In article <aumef.513652$tl2.241075@pd7tw3no>, e-printerhelp@mvps.org
says...
> The Xerox "solid Color" Phase printers offer an interesting alternative
> to other color image printers, but there are some limitations as well as
> good points to them.
>
> Good stuff:
>
> They are very fast
>
> Cost per copy is lower than other options
>
> Little environmental waste (packaging, cartridge, etc.)
>
> Not so good stuff:
>
> Need to be left on all the time or a lot of the solid ink is wasted, but
> goes into fairly deep "sleep" modes.

I always put mine in deep sleep (button on the front) so that it doesn't
waste any ink keeping it warm - it's also set to deep sleep after 60
minutes.

> Large footprint and can be noisy.

No larger than any other printer in it's class - smaller than a HP
Laserjet 4.

> Image quality is ot quite photographic, bright overly contrast images
> are normal

Not true. You have a slider for the image quality and three different
print modes also.

> Image has slight texture, a waxy feel and doesn't laminate well.

Yes, it's wax on paper, not like Ink/Toner.

> Surface of image may crack is bent or scratch.

Never seen that happen yet. We also print a 70% Wax Coverage group
newsletter for our 4H kids, we do duplex, 8 pages (16 sides), and print
20 of these every month. The ones I've seen after the meetings are not
broken/cracked after being handled for an hour by the kids.

> Limited sources for the solid ink.

Yep, you can't walk into the Mom/Pop computer places, not in Radio
Shack, not in WalMart and get Wax. I order mine online.

The Wax thermal I have is the Phaser 8400B.

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measekite <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:
>Bob Headrick wrote:
>
>>"Arthur Entlich" <e-printerhelp@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>news:KQZdf.505812$tl2.128578@pd7tw3no...
>>
>>
>>>Since HP may well be the most environmentally evolved of all the inkjet
>>>companies, I don't want to point fingers at them, so I will instead keep my
>>>comments more generic about inkjet cartridges, although I believe they were
>>>the "inventors" of the "starter cartridge" which contained 50% or less ink
>>>in
>>>the cartridges that first came with the printer.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I believe starter cartridges were introduced first by Lexmark.
>>
>> - Bob Headrick
>>
>>
>COMPANIES THAT SELL THEIR PRINTERS WITH STARTER CARTS ARE BIG WHORES.

You mean like Canon?
Tony

SO DOES EVERYBODY

Arthur Entlich wrote:

> You may well be correct. I tend to forget about Lexmark...
>
> Art
>
> Bob Headrick wrote:
>
>> "Arthur Entlich" <e-printerhelp@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:KQZdf.505812$tl2.128578@pd7tw3no...
>>
>>> Since HP may well be the most environmentally evolved of all the
>>> inkjet companies, I don't want to point fingers at them, so I will
>>> instead keep my comments more generic about inkjet cartridges,
>>> although I believe they were the "inventors" of the "starter
>>> cartridge" which contained 50% or less ink in the cartridges that
>>> first came with the printer.
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe starter cartridges were introduced first by Lexmark.
>>
>> - Bob Headrick
>>
>>

TRY IT YALL LIKE IT

Zoroaster (formerly Zorro) wrote:

>In article <Tjhef.13498$7h7.7555@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
>inkystinky@oem.com says...
>
>
>>COMPANIES THAT SELL THEIR PRINTERS WITH STARTER CARTS ARE BIG WHORES.
>>
>>
>>
>inkystinky (Measekite) admits to limited experience with printers, but
>he seems very big on whores (perhaps his area of expertise)?
>
>

Tony wrote:

>measekite <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Bob Headrick wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>"Arthur Entlich" <e-printerhelp@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>news:KQZdf.505812$tl2.128578@pd7tw3no...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Since HP may well be the most environmentally evolved of all the inkjet
>>>>companies, I don't want to point fingers at them, so I will instead keep my
>>>>comments more generic about inkjet cartridges, although I believe they were
>>>>the "inventors" of the "starter cartridge" which contained 50% or less ink
>>>>in
>>>>the cartridges that first came with the printer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I believe starter cartridges were introduced first by Lexmark.
>>>
>>> - Bob Headrick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>COMPANIES THAT SELL THEIR PRINTERS WITH STARTER CARTS ARE BIG WHORES.
>>
>>
>
>You mean like Canon?
>Tony
>
>
I BOUGHT MY CANON WITH FULL CARTS.

Tony <TonytheTigurrrrr@aim.com> wrote in
newsart1of1.1.T1zhNP#FMz0pvw@ue.ph:

>>COMPANIES THAT SELL THEIR PRINTERS WITH STARTER CARTS ARE BIG WHORES.
>
> You mean like Canon?
> Tony
>

I don't think my ip5000 came with starter carts.

Gary Tait wrote:

>Tony <TonytheTigurrrrr@aim.com> wrote in
>newsart1of1.1.T1zhNP#FMz0pvw@ue.ph:
>
>
>
>>>COMPANIES THAT SELL THEIR PRINTERS WITH STARTER CARTS ARE BIG WHORES.
>>>
>>>
>>You mean like Canon?
>>Tony
>>
>>
>>
>
>I don't think my ip5000 came with starter carts.
>
>

OH YEAR IN DA BUSINESS AND KNOWS NOTHING LIKE MOST OF DA KNOW IT ALLS

Gary Tait <classicsat@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Tony <TonytheTigurrrrr@aim.com> wrote in
>newsart1of1.1.T1zhNP#FMz0pvw@ue.ph:
>
>>>COMPANIES THAT SELL THEIR PRINTERS WITH STARTER CARTS ARE BIG WHORES.
>>
>> You mean like Canon?
>> Tony
>>
>
>I don't think my ip5000 came with starter carts.

I'm sure you are correct, so far as I know Canon does not use starter
cartridges in inkjets but they sure do in some Lasers, which by Measekite's
definition makes them a big whore.
Tony

measekite <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:
>Gary Tait wrote:
>
>>Tony <TonytheTigurrrrr@aim.com> wrote in
>>newsart1of1.1.T1zhNP#FMz0pvw@ue.ph:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>COMPANIES THAT SELL THEIR PRINTERS WITH STARTER CARTS ARE BIG WHORES.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>You mean like Canon?
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I don't think my ip5000 came with starter carts.
>>
>>
>
>OH YEAR IN DA BUSINESS AND KNOWS NOTHING LIKE MOST OF DA KNOW IT ALLS

Once more you are wrong.
Canon supplies starter cartridges for some of their Lasers. So by your
definition they are a big whore.
Check it out, easy to do.
Tony

Tony wrote:

>measekite <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Gary Tait wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Tony <TonytheTigurrrrr@aim.com> wrote in
>>>newsart1of1.1.T1zhNP#FMz0pvw@ue.ph:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>COMPANIES THAT SELL THEIR PRINTERS WITH STARTER CARTS ARE BIG WHORES.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>You mean like Canon?
>>>>Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I don't think my ip5000 came with starter carts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>OH YEAR IN DA BUSINESS AND KNOWS NOTHING LIKE MOST OF DA KNOW IT ALLS
>>
>>
>
>Once more you are wrong.
>Canon supplies starter cartridges for some of their Lasers. So by your
>definition they are a big whore.
>Check it out, easy to do.
>Tony
>
>
NOT INTERESTED IN LASER PRINTERS NOW