"Whilst there was some odd viruses or errors there was nothing significant.
"

Oh no...these are very significant. You must deal with them.

--
Ted Zieglar
"You can do it if you try."

"neil" <neil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BD48A3F7-B0E7-490F-9484-66DD2AD4E954@microsoft.com...
> As an update, I have unistalled Norton Internet Securuty, installed
Zonalarm,
> installed and run Stinger, installed and run Spywareblaster, CWShredder,
> Spybot S&D and Superadblocker. Whilst there was some odd viruses or
errors
> there was nothing significant. So the PC is running just as slow as
before.
>
> Any more help would be much appreciated.
>
> thanks
> --
> neil
>
>
> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
> > Neil
> >
> > Use Add/Remove Programs to uninstall Norton AV.. if that doesn't
eliminate
> > all of Norton, go to the Norton website for more on how to remove it
> > completely..
> >
> > OK.. thats one problem out of the way..
> >
> > Now install AVG or Avast anti-virus.. both are free.. links further down
to
> > their respective websites..
> >
> > Spyware/Adware/Scumware has become a major player in compromising
> > computers.. they introduce viruses, trojans and worms.. they attempt to
send
> > out information about you, and they also slow your computer down..
> >
> > The worst of it is that you probably downloaded the spyware, albeit
> > inadvertently..
> >
> > Some basic steps to removing Spyware/Adware..
> >
> > First step is to run a one shot virus remover.. I have found that McAfee
> > Stinger works for people.. download and run it..
> >
> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/
> >
> > You will also need to download Spyware removal software.. Spybot and
Adaware
> > are available at these websites.. both are free.. download and run
them..
> > don't forget to check for updates after you have started them..
> >
> > Adaware SE - http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/
> >
> > SpyBot S&D - http://www.safer-networking.org/
> >
> > Spybot has the ability to immunize a system, but there is better for
this
> > function, so download and run Spyware Blaster too.. again, check for
> > updates..
> >
> > SpywareBlaster - http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
> >
> > If you have had your Internet browser hijacked, that is to say, you get
> > redirected through a search engine NOT of your choosing, you will need
> > different tools..
> >
> > Two more excellent programs..
> >
> > Ewido Suite - http://www.ewido.net/en/ ..
> >
> > A trial working version is available, and they also allow for an online
> > scan..
> >
> > You might also want to try this from Nick Skreptos.. Again, a trial
version
> > is available..
> >
> > http://www.superadblocker.com/
> >
> > ...and he maintains that it will remove Winfixer 2005.. That can't be a
bad
> > thing..
> >
> >
> > CWShredder will eliminate CoolWebSearch and variants.. there is a free
> > download here..
> >
> > CWShredder..
http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract..._download.html
> >
> > For other tools in the fight against spyware, visit this website and
> > bookmark it..
> >
> > http://www.pchell.com
> >
> > You must also run a firewall and anti-virus program.. here are some
links
> > for you..
> >
> > http://www.zonealarm.com .. http://www.avast.com ..
http://www.grisoft.com..
> >
> >
> > Special notes on SPYAXE (courtesy of bleepingcomputer.com)
> >
> > Tools Needed for this fix: smitRem.exe
> >
> > Note: These instructions are a paired down version of the Smitfraud
Removal
> > Instructions. If you feel that you only have the SpyAxe infection, then
you
> > should proceed with these steps. Otherwise, you may want to use the
longer
> > complete Smitfraud Removal Instructions, which will remove SpyAxe as
well as
> > other infections at the same time.
> >
> > Removal Instructions:
> >
> > Print out these instructions as we will need to shutdown every window
that
> > is open later in the fix.
> >
> > Download smitRem.exe and save the file to your desktop. Double click on
> > smitRem.exe and then click on Start. When it is done, click on the OK
> > button. You should now have a folder called smitRem on your desktop.
> > Next, please reboot your computer in SafeMode by doing the following:
> >
> > Restart your computer
> >
> > After hearing your computer beep once during startup, but before the
Windows
> > icon appears, press F8.
> > Instead of Windows loading as normal, a menu should appear. Select the
first
> > option, to run Windows in Safe Mode. When your computer has started in
safe
> > mode and you see the desktop, close all open Windows.
> > Open the smitRem folder on your desktop and double click the RunThis.bat
> > file to start the tool.
> >
> > Follow the prompts on screen and wait for the tool to complete and disk
> > cleanup to finish.
> > When the tool is finished, it will will create a log named smitfiles.txt
in
> > the root of your drive, eg; Local Disk C: or the partition where your
> > operating system is installed. Examining that log should show that the
> > infection was cleaned.
> >
> > Reboot your computer back to normal mode.
> >
> > Pasted from <http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic36868.html>
> >
> >
> > Please return to this thread and provide feedback.. it is the only way
that
> > helpers here can determine how effective the advice given has been..
> >
> > Good luck..
> >
> > --
> > Mike Hall
> > MVP - Windows Shell/User
> >
> >
> > "neil" <neil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:1CEFABB1-7B4E-43A5-9002-DEB7ADC30427@microsoft.com...
> > > Thanks for the information. But I have run Norton Anti Virus and
that
> > > gives
> > > it a clean bill of health, I believe that Norton picks up spyware as
well.
> > > So that leaves options to and three. One other piece of info that
may be
> > > useful is that on occasions the system will not read a cd in the cd
rom,
> > > could there be a hardware problem there that is causing difficulties
> > > elsewhere?
> > >
> > > Any further advice would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > --
> > > neil
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ted Zieglar" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Top three reasons for Windows loading slowly:
> > >>
> > >> 1. Viruses and spyware
> > >> 2. Too many programs start with Windows.
> > >> 3. Software or hardware misconfiguration.
> > >>
> > >> IMHO that accounts for 95% of all instances of slow loading.
> > >> --
> > >> Ted Zieglar
> > >> "You can do it if you try."
> > >>
> > >> "neil" <neil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:8ACF61CA-1CA1-4CAA-988B-7784261748D0@microsoft.com...
> > >> > I have a PC in my home with a pentium 2.8 processor with 512mb ram.
> > >> > Over
> > >> a
> > >> > period of a few weeks the time it take to get to the windows user
logon
> > >> > screen seems to get longer and longer. When you do log into
windows
> > >> > the
> > >> > start up music is distorted. I have run all the usual utilities
> > >> including
> > >> > defrag and chkdsk and installed new virus scanning software all to
no
> > >> avail.
> > >> >
> > >> > Has anyone any ideas?
> > >> >
> > >> > Many thanks
> > >> > --
> > >> > neil
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >

Neil

Please check Event Viewer for Warning / Error Report in the System and
Application over the last 2 days and post copies.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools, and
Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information
regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...308427&sd=tech

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you should
double click for further information. You can copy using copy and paste.
Often the link will, however, say there is no further information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click
on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button
resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event Viewer. Now
start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. This
will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report complete with links
into the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event
Viewer.

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"neil" <neil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BD48A3F7-B0E7-490F-9484-66DD2AD4E954@microsoft.com...
> As an update, I have unistalled Norton Internet Securuty, installed
> Zonalarm,
> installed and run Stinger, installed and run Spywareblaster, CWShredder,
> Spybot S&D and Superadblocker. Whilst there was some odd viruses or
> errors
> there was nothing significant. So the PC is running just as slow as
> before.
>
> Any more help would be much appreciated.
>
> thanks
> --
> neil
>
>
> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
>> Neil
>>
>> Use Add/Remove Programs to uninstall Norton AV.. if that doesn't
>> eliminate
>> all of Norton, go to the Norton website for more on how to remove it
>> completely..
>>
>> OK.. thats one problem out of the way..
>>
>> Now install AVG or Avast anti-virus.. both are free.. links further down
>> to
>> their respective websites..
>>
>> Spyware/Adware/Scumware has become a major player in compromising
>> computers.. they introduce viruses, trojans and worms.. they attempt to
>> send
>> out information about you, and they also slow your computer down..
>>
>> The worst of it is that you probably downloaded the spyware, albeit
>> inadvertently..
>>
>> Some basic steps to removing Spyware/Adware..
>>
>> First step is to run a one shot virus remover.. I have found that McAfee
>> Stinger works for people.. download and run it..
>>
>> http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/
>>
>> You will also need to download Spyware removal software.. Spybot and
>> Adaware
>> are available at these websites.. both are free.. download and run them..
>> don't forget to check for updates after you have started them..
>>
>> Adaware SE - http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/
>>
>> SpyBot S&D - http://www.safer-networking.org/
>>
>> Spybot has the ability to immunize a system, but there is better for this
>> function, so download and run Spyware Blaster too.. again, check for
>> updates..
>>
>> SpywareBlaster - http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
>>
>> If you have had your Internet browser hijacked, that is to say, you get
>> redirected through a search engine NOT of your choosing, you will need
>> different tools..
>>
>> Two more excellent programs..
>>
>> Ewido Suite - http://www.ewido.net/en/ ..
>>
>> A trial working version is available, and they also allow for an online
>> scan..
>>
>> You might also want to try this from Nick Skreptos.. Again, a trial
>> version
>> is available..
>>
>> http://www.superadblocker.com/
>>
>> ...and he maintains that it will remove Winfixer 2005.. That can't be a
>> bad
>> thing..
>>
>>
>> CWShredder will eliminate CoolWebSearch and variants.. there is a free
>> download here..
>>
>> CWShredder..
>> http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract..._download.html
>>
>> For other tools in the fight against spyware, visit this website and
>> bookmark it..
>>
>> http://www.pchell.com
>>
>> You must also run a firewall and anti-virus program.. here are some links
>> for you..
>>
>> http://www.zonealarm.com .. http://www.avast.com ..
>> http://www.grisoft.com..
>>
>>
>> Special notes on SPYAXE (courtesy of bleepingcomputer.com)
>>
>> Tools Needed for this fix: smitRem.exe
>>
>> Note: These instructions are a paired down version of the Smitfraud
>> Removal
>> Instructions. If you feel that you only have the SpyAxe infection, then
>> you
>> should proceed with these steps. Otherwise, you may want to use the
>> longer
>> complete Smitfraud Removal Instructions, which will remove SpyAxe as well
>> as
>> other infections at the same time.
>>
>> Removal Instructions:
>>
>> Print out these instructions as we will need to shutdown every window
>> that
>> is open later in the fix.
>>
>> Download smitRem.exe and save the file to your desktop. Double click on
>> smitRem.exe and then click on Start. When it is done, click on the OK
>> button. You should now have a folder called smitRem on your desktop.
>> Next, please reboot your computer in SafeMode by doing the following:
>>
>> Restart your computer
>>
>> After hearing your computer beep once during startup, but before the
>> Windows
>> icon appears, press F8.
>> Instead of Windows loading as normal, a menu should appear. Select the
>> first
>> option, to run Windows in Safe Mode. When your computer has started in
>> safe
>> mode and you see the desktop, close all open Windows.
>> Open the smitRem folder on your desktop and double click the RunThis.bat
>> file to start the tool.
>>
>> Follow the prompts on screen and wait for the tool to complete and disk
>> cleanup to finish.
>> When the tool is finished, it will will create a log named smitfiles.txt
>> in
>> the root of your drive, eg; Local Disk C: or the partition where your
>> operating system is installed. Examining that log should show that the
>> infection was cleaned.
>>
>> Reboot your computer back to normal mode.
>>
>> Pasted from <http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic36868.html>
>>
>>
>> Please return to this thread and provide feedback.. it is the only way
>> that
>> helpers here can determine how effective the advice given has been..
>>
>> Good luck..
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall
>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "neil" <neil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1CEFABB1-7B4E-43A5-9002-DEB7ADC30427@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks for the information. But I have run Norton Anti Virus and that
>> > gives
>> > it a clean bill of health, I believe that Norton picks up spyware as
>> > well.
>> > So that leaves options to and three. One other piece of info that may
>> > be
>> > useful is that on occasions the system will not read a cd in the cd
>> > rom,
>> > could there be a hardware problem there that is causing difficulties
>> > elsewhere?
>> >
>> > Any further advice would be appreciated.
>> >
>> > thanks
>> > --
>> > neil
>> >
>> >
>> > "Ted Zieglar" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Top three reasons for Windows loading slowly:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Viruses and spyware
>> >> 2. Too many programs start with Windows.
>> >> 3. Software or hardware misconfiguration.
>> >>
>> >> IMHO that accounts for 95% of all instances of slow loading.
>> >> --
>> >> Ted Zieglar
>> >> "You can do it if you try."
>> >>
>> >> "neil" <neil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:8ACF61CA-1CA1-4CAA-988B-7784261748D0@microsoft.com...
>> >> > I have a PC in my home with a pentium 2.8 processor with 512mb ram.
>> >> > Over
>> >> a
>> >> > period of a few weeks the time it take to get to the windows user
>> >> > logon
>> >> > screen seems to get longer and longer. When you do log into
>> >> > windows
>> >> > the
>> >> > start up music is distorted. I have run all the usual utilities
>> >> including
>> >> > defrag and chkdsk and installed new virus scanning software all to
>> >> > no
>> >> avail.
>> >> >
>> >> > Has anyone any ideas?
>> >> >
>> >> > Many thanks
>> >> > --
>> >> > neil
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>