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How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files from 600 to 96 dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving them the files become 96 dpi. |
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I don't think anything is wrong.
The 96 dpi displayed by Paint is simply your monitor display. Open the Properties of the file and check the pixel dimensions of it. It should have the same pixel dimensions as the original file, say, something like: 1200 x 800. "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message news:eshXZf54FHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > Hello > How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files from 600 to 96 > dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving them the files > become 96 dpi. > > |
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I did not write about pixel dimensions, I wrote about resolution. The Paint
changes resolution and length dimensions of a scanned image, not pixel dimensions, therefore, Paint prints a 600 dpi image 6+ times larger. "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: news:uM5fnM84FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > I don't think anything is wrong. > The 96 dpi displayed by Paint is simply your monitor display. > Open the Properties of the file and check the pixel dimensions of it. It > should have the same pixel dimensions as the original file, say, something > like: > 1200 x 800. > > > "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > news:eshXZf54FHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > > Hello > > How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files from 600 to 96 > > dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving them the files > > become 96 dpi. > > > > > > |
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Pixel dimensions and resolution are the same thing!
Paint does not print anything 6+ times larger. Impossible. What you see from Paint is the size that your image would occupy on your screen, at 96 dpi, with the number of pixels contained in your image file. Nothing more and nothing less. Paint does not print anything. It simply tranfers the file to your printer. Select the print size. Get some free software from here to edit and print your images: www.faststone.org and forget about Paint. "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message news:%23GhOoxC5FHA.4036@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >I did not write about pixel dimensions, I wrote about resolution. The Paint > changes resolution and length dimensions of a scanned image, not pixel > dimensions, therefore, Paint prints a 600 dpi image 6+ times larger. > "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: > news:uM5fnM84FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> I don't think anything is wrong. >> The 96 dpi displayed by Paint is simply your monitor display. >> Open the Properties of the file and check the pixel dimensions of it. It >> should have the same pixel dimensions as the original file, say, >> something >> like: >> 1200 x 800. >> >> >> "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message >> news:eshXZf54FHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> > Hello >> > How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files from 600 to >> > 96 >> > dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving them the > files >> > become 96 dpi. >> > >> > >> >> > > |
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Resolution is number of dots per inch. Pixel dimensions are the size in
pixels. They are different things. If you think it is impossible, then try yourself, scan a A4 sheet with 600 dpi resolution to a 1bit tif and try to print it from Paint with 100% size in the Page setup. Paint will print just 1/6 of the image. I did not write about size on screen, but about size on a printed paper. I do not want to "Select the print size", I want the Pain to print with the original size stated in a tif. "yves alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: news:OSltkyE5FHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > Pixel dimensions and resolution are the same thing! > Paint does not print anything 6+ times larger. Impossible. > What you see from Paint is the size that your image would occupy on your > screen, at 96 dpi, with the number of pixels contained in your image file. > Nothing more and nothing less. Paint does not print anything. It simply > tranfers the file to your printer. Select the print size. > Get some free software from here to edit and print your images: > www.faststone.org > and forget about Paint. > > "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > news:%23GhOoxC5FHA.4036@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > >I did not write about pixel dimensions, I wrote about resolution. The Paint > > changes resolution and length dimensions of a scanned image, not pixel > > dimensions, therefore, Paint prints a 600 dpi image 6+ times larger. > > "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: > > news:uM5fnM84FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > >> I don't think anything is wrong. > >> The 96 dpi displayed by Paint is simply your monitor display. > >> Open the Properties of the file and check the pixel dimensions of it. It > >> should have the same pixel dimensions as the original file, say, > >> something > >> like: > >> 1200 x 800. > >> > >> > >> "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > >> news:eshXZf54FHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > >> > Hello > >> > How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files from 600 to > >> > 96 > >> > dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving them the > > files > >> > become 96 dpi. > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > |
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Yves.
Do the free software from www.faststone.org treat pixel dimensions and resolution as the same things too? Do they require to "Select the print size" too? Do not they see original image size in centimeters or inches too? "yves alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: news:OSltkyE5FHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > Pixel dimensions and resolution are the same thing! > Paint does not print anything 6+ times larger. Impossible. > What you see from Paint is the size that your image would occupy on your > screen, at 96 dpi, with the number of pixels contained in your image file. > Nothing more and nothing less. Paint does not print anything. It simply > tranfers the file to your printer. Select the print size. > Get some free software from here to edit and print your images: > www.faststone.org > and forget about Paint. > > "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > news:%23GhOoxC5FHA.4036@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > >I did not write about pixel dimensions, I wrote about resolution. The Paint > > changes resolution and length dimensions of a scanned image, not pixel > > dimensions, therefore, Paint prints a 600 dpi image 6+ times larger. > > "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: > > news:uM5fnM84FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > >> I don't think anything is wrong. > >> The 96 dpi displayed by Paint is simply your monitor display. > >> Open the Properties of the file and check the pixel dimensions of it. It > >> should have the same pixel dimensions as the original file, say, > >> something > >> like: > >> 1200 x 800. > >> > >> > >> "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > >> news:eshXZf54FHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > >> > Hello > >> > How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files from 600 to > >> > 96 > >> > dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving them the > > files > >> > become 96 dpi. > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > |
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The problem comes from the fact that dpi (dot per inch, and used for
printing)) and ppi (pixel per inch and used for video display) are often used interchangeably. Say you have a photo at 5000 x 4000 pixels. Your screen display is set at either 72 or 96 ppi. Thus 5000/72= 69.4 and 4000/72= 55.5 inches. This means that at 72 ppi, you could fill a screen of 69.4 x 55.5 inches. The displayed photo would look pretty bad. Instead, the software works to place this photo to fit your screen size, and it looks very good. Now you want to print. Can you print at 69.4 x 55.5 inches. The answer is yes (provided you have a printer that can do this), but the print would be terrible. To print, a rule of thumb is you need 300 dpi for a great print. So for the above photo you have: 5000/300= 16.6 and 4000/300= 13.3 inches. You can reduce this 300 dpi to about 200 dpi and still get a fairly good print. Below 200 the quality will deteriorate rapidly. So, with your tif file, look at the pixel dimensions of the file. This will tell you (using 300 dpi as a start) how large a high quality print you can make. There is no reason to use Paint for editing or printing. It is just too old and so much free software is available to do this much better. "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message news:uXWwkFF5FHA.884@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > Resolution is number of dots per inch. Pixel dimensions are the size in > pixels. They are different things. > If you think it is impossible, then try yourself, scan a A4 sheet with 600 > dpi resolution to a 1bit tif and try to print it from Paint with 100% size > in the Page setup. Paint will print just 1/6 of the image. > I did not write about size on screen, but about size on a printed paper. > I do not want to "Select the print size", I want the Pain to print with the > original size stated in a tif. > "yves alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: > news:OSltkyE5FHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > Pixel dimensions and resolution are the same thing! > > Paint does not print anything 6+ times larger. Impossible. > > What you see from Paint is the size that your image would occupy on your > > screen, at 96 dpi, with the number of pixels contained in your image file. > > Nothing more and nothing less. Paint does not print anything. It simply > > tranfers the file to your printer. Select the print size. > > Get some free software from here to edit and print your images: > > www.faststone.org > > and forget about Paint. > > > > "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > > news:%23GhOoxC5FHA.4036@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > > >I did not write about pixel dimensions, I wrote about resolution. The > Paint > > > changes resolution and length dimensions of a scanned image, not pixel > > > dimensions, therefore, Paint prints a 600 dpi image 6+ times larger. > > > "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: > > > news:uM5fnM84FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > >> I don't think anything is wrong. > > >> The 96 dpi displayed by Paint is simply your monitor display. > > >> Open the Properties of the file and check the pixel dimensions of it. > It > > >> should have the same pixel dimensions as the original file, say, > > >> something > > >> like: > > >> 1200 x 800. > > >> > > >> > > >> "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > > >> news:eshXZf54FHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > > >> > Hello > > >> > How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files from 600 to > > >> > 96 > > >> > dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving them the > > > files > > >> > become 96 dpi. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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Yves.
Does the free software require to "Select the print size" too? Does not it see original image size in centimeters or inches in tif file too? I want to print with exactly the same size as the original scanned paper image, not with the size which gives "a high quality print". "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: news:OT74GNH5FHA.1464@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > The problem comes from the fact that dpi (dot per inch, and used for > printing)) and ppi (pixel per inch and used for video display) are often > used interchangeably. > Say you have a photo at 5000 x 4000 pixels. > Your screen display is set at either 72 or 96 ppi. > Thus 5000/72= 69.4 and 4000/72= 55.5 inches. > This means that at 72 ppi, you could fill a screen of 69.4 x 55.5 inches. > The displayed photo would look pretty bad. Instead, the software works to > place this photo to fit your screen size, and it looks very good. > > Now you want to print. Can you print at 69.4 x 55.5 inches. The answer is > yes (provided you have a printer that can do this), but the print would be > terrible. > > To print, a rule of thumb is you need 300 dpi for a great print. > So for the above photo you have: > 5000/300= 16.6 and 4000/300= 13.3 inches. > You can reduce this 300 dpi to about 200 dpi and still get a fairly good > print. Below 200 the quality will deteriorate rapidly. > > So, with your tif file, look at the pixel dimensions of the file. This will > tell you (using 300 dpi as a start) how large a high quality print you can > make. > > There is no reason to use Paint for editing or printing. It is just too old > and so much free software is available to do this much better. > > > "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > news:uXWwkFF5FHA.884@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > > Resolution is number of dots per inch. Pixel dimensions are the size in > > pixels. They are different things. > > If you think it is impossible, then try yourself, scan a A4 sheet with 600 > > dpi resolution to a 1bit tif and try to print it from Paint with 100% size > > in the Page setup. Paint will print just 1/6 of the image. > > I did not write about size on screen, but about size on a printed paper. > > I do not want to "Select the print size", I want the Pain to print with > the > > original size stated in a tif. > > "yves alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: > > news:OSltkyE5FHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > > Pixel dimensions and resolution are the same thing! > > > Paint does not print anything 6+ times larger. Impossible. > > > What you see from Paint is the size that your image would occupy on your > > > screen, at 96 dpi, with the number of pixels contained in your image > file. > > > Nothing more and nothing less. Paint does not print anything. It simply > > > tranfers the file to your printer. Select the print size. > > > Get some free software from here to edit and print your images: > > > www.faststone.org > > > and forget about Paint. > > > > > > "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > > > news:%23GhOoxC5FHA.4036@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > > > >I did not write about pixel dimensions, I wrote about resolution. The > > Paint > > > > changes resolution and length dimensions of a scanned image, not pixel > > > > dimensions, therefore, Paint prints a 600 dpi image 6+ times larger. > > > > "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: > > > > news:uM5fnM84FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > > >> I don't think anything is wrong. > > > >> The 96 dpi displayed by Paint is simply your monitor display. > > > >> Open the Properties of the file and check the pixel dimensions of it. > > It > > > >> should have the same pixel dimensions as the original file, say, > > > >> something > > > >> like: > > > >> 1200 x 800. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > > > >> news:eshXZf54FHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > > > >> > Hello > > > >> > How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files from 600 > to > > > >> > 96 > > > >> > dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving them > the > > > > files > > > >> > become 96 dpi. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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No printing software "sees" centimeters or inches. The dimensions of an
image is in pixels only and this is the only thing the printing software sees about your image. No inches or centimeters (see my answer to your message of 5:44AM). When you print, you must select a size in inches or centimeters. The software takes the dimensions of your image in pixels and prints the size you select. For a very good print, take the dimensions of your image in pixels and divide by 300 to get an idea of how large a print you can make, if you want a smaller print than the answer below there is no problem. So if the dimensions of your image are 5000 x 4000 pixels, you can print at 16.6 x 13.3 inches. You can reduce 300 down to 200 and still get a decent print of a larger size. Below 200 the quality of the print will deteriorate pretty quickly. Faststone will give you the options such as "fit to page" or "specified size". It will give you a "preview" of how the image will be printed on the page by your printer. However, there is another problem that you must solve before you print. You must fit the aspect ratio of your image to the aspect ratio of the paper size you select. The aspect ratio is simply dividing the width by the height of the pixel dimensions. In the example above it would be 5000/4000= 1.25. So if you print on 10 x 8 in. paper size, 10/8= 1.25 and the image will fit perfectly. If you print on 6 x 4 in. paper size, 6/4= 1.5. The image will not fit and Faststone will show you (in the print preview window) how the image will be automatically cropped to fit the size you selected. If this is not to your liking. after you open the image with Faststone, use the crop tool. Crop the image to the paper size you want to use, placing the crop where you want it, then print using the paper size you cropped the image with. Faststone will also let you save the cropped image, with no alteration to your original file. Go with this option since you may want to print at a different size in the future and you will want to crop the original image. "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message news:enBxiJF5FHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > Yves. > Do the free software from www.faststone.org treat pixel dimensions and > resolution as the same things too? Do they require to "Select the print > size" too? Do not they see original image size in centimeters or inches too? > "yves alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: > news:OSltkyE5FHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > Pixel dimensions and resolution are the same thing! > > Paint does not print anything 6+ times larger. Impossible. > > What you see from Paint is the size that your image would occupy on your > > screen, at 96 dpi, with the number of pixels contained in your image file. > > Nothing more and nothing less. Paint does not print anything. It simply > > tranfers the file to your printer. Select the print size. > > Get some free software from here to edit and print your images: > > www.faststone.org > > and forget about Paint. > > > > "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > > news:%23GhOoxC5FHA.4036@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > > >I did not write about pixel dimensions, I wrote about resolution. The > Paint > > > changes resolution and length dimensions of a scanned image, not pixel > > > dimensions, therefore, Paint prints a 600 dpi image 6+ times larger. > > > "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: > > > news:uM5fnM84FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > >> I don't think anything is wrong. > > >> The 96 dpi displayed by Paint is simply your monitor display. > > >> Open the Properties of the file and check the pixel dimensions of it. > It > > >> should have the same pixel dimensions as the original file, say, > > >> something > > >> like: > > >> 1200 x 800. > > >> > > >> > > >> "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > > >> news:eshXZf54FHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > > >> > Hello > > >> > How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files from 600 to > > >> > 96 > > >> > dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving them the > > > files > > >> > become 96 dpi. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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Also check out almost everyone's favorite free Windows-based
image viewing/manipulation software known as IrfanView at: http://www.irfanview.com "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> wrote in message news:ewi1elH5FHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > No printing software "sees" centimeters or inches. The dimensions of an > image is in pixels only and this is the only thing the printing software > sees about your image. No inches or centimeters (see my answer to your > message of 5:44AM). > > When you print, you must select a size in inches or centimeters. The > software takes the dimensions of your image in pixels and prints the size > you select. > For a very good print, take the dimensions of your image in pixels and > divide by 300 to get an idea of how large a print you can make, if you want > a smaller print than the answer below there is no problem. > So if the dimensions of your image are 5000 x 4000 pixels, you can print at > 16.6 x 13.3 inches. You can reduce 300 down to 200 and still get a decent > print of a larger size. Below 200 the quality of the print will deteriorate > pretty quickly. > Faststone will give you the options such as "fit to page" or "specified > size". It will give you a "preview" of how the image will be printed on the > page by your printer. > > However, there is another problem that you must solve before you print. You > must fit the aspect ratio of your image to the aspect ratio of the paper > size you select. > > The aspect ratio is simply dividing the width by the height of the pixel > dimensions. > In the example above it would be 5000/4000= 1.25. > So if you print on 10 x 8 in. paper size, 10/8= 1.25 and the image will fit > perfectly. > If you print on 6 x 4 in. paper size, 6/4= 1.5. The image will not fit and > Faststone will show you (in the print preview window) how the image will be > automatically cropped to fit the size you selected. If this is not to your > liking. after you open the image with Faststone, use the crop tool. Crop the > image to the paper size you want to use, placing the crop where you want it, > then print using the paper size you cropped the image with. Faststone will > also let you save the cropped image, with no alteration to your original > file. Go with this option since you may want to print at a different size in > the future and you will want to crop the original image. > > > > "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > news:enBxiJF5FHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >> Yves. >> Do the free software from www.faststone.org treat pixel dimensions and >> resolution as the same things too? Do they require to "Select the print >> size" too? Do not they see original image size in centimeters or inches > too? >> "yves alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: >> news:OSltkyE5FHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> > Pixel dimensions and resolution are the same thing! >> > Paint does not print anything 6+ times larger. Impossible. >> > What you see from Paint is the size that your image would occupy on your >> > screen, at 96 dpi, with the number of pixels contained in your image > file. >> > Nothing more and nothing less. Paint does not print anything. It simply >> > tranfers the file to your printer. Select the print size. >> > Get some free software from here to edit and print your images: >> > www.faststone.org >> > and forget about Paint. >> > >> > "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message >> > news:%23GhOoxC5FHA.4036@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >> > >I did not write about pixel dimensions, I wrote about resolution. The >> Paint >> > > changes resolution and length dimensions of a scanned image, not pixel >> > > dimensions, therefore, Paint prints a 600 dpi image 6+ times larger. >> > > "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: >> > > news:uM5fnM84FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> > >> I don't think anything is wrong. >> > >> The 96 dpi displayed by Paint is simply your monitor display. >> > >> Open the Properties of the file and check the pixel dimensions of it. >> It >> > >> should have the same pixel dimensions as the original file, say, >> > >> something >> > >> like: >> > >> 1200 x 800. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message >> > >> news:eshXZf54FHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> > >> > Hello >> > >> > How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files from 600 > to >> > >> > 96 >> > >> > dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving them > the >> > > files >> > >> > become 96 dpi. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > |
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