CWatters wrote:

>"Susan Sharm" <susanshaarm@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1131861989.689133.299360@f14g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
>
>
>>What is the procedure for home repair of Hewlett Packard #14 print
>>heads?
>>
>>My CYAN stopped printing (even though the refilled
>>
GOOD

>>cartridge is full)
>>and a diagnostic report from the HP OfficeJet D145 all in one printer
>>says the CYAN print head needs to be replaced.
>>
>>
TERRIFIC

>>Since the print head has to be replaced, I may as well attempt a home
>>repair.
>>
VUE DEN

>>But how?
>>
>>A friend suggested I remove the bad cyan printhead drip a solvent such
>>as alcohol or acetone or hydrogen peroxide on the top steel grid until
>>it runs clear - which might unblock the screen in case it's blocked by
>>teeny tiny honey-I-shrunk-the-kids debris.
>>
>>He said then to gently swipe the bottom of the print head with the
>>solvent so as to free up goldish metallic strips on the bottom.
>>
>>Is there a published procedure for home cleaning & repair
>>
ASK HP

>>of print
>>heads as a last ditch effort before replacing them altogether?
>>
>>
>
>This cart has the head built in right?
>
>I found the heads in the HP carts would fail after several refills
>
THAT IS GREAT NEWS

>for no
>obvious reason. They wern't blocked (you could see the ink when blotted) and
>there wasn't an air lock (usually cured by twirling it around in a plastic
>bag) they just wouldn't print. No solution - just suck the ink out and put
>it into another cart.
>
>
HEY REGULARS -- DA MESSAGE ALWAYS GETS THROUGH

>
>
>
>
>

Susan

Regardless of what others say, use re-fillable cartridges is NOT a good
idea.. it is undeniably cheaper, but is not reliable, working for some but
not all.. if you want your printer to be usable at all times, buy HP
manufactured non-refillable cartridges..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"Susan Sharm" <susanshaarm@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1131861989.689133.299360@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> What is the procedure for home repair of Hewlett Packard #14 print
> heads?
>
> My CYAN stopped printing (even though the refilled cartridge is full)
> and a diagnostic report from the HP OfficeJet D145 all in one printer
> says the CYAN print head needs to be replaced.
>
> Since the print head has to be replaced, I may as well attempt a home
> repair. But how?
>
> A friend suggested I remove the bad cyan printhead drip a solvent such
> as alcohol or acetone or hydrogen peroxide on the top steel grid until
> it runs clear - which might unblock the screen in case it's blocked by
> teeny tiny honey-I-shrunk-the-kids debris.
>
> He said then to gently swipe the bottom of the print head with the
> solvent so as to free up goldish metallic strips on the bottom.
>
> Is there a published procedure for home cleaning & repair of print
> heads as a last ditch effort before replacing them altogether?
>
> Susan
>

> Regardless of what others say, use re-fillable cartridges is NOT a good
> idea.. it is undeniably cheaper, but is not reliable, working for some but
> not all.. if you want your printer to be usable at all times, buy HP
> manufactured non-refillable cartridges.

Most people I know who refill their HPs buy OEM cartridges and fit them
for refilling after they are empty... and keep a spair set of
cartridges when the printhead finally dies. To be honest I never got
into refilling HP tanks... though I did buy refilled ones and they
worked pretty well. I'm sure there is a higher failure rate among
refills but this risk is in the sub 1% range and can be minimized by
buying more than one set at a time. Those fill as you wait places that
take the time to test the cartridges also help to keep the risk down.

But you are right, one needs to set their priorites
1. Downtime - OEM or serviced refilling
2. economics - refill or prefills
3. ecocology - refill, prefills, serviced refilling

But I disagree with it being "NOT a good idea" It's a fine idea. There
are those of use who value the economics of printing or doing our
*small* part to actually reduce waste. After all we share a planet,
and every dollar we spend is a vote tward what our posterity will
inherit... blue skies or magenta rivers.

Susan Sharm wrote:

>This sounds like an interesting idea. Am I guessing correctly that the
>main evil is that the printhead is "clogged" internally and the boiling
>water dissolves the clog?

Yes. I buy used plotters that usually have been sitting in storage for a
few years unused. I use this technique all the time to recondition the
printheads for testing and reconditioning before resale. The boiling hot
water dissolves the crap in the head and brings it back to new condition.

>What is inside the printhead? I found a description of the printhead at

I don't know since I never had one apart.

>http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en...637-34076.html
>But the HP article didn't describe how a printhead works. If I knew how
>it works (and what is inside that little tank) then I could better
>figure out how to repair it.

It's really not of any benefit to even worry about it.

>Once we pull the printhead out of the boiling water, should I soak it
>with ink from the top screen or leave it filled with the hot water
>before putting the printhead back into the HP d145 officejet? Or do we
>empty it out and put the printhead back into the all-in-one
>printer/fax/scanner filled with air?

After removal from the hot water just place it on some paper towels several
layers thick to wick out as much water as possible. The drier the better.
Once dry, just reinstall the printhead in the printer/plotter and let the
device do the rest. It will be just like new.





Rita

Noble sentiments, except that most who refill have ruined at least one item
of clothing, used solvents of dubious ecological integrity in an attempt to
remove ink stains off of clothing and hands, used solvents of dubious
ecological integrity in an attempt to clean an intransigent print head, used
more than one sheet of paper while trying to get a test page that shows all
is well..

Add to the above frustration at not being able to get the printer to produce
anything meaningful, and maybe it is not such a good idea..

In the meantime, some industrial companies are still contravening every
ecological law, garbage and sewage is still being dumped into the oceans and
landfill sites while nobody is looking, and the absolute worst is members of
the general public dumping medications into their domestic effluent removal
systems which then infect the entire water system, not only for re-use by
us, but in a way that apparently renders sea life impotent.. way to go..

While I accept that every little step taken is a good one, all is not always
as it seems, and in many cases, one step forward is followed by a couple of
backwards steps..


--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1131909038.955102.323370@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Regardless of what others say, use re-fillable cartridges is NOT a good
>> idea.. it is undeniably cheaper, but is not reliable, working for some
>> but
>> not all.. if you want your printer to be usable at all times, buy HP
>> manufactured non-refillable cartridges.
>
> Most people I know who refill their HPs buy OEM cartridges and fit them
> for refilling after they are empty... and keep a spair set of
> cartridges when the printhead finally dies. To be honest I never got
> into refilling HP tanks... though I did buy refilled ones and they
> worked pretty well. I'm sure there is a higher failure rate among
> refills but this risk is in the sub 1% range and can be minimized by
> buying more than one set at a time. Those fill as you wait places that
> take the time to test the cartridges also help to keep the risk down.
>
> But you are right, one needs to set their priorites
> 1. Downtime - OEM or serviced refilling
> 2. economics - refill or prefills
> 3. ecocology - refill, prefills, serviced refilling
>
> But I disagree with it being "NOT a good idea" It's a fine idea. There
> are those of use who value the economics of printing or doing our
> *small* part to actually reduce waste. After all we share a planet,
> and every dollar we spend is a vote tward what our posterity will
> inherit... blue skies or magenta rivers.
>

Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:

>Noble sentiments, except that most who refill have ruined at least one item
>of clothing, used solvents of dubious ecological integrity in an attempt to
>remove ink stains off of clothing and hands, used solvents of dubious
>ecological integrity in an attempt to clean an intransigent print head, used
>more than one sheet of paper while trying to get a test page that shows all
>is well..
>
>
WOW! HEAR THAT CHURCHIES! A NEW GOSPEL. KEEP GOING

>Add to the above frustration at not being able to get the printer to produce
>anything meaningful, and maybe it is not such a good idea..
>
>
RIGHT ON

>In the meantime, some industrial companies are still contravening every
>ecological law, garbage and sewage is still being dumped into the oceans and
>landfill sites while nobody is looking, and the absolute worst is members of
>the general public dumping medications into their domestic effluent removal
>systems which then infect the entire water system, not only for re-use by
>us, but in a way that apparently renders sea life impotent.. way to go..
>
>While I accept that every little step taken is a good one, all is not always
>as it seems, and in many cases, one step forward is followed by a couple of
>backwards steps..
>
>
>
>

zakezuke wrote:

>>Regardless of what others say, use re-fillable cartridges is NOT a good
>>idea.. it is undeniably cheaper, but is not reliable, working for some but
>>not all.. if you want your printer to be usable at all times, buy HP
>>manufactured non-refillable cartridges.
>>
>>
>
>Most people I know who refill their HPs buy OEM cartridges and fit them
>for refilling after they are empty...
>
NOT TOO BRIGHT

> and keep a spair set of
>cartridges when the printhead finally dies. To be honest I never got
>into refilling HP tanks...
>
SO DO NOT CHIME IN

>though I did buy refilled ones and they
>worked pretty well. I'm sure there is a higher failure rate among
>refills
>
YEP

>but this risk is in the sub 1% range and can be minimized by
>buying more than one set at a time. Those fill as you wait places that
>take the time to test the cartridges also help to keep the risk down.
>
>But you are right, one needs to set their priorites
> 1. Downtime - OEM or serviced refilling
> 2. economics - refill or prefills
> 3. ecocology - refill, prefills, serviced refilling
>
>But I disagree with it being "NOT a good idea"
>
NOT ME

>It's a fine idea. There
>are those of use who value the economics of printing or doing our
>*small* part to actually reduce waste. After all we share a planet,
>and every dollar we spend is a vote tward what our posterity will
>inherit... blue skies or magenta rivers.
>
>
>

ABSOLUTELY

Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:

>Susan
>
>Regardless of what others say, use re-fillable cartridges is NOT a good
>idea.. it is undeniably cheaper, but is not reliable, working for some but
>not all.. if you want your printer to be usable at all times, buy HP
>manufactured non-refillable cartridges..
>
>
>

Susan,

You have me confused...at least when I worked at HP, the print heads were
in the ink cartridge (i.e., everytime you replaced the cartridge...with a
NEW
HP cartridge, not a refilled cartridge, you got new print heads). If you've
been
refilling, well...once in awhile, you need to buy a NEW HP cartridge as the
print heads in a cartridge aren't designed to print THAT many pages.

George

"Susan Sharm" <susanshaarm@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1131861989.689133.299360@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> What is the procedure for home repair of Hewlett Packard #14 print
> heads?
>
> My CYAN stopped printing (even though the refilled cartridge is full)
> and a diagnostic report from the HP OfficeJet D145 all in one printer
> says the CYAN print head needs to be replaced.
>
> Since the print head has to be replaced, I may as well attempt a home
> repair. But how?
>
> A friend suggested I remove the bad cyan printhead drip a solvent such
> as alcohol or acetone or hydrogen peroxide on the top steel grid until
> it runs clear - which might unblock the screen in case it's blocked by
> teeny tiny honey-I-shrunk-the-kids debris.
>
> He said then to gently swipe the bottom of the print head with the
> solvent so as to free up goldish metallic strips on the bottom.
>
> Is there a published procedure for home cleaning & repair of print
> heads as a last ditch effort before replacing them altogether?
>
> Susan
>

george wrote:

>Susan,
>
>You have me confused...at least when I worked at HP, the print heads were
>in the ink cartridge (i.e., everytime you replaced the cartridge...with a
>NEW
>HP cartridge, not a refilled cartridge, you got new print heads). If you've
>been
>refilling, well...once in awhile, you need to buy a NEW HP cartridge as the
>print heads in a cartridge aren't designed to print THAT many pages.
>
>George
>
>
TINKER TOYS BY TONKA

>"Susan Sharm" <susanshaarm@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1131861989.689133.299360@f14g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
>
>
>>What is the procedure for home repair of Hewlett Packard #14 print
>>heads?
>>
>>My CYAN stopped printing (even though the refilled cartridge is full)
>>and a diagnostic report from the HP OfficeJet D145 all in one printer
>>says the CYAN print head needs to be replaced.
>>
>>Since the print head has to be replaced, I may as well attempt a home
>>repair. But how?
>>
>>A friend suggested I remove the bad cyan printhead drip a solvent such
>>as alcohol or acetone or hydrogen peroxide on the top steel grid until
>>it runs clear - which might unblock the screen in case it's blocked by
>>teeny tiny honey-I-shrunk-the-kids debris.
>>
>>He said then to gently swipe the bottom of the print head with the
>>solvent so as to free up goldish metallic strips on the bottom.
>>
>>Is there a published procedure for home cleaning & repair of print
>>heads as a last ditch effort before replacing them altogether?
>>
>>Susan
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>