Monitors: flatscreen vs. CRT

I am noticing a distinct difference in the appearance of photographs on my
LCD flatscreen and my CRT monitor.

Is this a good forum for asking advice, or can someone direct me to the
correct forum?

Thanks,

Charax

You check the following site:
www.dpreview.com
Many forums there about digital photography.
Check the PC tools forum. You can also search this site with keywords such
as LCD and CRT.

"Charax" <chopkins@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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> I am noticing a distinct difference in the appearance of photographs on my
> LCD flatscreen and my CRT monitor.
>
> Is this a good forum for asking advice, or can someone direct me to the
> correct forum?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charax
>

Hello Yves,

Have you set your monitors up to be color managed? Color can appear quite
different between monitors if you have not set them up to display colors
according to your monitor's local variables (temperature, age of monitor,
lighting, etc).

Your monitor may have shipped with a default color profile. You can check
in this manner:
1) Right-click on your desktop
2) Click 'properties'
3) Click on the 'settings' tab
4) Click the 'Advanced' button
5) Click on the 'Color Management' tab
6) Click the 'Add' button

Be aware that the default color profiles do not often change the color that
drastically, so this may not fix your problem.

A better (although costlier) solution is to invest in a color management
system. These normally come with sensors ('pucks') that will read the light
being emitted by your particular monitor and help to adjust it to display
color properly. You can find these easily on the internet by doing a search
for 'color management system'.

Hope this helps!

-- Rolf

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"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> wrote in message
news:uH56D9F7FHA.3660@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> You check the following site:
> www.dpreview.com
> Many forums there about digital photography.
> Check the PC tools forum. You can also search this site with keywords such
> as LCD and CRT.
>
> "Charax" <chopkins@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:u870YRF7FHA.3648@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > I am noticing a distinct difference in the appearance of photographs on
my
> > LCD flatscreen and my CRT monitor.
> >
> > Is this a good forum for asking advice, or can someone direct me to the
> > correct forum?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Charax
> >
>
>

Hi Rolf.
I have no problem with color management.
I think that the big problem with LCD screen is not really the LCD screen
itself. I work with both LCD and CRT and they both work well.
The problem with LCD screens is the viewing angle. With my desktop computer,
the LCD screen connected to it has been in place and I simply do not move it
and I sit in front of it pretty much the same way everyday. So I know what
to expect and I know how the picture on my screen will print.
With my laptop, this is a different story. I simply cannot rely on it to
edit photos because the viewing angle is not reproducible from day to day.
So depending upon the viewing angle, the photo may be a little too dark or
too light and if adjusted with photo editing software you never know how the
picture will be printed. To me this is not a color management problem. It
would be the same thing, but not as pronounced, if my laptop had a CRT
screen (not that this is available!) and the screen was placed at a slightly
different angle from day to day when opening of the laptop.

"Rolf Buchner [MSFT]" <rolfbuch@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:eJ0htXI7FHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hello Yves,
>
> Have you set your monitors up to be color managed? Color can appear quite
> different between monitors if you have not set them up to display colors
> according to your monitor's local variables (temperature, age of monitor,
> lighting, etc).
>
> Your monitor may have shipped with a default color profile. You can check
> in this manner:
> 1) Right-click on your desktop
> 2) Click 'properties'
> 3) Click on the 'settings' tab
> 4) Click the 'Advanced' button
> 5) Click on the 'Color Management' tab
> 6) Click the 'Add' button
>
> Be aware that the default color profiles do not often change the color
that
> drastically, so this may not fix your problem.
>
> A better (although costlier) solution is to invest in a color management
> system. These normally come with sensors ('pucks') that will read the
light
> being emitted by your particular monitor and help to adjust it to display
> color properly. You can find these easily on the internet by doing a
search
> for 'color management system'.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> -- Rolf
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
> Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
> http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
>
> "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> wrote in message
> news:uH56D9F7FHA.3660@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > You check the following site:
> > www.dpreview.com
> > Many forums there about digital photography.
> > Check the PC tools forum. You can also search this site with keywords
such
> > as LCD and CRT.
> >
> > "Charax" <chopkins@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> > news:u870YRF7FHA.3648@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > I am noticing a distinct difference in the appearance of photographs
on
> my
> > > LCD flatscreen and my CRT monitor.
> > >
> > > Is this a good forum for asking advice, or can someone direct me to
the
> > > correct forum?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Charax
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

It used to be quite common for LCD displays to exhibit very rapid and
disturbing changes in displayed colors and brightness with changing
viewing angle, usually at different rates for horizontal shifts than
for vertical shifts.

When I purchased my LCD display a couple of years ago, I knew that I
would be using it for photo editing, so I made a point of finding a
display that had a relatively wide range of viewing angles for which
color and brightness were essentially constant.

Some laptops now have relatively wide viewing angles, while others
are rather narrow. Some business users even consider a laptop display
with a wide viewing angle to be a problem, since it allows people
sitting near them to read their screens! (A product has even been
introduced to create an artificially narrow viewing angle to deal
with this concern. ;-)

As more people use laptops for photo editing and for movie viewing
for more than one person, you can expect the typical laptop display
viewing angle to improve significantly.

-michael


Yves Alarie wrote:
> Hi Rolf.
> I have no problem with color management.
> I think that the big problem with LCD screen is not really the LCD screen
> itself. I work with both LCD and CRT and they both work well.
> The problem with LCD screens is the viewing angle. With my desktop computer,
> the LCD screen connected to it has been in place and I simply do not move it
> and I sit in front of it pretty much the same way everyday. So I know what
> to expect and I know how the picture on my screen will print.
> With my laptop, this is a different story. I simply cannot rely on it to
> edit photos because the viewing angle is not reproducible from day to day.
> So depending upon the viewing angle, the photo may be a little too dark or
> too light and if adjusted with photo editing software you never know how the
> picture will be printed. To me this is not a color management problem. It
> would be the same thing, but not as pronounced, if my laptop had a CRT
> screen (not that this is available!) and the screen was placed at a slightly
> different angle from day to day when opening of the laptop.
>
> "Rolf Buchner [MSFT]" <rolfbuch@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:eJ0htXI7FHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
>>Hello Yves,
>>
>>Have you set your monitors up to be color managed? Color can appear quite
>>different between monitors if you have not set them up to display colors
>>according to your monitor's local variables (temperature, age of monitor,
>>lighting, etc).
>>
>>Your monitor may have shipped with a default color profile. You can check
>>in this manner:
>> 1) Right-click on your desktop
>> 2) Click 'properties'
>> 3) Click on the 'settings' tab
>> 4) Click the 'Advanced' button
>> 5) Click on the 'Color Management' tab
>> 6) Click the 'Add' button
>>
>>Be aware that the default color profiles do not often change the color
>
> that
>
>>drastically, so this may not fix your problem.
>>
>>A better (although costlier) solution is to invest in a color management
>>system. These normally come with sensors ('pucks') that will read the
>
> light
>
>>being emitted by your particular monitor and help to adjust it to display
>>color properly. You can find these easily on the internet by doing a
>
> search
>
>>for 'color management system'.
>>
>>Hope this helps!
>>
>>-- Rolf
>>
>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>
> rights.
>
>>Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
>>http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
>>
>>"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> wrote in message
>>news:uH56D9F7FHA.3660@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>You check the following site:
>>>www.dpreview.com
>>>Many forums there about digital photography.
>>>Check the PC tools forum. You can also search this site with keywords
>
> such
>
>>>as LCD and CRT.
>>>
>>>"Charax" <chopkins@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>>>news:u870YRF7FHA.3648@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>>I am noticing a distinct difference in the appearance of photographs
>
> on
>
>>my
>>
>>>>LCD flatscreen and my CRT monitor.
>>>>
>>>>Is this a good forum for asking advice, or can someone direct me to
>
> the
>
>>>>correct forum?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Charax

Hello Yves,

I absolutely agree with you about the problems inherent in trying to get
accurate colors. Sadly, the problem is not limited to just CRT vs. LCD, as
even a printed picture can look vastly different in various lighting
conditions. Heck, our own eyes are not 100% consistent from day to day,
even if we were able to lock down all the other variables!

CM will help, but as you correctly point out, cannot solve the problem
completely.

Thanks,
Rolf

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"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> wrote in message
news:eFrxggL7FHA.2624@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi Rolf.
> I have no problem with color management.
> I think that the big problem with LCD screen is not really the LCD screen
> itself. I work with both LCD and CRT and they both work well.
> The problem with LCD screens is the viewing angle. With my desktop
computer,
> the LCD screen connected to it has been in place and I simply do not move
it
> and I sit in front of it pretty much the same way everyday. So I know what
> to expect and I know how the picture on my screen will print.
> With my laptop, this is a different story. I simply cannot rely on it to
> edit photos because the viewing angle is not reproducible from day to day.
> So depending upon the viewing angle, the photo may be a little too dark or
> too light and if adjusted with photo editing software you never know how
the
> picture will be printed. To me this is not a color management problem. It
> would be the same thing, but not as pronounced, if my laptop had a CRT
> screen (not that this is available!) and the screen was placed at a
slightly
> different angle from day to day when opening of the laptop.
>
> "Rolf Buchner [MSFT]" <rolfbuch@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:eJ0htXI7FHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Hello Yves,
> >
> > Have you set your monitors up to be color managed? Color can appear
quite
> > different between monitors if you have not set them up to display colors
> > according to your monitor's local variables (temperature, age of
monitor,
> > lighting, etc).
> >
> > Your monitor may have shipped with a default color profile. You can
check
> > in this manner:
> > 1) Right-click on your desktop
> > 2) Click 'properties'
> > 3) Click on the 'settings' tab
> > 4) Click the 'Advanced' button
> > 5) Click on the 'Color Management' tab
> > 6) Click the 'Add' button
> >
> > Be aware that the default color profiles do not often change the color
> that
> > drastically, so this may not fix your problem.
> >
> > A better (although costlier) solution is to invest in a color management
> > system. These normally come with sensors ('pucks') that will read the
> light
> > being emitted by your particular monitor and help to adjust it to
display
> > color properly. You can find these easily on the internet by doing a
> search
> > for 'color management system'.
> >
> > Hope this helps!
> >
> > -- Rolf
> >
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> > Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
> > http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
> >
> > "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> wrote in message
> > news:uH56D9F7FHA.3660@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > You check the following site:
> > > www.dpreview.com
> > > Many forums there about digital photography.
> > > Check the PC tools forum. You can also search this site with keywords
> such
> > > as LCD and CRT.
> > >
> > > "Charax" <chopkins@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> > > news:u870YRF7FHA.3648@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > I am noticing a distinct difference in the appearance of photographs
> on
> > my
> > > > LCD flatscreen and my CRT monitor.
> > > >
> > > > Is this a good forum for asking advice, or can someone direct me to
> the
> > > > correct forum?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Charax
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>