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The problem is - Even if Paint reads an original scan resolutions, it still
prints it as an image with 96 dpi resolution, not the original scan resolutions, with different than the original size. "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????: news:%23Br4JnU5FHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > All tiff file formats are NOT the same. MS Paint will read SOME original > scan resolutions and not others. If you give it a format that it DOESN'T > read the "dpi" of, it DEFAULTS to 91 dpi. Simple as that. You CAN'T > change MS Paint, so YOU must use a tif format that the "dpi" is read. > > Dmitry Kopnichev wrote: > > MS Photoeditor, Adobe Photoshop and others divide dimensions in pixels not > > by an arbitrary number, but by the original scan resolution in dpi. How to > > make Paint read the original scan resolution in dpi from a tif file? > > "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: > > news:OPFZMlT5FHA.3636@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > > >>The software you have does not see the image file in centimeter or inches. > >>It calculates it for you. It makes this calculation by simply taking the > >>dimensions of the image in pixels and divides this by an arbitrary number > >>such as 72 or 96 to yield and image size in inches. > >>Look at the pixel dimensions of your image and divide by 72 or 96 and you > >>will get the same answer. > >>But this is not good for printing. > >> > >> > >>"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > >>news:%23yk8MWP5FHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl.. . > >> > >>>MS Photoeditor (which is Part of MS Office), Adobe Photoshop and others > >> > >>see > >> > >>>tif image size in centimeters or inches. > >>>"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: > >>>news:ewi1elH5FHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > >>> > >>>>No printing software "sees" centimeters or inches. The dimensions of > > > > an > > > >>>>image is in pixels only and this is the only thing the printing > > > > software > > > >>>>sees about your image. No inches or centimeters (see my answer to your > >>>>message of 5:44AM). > >>>> > >>>>When you print, you must select a size in inches or centimeters. The > >>>>software takes the dimensions of your image in pixels and prints the > >> > >>size > >> > >>>>you select. > >>>>For a very good print, take the dimensions of your image in pixels and > >>>>divide by 300 to get an idea of how large a print you can make, if you > >>> > >>>want > >>> > >>>>a smaller print than the answer below there is no problem. > >>>>So if the dimensions of your image are 5000 x 4000 pixels, you can > > > > > >>>at > >>> > >>>>16.6 x 13.3 inches. You can reduce 300 down to 200 and still get a > >> > >>decent > >> > >>>>print of a larger size. Below 200 the quality of the print will > >>> > >>>deteriorate > >>> > >>>>pretty quickly. > >>>>Faststone will give you the options such as "fit to page" or > > > > "specified > > > >>>>size". It will give you a "preview" of how the image will be printed > > > > on > > > >>>the > >>> > >>>>page by your printer. > >>>> > >>>>However, there is another problem that you must solve before you > > > > print. > > > >>>You > >>> > >>>>must fit the aspect ratio of your image to the aspect ratio of the > > > > paper > > > >>>>size you select. > >>>> > >>>>The aspect ratio is simply dividing the width by the height of the > > > > pixel > > > >>>>dimensions. > >>>>In the example above it would be 5000/4000= 1.25. > >>>>So if you print on 10 x 8 in. paper size, 10/8= 1.25 and the image > > > > will > > > >>>fit > >>> > >>>>perfectly. > >>>>If you print on 6 x 4 in. paper size, 6/4= 1.5. The image will not fit > >> > >>and > >> > >>>>Faststone will show you (in the print preview window) how the image > > > > will > > > >>>be > >>> > >>>>automatically cropped to fit the size you selected. If this is not to > >> > >>your > >> > >>>>liking. after you open the image with Faststone, use the crop tool. > > > > Crop > > > >>>the > >>> > >>>>image to the paper size you want to use, placing the crop where you > > > > want > > > >>>it, > >>> > >>>>then print using the paper size you cropped the image with. Faststone > >> > >>will > >> > >>>>also let you save the cropped image, with no alteration to your > > > > original > > > >>>>file. Go with this option since you may want to print at a different > >> > >>size > >> > >>>in > >>> > >>>>the future and you will want to crop the original image. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > >>>>news:enBxiJF5FHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl.. . > >>>> > >>>>>Yves. > >>>>>Do the free software from www.faststone.org treat pixel dimensions > > > > and > > > >>>>>resolution as the same things too? Do they require to "Select the > >> > >> > >>>>>size" too? Do not they see original image size in centimeters or > >> > >>inches > >> > >>>>too? > >>>> > >>>>>"yves alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях > > > > следующее: > > > >>>>>news:OSltkyE5FHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > >>>>> > >>>>>>Pixel dimensions and resolution are the same thing! > >>>>>>Paint does not print anything 6+ times larger. Impossible. > >>>>>>What you see from Paint is the size that your image would occupy > > > > on > > > >>>your > >>> > >>>>>>screen, at 96 dpi, with the number of pixels contained in your > > > > image > > > >>>>file. > >>>> > >>>>>>Nothing more and nothing less. Paint does not print anything. It > >>> > >>>simply > >>> > >>>>>>tranfers the file to your printer. Select the print size. > >>>>>>Get some free software from here to edit and print your images: > >>>>>>www.faststone.org > >>>>>>and forget about Paint. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:%23GhOoxC5FHA.4036@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl ... > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>I did not write about pixel dimensions, I wrote about resolution. > >> > >>The > >> > >>>>>Paint > >>>>> > >>>>>>>changes resolution and length dimensions of a scanned image, not > >>> > >>>pixel > >>> > >>>>>>>dimensions, therefore, Paint prints a 600 dpi image 6+ times > >> > >>larger. > >> > >>>>>>>"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях > >>> > >>>следующее: > >>> > >>>>>>>news:uM5fnM84FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl. .. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>I don't think anything is wrong. > >>>>>>>>The 96 dpi displayed by Paint is simply your monitor display. > >>>>>>>>Open the Properties of the file and check the pixel dimensions > > > > of > > > >>>it. > >>> > >>>>>It > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>should have the same pixel dimensions as the original file, > > > > say, > > > >>>>>>>>something > >>>>>>>>like: > >>>>>>>>1200 x 800. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>news:eshXZf54FHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl ... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Hello > >>>>>>>>>How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files > > > > from > > > >>>600 > >>> > >>>>to > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>96 > >>>>>>>>>dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving > >> > >>them > >> > >>>>the > >>>> > >>>>>>>files > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>become 96 dpi. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > > |
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Microsoft Photo Editor does not have an Eraser and a Pencil tools, does it?
"RobertVA" <robert_c72AThotmail@invalid.com> ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????: news:emQWkYZ5FHA.1000@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > Dmitry Kopnichev wrote: > > Hello > > How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files from 600 to 96 > > dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving them the files > > become 96 dpi. > > Paint doesn't do DPI or image dimensions in real world dimensions like > inces or milimeters. It was written when printers would only do 300 DPI > and had to use a cluster of several of those dots to print very many > different colors. Thus it prints at some really low resolution like 75 DPI. > > Paint is really a VERY PRIMATIVE demonstration application that comes > with Windows. Don't expect too much from it. If you want better > capabilities look for a bitmap editing application like Microsoft Photo > Editor, Corel Photopaint or JASC Paintshop (there are others I haven't > tried). It's common for such programs to come bundled with digital > cameras, scanners and Multi Function Devices (MFDs combo > scanner/printer/fax machine). > |
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What is an intuitively understandable program with MS Paint capabilities,
which prints with an original scan resolution? "RobertVA" <robert_c72AThotmail@invalid.com> ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????: news:emQWkYZ5FHA.1000@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > Dmitry Kopnichev wrote: > > Hello > > How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files from 600 to 96 > > dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving them the files > > become 96 dpi. > > Paint doesn't do DPI or image dimensions in real world dimensions like > inces or milimeters. It was written when printers would only do 300 DPI > and had to use a cluster of several of those dots to print very many > different colors. Thus it prints at some really low resolution like 75 DPI. > > Paint is really a VERY PRIMATIVE demonstration application that comes > with Windows. Don't expect too much from it. If you want better > capabilities look for a bitmap editing application like Microsoft Photo > Editor, Corel Photopaint or JASC Paintshop (there are others I haven't > tried). It's common for such programs to come bundled with digital > cameras, scanners and Multi Function Devices (MFDs combo > scanner/printer/fax machine). > |
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If the "print size" is the issue, go into Page Setup and set the scale.
if it prints at 96 and the original was 300 dpi 300/96*100=312% Dmitry Kopnichev wrote: > The problem is - Even if Paint reads an original scan resolutions, it still > prints it as an image with 96 dpi resolution, not the original scan > resolutions, with different than the original size. > "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????: > news:%23Br4JnU5FHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > >>All tiff file formats are NOT the same. MS Paint will read SOME original >>scan resolutions and not others. If you give it a format that it DOESN'T >>read the "dpi" of, it DEFAULTS to 91 dpi. Simple as that. You CAN'T >>change MS Paint, so YOU must use a tif format that the "dpi" is read. >> >>Dmitry Kopnichev wrote: >> >>>MS Photoeditor, Adobe Photoshop and others divide dimensions in pixels > > not > >>>by an arbitrary number, but by the original scan resolution in dpi. How > > to > >>>make Paint read the original scan resolution in dpi from a tif file? >>>"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: >>>news:OPFZMlT5FHA.3636@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >>> >>> >>>>The software you have does not see the image file in centimeter or > > inches. > >>>>It calculates it for you. It makes this calculation by simply taking the >>>>dimensions of the image in pixels and divides this by an arbitrary > > number > >>>>such as 72 or 96 to yield and image size in inches. >>>>Look at the pixel dimensions of your image and divide by 72 or 96 and > > you > >>>>will get the same answer. >>>>But this is not good for printing. >>>> >>>> >>>>"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message >>>>news:%23yk8MWP5FHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl.. . >>>> >>>> >>>>>MS Photoeditor (which is Part of MS Office), Adobe Photoshop and others >>>> >>>>see >>>> >>>> >>>>>tif image size in centimeters or inches. >>>>>"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: >>>>>news:ewi1elH5FHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>No printing software "sees" centimeters or inches. The dimensions of >>> >>>an >>> >>> >>>>>>image is in pixels only and this is the only thing the printing >>> >>>software >>> >>> >>>>>>sees about your image. No inches or centimeters (see my answer to your >>>>>>message of 5:44AM). >>>>>> >>>>>>When you print, you must select a size in inches or centimeters. The >>>>>>software takes the dimensions of your image in pixels and prints the >>>> >>>>size >>>> >>>> >>>>>>you select. >>>>>>For a very good print, take the dimensions of your image in pixels and >>>>>>divide by 300 to get an idea of how large a print you can make, if you >>>>> >>>>>want >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>a smaller print than the answer below there is no problem. >>>>>>So if the dimensions of your image are 5000 x 4000 pixels, you can >>> >>> >>> >>>>>at >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>16.6 x 13.3 inches. You can reduce 300 down to 200 and still get a >>>> >>>>decent >>>> >>>> >>>>>>print of a larger size. Below 200 the quality of the print will >>>>> >>>>>deteriorate >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>pretty quickly. >>>>>>Faststone will give you the options such as "fit to page" or >>> >>>"specified >>> >>> >>>>>>size". It will give you a "preview" of how the image will be printed >>> >>>on >>> >>> >>>>>the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>page by your printer. >>>>>> >>>>>>However, there is another problem that you must solve before you >>> >>>print. >>> >>> >>>>>You >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>must fit the aspect ratio of your image to the aspect ratio of the >>> >>>paper >>> >>> >>>>>>size you select. >>>>>> >>>>>>The aspect ratio is simply dividing the width by the height of the >>> >>>pixel >>> >>> >>>>>>dimensions. >>>>>>In the example above it would be 5000/4000= 1.25. >>>>>>So if you print on 10 x 8 in. paper size, 10/8= 1.25 and the image >>> >>>will >>> >>> >>>>>fit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>perfectly. >>>>>>If you print on 6 x 4 in. paper size, 6/4= 1.5. The image will not fit >>>> >>>>and >>>> >>>> >>>>>>Faststone will show you (in the print preview window) how the image >>> >>>will >>> >>> >>>>>be >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>automatically cropped to fit the size you selected. If this is not to >>>> >>>>your >>>> >>>> >>>>>>liking. after you open the image with Faststone, use the crop tool. >>> >>>Crop >>> >>> >>>>>the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>image to the paper size you want to use, placing the crop where you >>> >>>want >>> >>> >>>>>it, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>then print using the paper size you cropped the image with. Faststone >>>> >>>>will >>>> >>>> >>>>>>also let you save the cropped image, with no alteration to your >>> >>>original >>> >>> >>>>>>file. Go with this option since you may want to print at a different >>>> >>>>size >>>> >>>> >>>>>in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>the future and you will want to crop the original image. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message >>>>>>news:enBxiJF5FHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl.. . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Yves. >>>>>>>Do the free software from www.faststone.org treat pixel dimensions >>> >>>and >>> >>> >>>>>>>resolution as the same things too? Do they require to "Select the >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>size" too? Do not they see original image size in centimeters or >>>> >>>>inches >>>> >>>> >>>>>>too? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>"yves alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях >>> >>>следующее: >>> >>> >>>>>>>news:OSltkyE5FHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl. .. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Pixel dimensions and resolution are the same thing! >>>>>>>>Paint does not print anything 6+ times larger. Impossible. >>>>>>>>What you see from Paint is the size that your image would occupy >>> >>>on >>> >>> >>>>>your >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>screen, at 96 dpi, with the number of pixels contained in your >>> >>>image >>> >>> >>>>>>file. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>Nothing more and nothing less. Paint does not print anything. It >>>>> >>>>>simply >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>tranfers the file to your printer. Select the print size. >>>>>>>>Get some free software from here to edit and print your images: >>>>>>>>www.faststone.org >>>>>>>>and forget about Paint. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message >>>>>>>>news:%23GhOoxC5FHA.4036@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.g bl... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I did not write about pixel dimensions, I wrote about resolution. >>>> >>>>The >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>Paint >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>changes resolution and length dimensions of a scanned image, not >>>>> >>>>>pixel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>dimensions, therefore, Paint prints a 600 dpi image 6+ times >>>> >>>>larger. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях >>>>> >>>>>следующее: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>news:uM5fnM84FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gb l... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I don't think anything is wrong. >>>>>>>>>>The 96 dpi displayed by Paint is simply your monitor display. >>>>>>>>>>Open the Properties of the file and check the pixel dimensions >>> >>>of >>> >>> >>>>>it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>It >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>should have the same pixel dimensions as the original file, >>> >>>say, >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>something >>>>>>>>>>like: >>>>>>>>>>1200 x 800. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>news:eshXZf54FHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.g bl... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Hello >>>>>>>>>>>How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files >>> >>>from >>> >>> >>>>>600 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>96 >>>>>>>>>>>dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving >>>> >>>>them >>>> >>>> >>>>>>the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>files >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>become 96 dpi. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> > > |
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I all you want is the MS Paint editing capabilities, then edit with MS Paint
and save the edited file. Then open the folder where you saved the file, click on it to select it (highlight file name in blue) and look at the menu on the left and click on Print this file. The XP print wizard will open, follow directions including the printer set up preferences, click on print and you are done. "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message news:u9Qwpsc5FHA.2036@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > What is an intuitively understandable program with MS Paint capabilities, > which prints with an original scan resolution? > "RobertVA" <robert_c72AThotmail@invalid.com> ???????/???????? ? ???????? > ?????????: news:emQWkYZ5FHA.1000@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > Dmitry Kopnichev wrote: > > > Hello > > > How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files from 600 to 96 > > > dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving them the > files > > > become 96 dpi. > > > > Paint doesn't do DPI or image dimensions in real world dimensions like > > inces or milimeters. It was written when printers would only do 300 DPI > > and had to use a cluster of several of those dots to print very many > > different colors. Thus it prints at some really low resolution like 75 > DPI. > > > > Paint is really a VERY PRIMATIVE demonstration application that comes > > with Windows. Don't expect too much from it. If you want better > > capabilities look for a bitmap editing application like Microsoft Photo > > Editor, Corel Photopaint or JASC Paintshop (there are others I haven't > > tried). It's common for such programs to come bundled with digital > > cameras, scanners and Multi Function Devices (MFDs combo > > scanner/printer/fax machine). > > > > |
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I think that Paint prints with ABOUT 96 dpi. How to know the exact
resolution which Paint uses for printing? "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????: news:ejDClvg5FHA.2036@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > If the "print size" is the issue, go into Page Setup and set the scale. > if it prints at 96 and the original was 300 dpi 300/96*100=312% > > Dmitry Kopnichev wrote: > > > The problem is - Even if Paint reads an original scan resolutions, it still > > prints it as an image with 96 dpi resolution, not the original scan > > resolutions, with different than the original size. > > "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????: > > news:%23Br4JnU5FHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > > > >>All tiff file formats are NOT the same. MS Paint will read SOME original > >>scan resolutions and not others. If you give it a format that it DOESN'T > >>read the "dpi" of, it DEFAULTS to 91 dpi. Simple as that. You CAN'T > >>change MS Paint, so YOU must use a tif format that the "dpi" is read. > >> > >>Dmitry Kopnichev wrote: > >> > >>>MS Photoeditor, Adobe Photoshop and others divide dimensions in pixels > > > > not > > > >>>by an arbitrary number, but by the original scan resolution in dpi. How > > > > to > > > >>>make Paint read the original scan resolution in dpi from a tif file? > >>>"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: > >>>news:OPFZMlT5FHA.3636@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > >>> > >>> > >>>>The software you have does not see the image file in centimeter or > > > > inches. > > > >>>>It calculates it for you. It makes this calculation by simply taking the > >>>>dimensions of the image in pixels and divides this by an arbitrary > > > > number > > > >>>>such as 72 or 96 to yield and image size in inches. > >>>>Look at the pixel dimensions of your image and divide by 72 or 96 and > > > > you > > > >>>>will get the same answer. > >>>>But this is not good for printing. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > >>>>news:%23yk8MWP5FHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl.. . > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>MS Photoeditor (which is Part of MS Office), Adobe Photoshop and others > >>>> > >>>>see > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>tif image size in centimeters or inches. > >>>>>"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: > >>>>>news:ewi1elH5FHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>No printing software "sees" centimeters or inches. The dimensions of > >>> > >>>an > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>image is in pixels only and this is the only thing the printing > >>> > >>>software > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>sees about your image. No inches or centimeters (see my answer to your > >>>>>>message of 5:44AM). > >>>>>> > >>>>>>When you print, you must select a size in inches or centimeters. The > >>>>>>software takes the dimensions of your image in pixels and prints the > >>>> > >>>>size > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>you select. > >>>>>>For a very good print, take the dimensions of your image in pixels and > >>>>>>divide by 300 to get an idea of how large a print you can make, if you > >>>>> > >>>>>want > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>a smaller print than the answer below there is no problem. > >>>>>>So if the dimensions of your image are 5000 x 4000 pixels, you can > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>at > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>16.6 x 13.3 inches. You can reduce 300 down to 200 and still get a > >>>> > >>>>decent > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>print of a larger size. Below 200 the quality of the print will > >>>>> > >>>>>deteriorate > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>pretty quickly. > >>>>>>Faststone will give you the options such as "fit to page" or > >>> > >>>"specified > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>size". It will give you a "preview" of how the image will be printed > >>> > >>>on > >>> > >>> > >>>>>the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>page by your printer. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>However, there is another problem that you must solve before you > >>> > >>>print. > >>> > >>> > >>>>>You > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>must fit the aspect ratio of your image to the aspect ratio of the > >>> > >>>paper > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>size you select. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>The aspect ratio is simply dividing the width by the height of the > >>> > >>>pixel > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>dimensions. > >>>>>>In the example above it would be 5000/4000= 1.25. > >>>>>>So if you print on 10 x 8 in. paper size, 10/8= 1.25 and the image > >>> > >>>will > >>> > >>> > >>>>>fit > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>perfectly. > >>>>>>If you print on 6 x 4 in. paper size, 6/4= 1.5. The image will not fit > >>>> > >>>>and > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>Faststone will show you (in the print preview window) how the image > >>> > >>>will > >>> > >>> > >>>>>be > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>automatically cropped to fit the size you selected. If this is not to > >>>> > >>>>your > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>liking. after you open the image with Faststone, use the crop tool. > >>> > >>>Crop > >>> > >>> > >>>>>the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>image to the paper size you want to use, placing the crop where you > >>> > >>>want > >>> > >>> > >>>>>it, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>then print using the paper size you cropped the image with. Faststone > >>>> > >>>>will > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>also let you save the cropped image, with no alteration to your > >>> > >>>original > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>file. Go with this option since you may want to print at a different > >>>> > >>>>size > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>in > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>the future and you will want to crop the original image. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:enBxiJF5FHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl.. . > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Yves. > >>>>>>>Do the free software from www.faststone.org treat pixel dimensions > >>> > >>>and > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>resolution as the same things too? Do they require to "Select the > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>size" too? Do not they see original image size in centimeters or > >>>> > >>>>inches > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>too? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>"yves alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях > >>> > >>>следующее: > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>news:OSltkyE5FHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl. .. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Pixel dimensions and resolution are the same thing! > >>>>>>>>Paint does not print anything 6+ times larger. Impossible. > >>>>>>>>What you see from Paint is the size that your image would occupy > >>> > >>>on > >>> > >>> > >>>>>your > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>screen, at 96 dpi, with the number of pixels contained in your > >>> > >>>image > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>file. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Nothing more and nothing less. Paint does not print anything. It > >>>>> > >>>>>simply > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>tranfers the file to your printer. Select the print size. > >>>>>>>>Get some free software from here to edit and print your images: > >>>>>>>>www.faststone.org > >>>>>>>>and forget about Paint. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>news:%23GhOoxC5FHA.4036@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.g bl... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>I did not write about pixel dimensions, I wrote about resolution. > >>>> > >>>>The > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>Paint > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>changes resolution and length dimensions of a scanned image, not > >>>>> > >>>>>pixel > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>dimensions, therefore, Paint prints a 600 dpi image 6+ times > >>>> > >>>>larger. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях > >>>>> > >>>>>следующее: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>news:uM5fnM84FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gb l... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>I don't think anything is wrong. > >>>>>>>>>>The 96 dpi displayed by Paint is simply your monitor display. > >>>>>>>>>>Open the Properties of the file and check the pixel dimensions > >>> > >>>of > >>> > >>> > >>>>>it. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>It > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>should have the same pixel dimensions as the original file, > >>> > >>>say, > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>something > >>>>>>>>>>like: > >>>>>>>>>>1200 x 800. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>news:eshXZf54FHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.g bl... > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>Hello > >>>>>>>>>>>How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files > >>> > >>>from > >>> > >>> > >>>>>600 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>to > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>96 > >>>>>>>>>>>dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving > >>>> > >>>>them > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>the > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>files > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>become 96 dpi. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > |
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The XP print wizard does not print with an original scan size or resolution.
It just fits an image or images to a page. "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: news:O7bFkUj5FHA.444@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > I all you want is the MS Paint editing capabilities, then edit with MS Paint > and save the edited file. > Then open the folder where you saved the file, click on it to select it > (highlight file name in blue) and look at the menu on the left and click on > Print this file. The XP print wizard will open, follow directions including > the printer set up preferences, click on print and you are done. > "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > news:u9Qwpsc5FHA.2036@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > > What is an intuitively understandable program with MS Paint capabilities, > > which prints with an original scan resolution? > > "RobertVA" <robert_c72AThotmail@invalid.com> ???????/???????? ? ???????? > > ?????????: news:emQWkYZ5FHA.1000@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > > Dmitry Kopnichev wrote: > > > > Hello > > > > How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files from 600 to > 96 > > > > dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving them the > > files > > > > become 96 dpi. > > > > > > Paint doesn't do DPI or image dimensions in real world dimensions like > > > inces or milimeters. It was written when printers would only do 300 DPI > > > and had to use a cluster of several of those dots to print very many > > > different colors. Thus it prints at some really low resolution like 75 > > DPI. > > > > > > Paint is really a VERY PRIMATIVE demonstration application that comes > > > with Windows. Don't expect too much from it. If you want better > > > capabilities look for a bitmap editing application like Microsoft Photo > > > Editor, Corel Photopaint or JASC Paintshop (there are others I haven't > > > tried). It's common for such programs to come bundled with digital > > > cameras, scanners and Multi Function Devices (MFDs combo > > > scanner/printer/fax machine). > > > > > > > > > |
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Well, it stands to reason that this number comes from somewhere! Most likely
the DPI of the screen, which on most screens is 96. Paul "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message news:uFUm$mo5FHA.4076@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >I think that Paint prints with ABOUT 96 dpi. How to know the exact > resolution which Paint uses for printing? > "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????: > news:ejDClvg5FHA.2036@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >> If the "print size" is the issue, go into Page Setup and set the scale. >> if it prints at 96 and the original was 300 dpi 300/96*100=312% >> >> Dmitry Kopnichev wrote: >> >> > The problem is - Even if Paint reads an original scan resolutions, it > still >> > prints it as an image with 96 dpi resolution, not the original scan >> > resolutions, with different than the original size. >> > "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????: >> > news:%23Br4JnU5FHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >> > >> >>All tiff file formats are NOT the same. MS Paint will read SOME >> >>original >> >>scan resolutions and not others. If you give it a format that it >> >>DOESN'T >> >>read the "dpi" of, it DEFAULTS to 91 dpi. Simple as that. You CAN'T >> >>change MS Paint, so YOU must use a tif format that the "dpi" is read. >> >> >> >>Dmitry Kopnichev wrote: >> >> >> >>>MS Photoeditor, Adobe Photoshop and others divide dimensions in pixels >> > >> > not >> > >> >>>by an arbitrary number, but by the original scan resolution in dpi. >> >>>How >> > >> > to >> > >> >>>make Paint read the original scan resolution in dpi from a tif file? >> >>>"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: >> >>>news:OPFZMlT5FHA.3636@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>The software you have does not see the image file in centimeter or >> > >> > inches. >> > >> >>>>It calculates it for you. It makes this calculation by simply taking > the >> >>>>dimensions of the image in pixels and divides this by an arbitrary >> > >> > number >> > >> >>>>such as 72 or 96 to yield and image size in inches. >> >>>>Look at the pixel dimensions of your image and divide by 72 or 96 and >> > >> > you >> > >> >>>>will get the same answer. >> >>>>But this is not good for printing. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message >> >>>>news:%23yk8MWP5FHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl.. . >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>MS Photoeditor (which is Part of MS Office), Adobe Photoshop and > others >> >>>> >> >>>>see >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>tif image size in centimeters or inches. >> >>>>>"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях >> >>>>>следующее: >> >>>>>news:ewi1elH5FHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>No printing software "sees" centimeters or inches. The dimensions >> >>>>>>of >> >>> >> >>>an >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>>image is in pixels only and this is the only thing the printing >> >>> >> >>>software >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>>sees about your image. No inches or centimeters (see my answer to > your >> >>>>>>message of 5:44AM). >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>When you print, you must select a size in inches or centimeters. >> >>>>>>The >> >>>>>>software takes the dimensions of your image in pixels and prints >> >>>>>>the >> >>>> >> >>>>size >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>you select. >> >>>>>>For a very good print, take the dimensions of your image in pixels > and >> >>>>>>divide by 300 to get an idea of how large a print you can make, if > you >> >>>>> >> >>>>>want >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>a smaller print than the answer below there is no problem. >> >>>>>>So if the dimensions of your image are 5000 x 4000 pixels, you can >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>at >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>16.6 x 13.3 inches. You can reduce 300 down to 200 and still get a >> >>>> >> >>>>decent >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>print of a larger size. Below 200 the quality of the print will >> >>>>> >> >>>>>deteriorate >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>pretty quickly. >> >>>>>>Faststone will give you the options such as "fit to page" or >> >>> >> >>>"specified >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>>size". It will give you a "preview" of how the image will be >> >>>>>>printed >> >>> >> >>>on >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>the >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>page by your printer. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>However, there is another problem that you must solve before you >> >>> >> >>>print. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>You >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>must fit the aspect ratio of your image to the aspect ratio of the >> >>> >> >>>paper >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>>size you select. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>The aspect ratio is simply dividing the width by the height of the >> >>> >> >>>pixel >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>>dimensions. >> >>>>>>In the example above it would be 5000/4000= 1.25. >> >>>>>>So if you print on 10 x 8 in. paper size, 10/8= 1.25 and the image >> >>> >> >>>will >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>fit >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>perfectly. >> >>>>>>If you print on 6 x 4 in. paper size, 6/4= 1.5. The image will not > fit >> >>>> >> >>>>and >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>Faststone will show you (in the print preview window) how the image >> >>> >> >>>will >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>be >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>automatically cropped to fit the size you selected. If this is not > to >> >>>> >> >>>>your >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>liking. after you open the image with Faststone, use the crop tool. >> >>> >> >>>Crop >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>the >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>image to the paper size you want to use, placing the crop where you >> >>> >> >>>want >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>it, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>then print using the paper size you cropped the image with. > Faststone >> >>>> >> >>>>will >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>also let you save the cropped image, with no alteration to your >> >>> >> >>>original >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>>file. Go with this option since you may want to print at a >> >>>>>>different >> >>>> >> >>>>size >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>in >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>the future and you will want to crop the original image. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message >> >>>>>>news:enBxiJF5FHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl.. . >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>Yves. >> >>>>>>>Do the free software from www.faststone.org treat pixel dimensions >> >>> >> >>>and >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>>>resolution as the same things too? Do they require to "Select the >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>>size" too? Do not they see original image size in centimeters or >> >>>> >> >>>>inches >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>too? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>"yves alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях >> >>> >> >>>следующее: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>>>news:OSltkyE5FHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl. .. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>Pixel dimensions and resolution are the same thing! >> >>>>>>>>Paint does not print anything 6+ times larger. Impossible. >> >>>>>>>>What you see from Paint is the size that your image would occupy >> >>> >> >>>on >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>your >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>screen, at 96 dpi, with the number of pixels contained in your >> >>> >> >>>image >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>>file. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>Nothing more and nothing less. Paint does not print anything. It >> >>>>> >> >>>>>simply >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>tranfers the file to your printer. Select the print size. >> >>>>>>>>Get some free software from here to edit and print your images: >> >>>>>>>>www.faststone.org >> >>>>>>>>and forget about Paint. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message >> >>>>>>>>news:%23GhOoxC5FHA.4036@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.g bl... >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>I did not write about pixel dimensions, I wrote about >> >>>>>>>>>resolution. >> >>>> >> >>>>The >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>>Paint >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>changes resolution and length dimensions of a scanned image, not >> >>>>> >> >>>>>pixel >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>dimensions, therefore, Paint prints a 600 dpi image 6+ times >> >>>> >> >>>>larger. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>>>>"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях >> >>>>> >> >>>>>следующее: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>news:uM5fnM84FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gb l... >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>I don't think anything is wrong. >> >>>>>>>>>>The 96 dpi displayed by Paint is simply your monitor display. >> >>>>>>>>>>Open the Properties of the file and check the pixel dimensions >> >>> >> >>>of >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>it. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>It >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>should have the same pixel dimensions as the original file, >> >>> >> >>>say, >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>something >> >>>>>>>>>>like: >> >>>>>>>>>>1200 x 800. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message >> >>>>>>>>>>news:eshXZf54FHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.g bl... >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>Hello >> >>>>>>>>>>>How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files >> >>> >> >>>from >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>>600 >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>to >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>96 >> >>>>>>>>>>>dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving >> >>>> >> >>>>them >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>the >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>files >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>become 96 dpi. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >> > >> > >> > > |
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You may want to read this about scanning and then printing a specific size.
http://www.scantips.com/ I still think the fastest way to accomplish what you want is to edit with Paint, save the file and then open it with www.faststone.org then click on File and Print. A window will open, for size, select "Specified size" and enter it. If the original photo was say 15 x 10 centimeters, enter this. Then enter your printer preferences and select the highest resolution. Click Print. As long as the paper size in your printer is the same or larger than the Specified size, you will get the print at the size you want. "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message news:OnuN4po5FHA.2484@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > The XP print wizard does not print with an original scan size or resolution. > It just fits an image or images to a page. > "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее: > news:O7bFkUj5FHA.444@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > > I all you want is the MS Paint editing capabilities, then edit with MS > Paint > > and save the edited file. > > Then open the folder where you saved the file, click on it to select it > > (highlight file name in blue) and look at the menu on the left and click > on > > Print this file. The XP print wizard will open, follow directions > including > > the printer set up preferences, click on print and you are done. > > "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message > > news:u9Qwpsc5FHA.2036@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > > > What is an intuitively understandable program with MS Paint > capabilities, > > > which prints with an original scan resolution? > > > "RobertVA" <robert_c72AThotmail@invalid.com> ???????/???????? ? ???????? > > > ?????????: news:emQWkYZ5FHA.1000@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > > > Dmitry Kopnichev wrote: > > > > > Hello > > > > > How to stop MS Paint changing resolution of b&w tif files from 600 > to > > 96 > > > > > dpi? After editing the 600 dpi files in MS Paint and saving them the > > > files > > > > > become 96 dpi. > > > > > > > > Paint doesn't do DPI or image dimensions in real world dimensions like > > > > inces or milimeters. It was written when printers would only do 300 > DPI > > > > and had to use a cluster of several of those dots to print very many > > > > different colors. Thus it prints at some really low resolution like 75 > > > DPI. > > > > > > > > Paint is really a VERY PRIMATIVE demonstration application that comes > > > > with Windows. Don't expect too much from it. If you want better > > > > capabilities look for a bitmap editing application like Microsoft > Photo > > > > Editor, Corel Photopaint or JASC Paintshop (there are others I haven't > > > > tried). It's common for such programs to come bundled with digital > > > > cameras, scanners and Multi Function Devices (MFDs combo > > > > scanner/printer/fax machine). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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Dmitry, you definitely should not be using a primitive application like MS
Paint for photo editing/printing. Buy a proper photo-editing program and you will soon learn the relationship between pixels and image dimensions. A good photo-editing program allows you to specify EXACTLY what size you want the image to be and at the same time it tells you how many pixels-per-inch the image will have at that size. It also allows you to to 'crop' to get rid of any unwanted objects at the outer edges of the image. you can also 'save' the image in any format you like. MS Paint does not not allow you to do any of that because it's too simple for photo work. I'm amazed you are using it for scanning/printing photographs. No wonder you can't get the photo to print the size you want! use something better! |