically..
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall
>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "Jared Phillips" <jflipo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:O7EqxRCBGHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> Does anyone know how can I get the Windows Firewall to stay on? Every
>>> time I start windows I have to change the Firewall settings from off to
>>> on. I have XP sp2.
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



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