Another emulation was IBM ProPrinter 24 or something similar..

-
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"Paul Baker" <paulb@online.rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:u2U9pyo9FHA.472@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>I think "Epson compatible" refers to printers that were traditionally dot
>matrix and that supported the Epson ESC/P 2 language for graphics and other
>escape sequences. Like the Epson FX Series and a lot of Okidata printers.
>This used to be the gold standard of printers in the days where fancier
>printers were more expensive and many types of places had these things.
>Airports and travel agents still do.
>
> Paul
>
> "Uncle Joe" <UncleJoe@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23otDFlj9FHA.1440@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Byte,
>>
>> That's good information. I left CompUSA in Mid-2001. Never
>> heard of the "Epson compatible" term. Hmmmm. I'm very glad for
>> HP purchasers that starter cartridges are no longer included in the
>> box. Just don't like HP printers. I print artistic prints on watercolor
>> paper and the HP feed mechanism hangs on such paper.
>>
>> Toured my local CompUSA store tonight and was amazed by all
>> the printers: they must have at least sixty printers. During my time
>> there, Canon never had more than three printers. Now they have
>> a slew of them. Nice but their all-in-one printers are so expensive
>> and big.
>>
>> "Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:480C3079-A93B-4745-A62A-F4A499F00063@microsoft.com...
>>> Uncle Joe, your info is partially correct. It must have been several
>>> years
>>> since you worked for CompUSA. Since HP obtained Compaq, it no longer
>>> manufactures "starter" ink cartridges and now ships will full standard
>>> ones. In the "old" days of printing there was a term used for printers,
>>> that was "Epson compatible", well that term is no longer being used.
>>> The
>>> latest top 10 printers are listed in Novembers issue of PCWorld
>>> magazine,
>>> and they are: Canon Pixma, HP has 6 out of the 10, and Epson is in last
>>> place! Hey, happy putering and printing. :~)
>>> --
>>> XP - WNP
>>> Today is the first day of the
>>> rest of your life.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Uncle Joe" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I have learned several things. Worked as a salesman at a
>>>> local CompUSA store for two years. HP, Canon, and Lexmark
>>>> printers were crap and overpriced. Customers were always
>>>> bringing them back. Canon used tiny cartridges that required
>>>> one to constantly buy new cartridges. I resent the fact that HP
>>>> provides starter cartridges in their boxes, therefore forcing its
>>>> customers to return shortly thereafter to purchase expensive
>>>> standard cartridges. And I don't like the way HP printers feed
>>>> paper in the bottom front, thereby curling the paper as it goes
>>>> through the print cycle. When one factors in the cost of buying
>>>> all new cartridges for HP printers within two months, the
>>>> already high acquisition prices of HP printers increases too
>>>> greatly for my tastes.
>>>>
>>>> I like everything about Epson except the propensity of its printers
>>>> to clog. And I just discovered that fact yesterday. I thought it was
>>>> isolated to my printer at first. Not so. It's a common thing since
>>>> Epson dropped its drop resolution from 5 picoliters to 3 picoliters.
>>>> Had been considering replacing my CX4600 with a CX4800.
>>>>
>>>> Now I'm in a quandary. I don't like the other printer brands, and I
>>>> don't like the prospect of having to dig into the mechanical aspects
>>>> of a printer to unclog its print heads. Overall, I'm going to take my
>>>> chances with unclogging the CX4600's print heads rather than to
>>>> add other printers to my configuration.
>>>>
>>>> From what I've read, the key elements in preventing the clogging
>>>> is to (1) turn off the printer when not in use (I never did this), and
>>>> (2) print a small colorful image every day or two to exercise each
>>>> of the ink cartridges and print heads. We'll see.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:5038DCE7-DAA2-49D4-89FD-3E0129E28718@microsoft.com...
>>>> >I do not understand WHY you consider purchasing another Epson
>>>> > printer, although a different model, after all the problems you have
>>>> > encountered on your present Epson. Haven't you learned anything?
>>>> > Consider a HP or Canon model, many excellent trouble-free models
>>>> > even all-in-one units are under $100. Ignore Epson and especially
>>>> > Lexmark, their current models have been proven to be a pain in
>>>> > where the sun don't shine.
>>>> > --
>>>> > XP - WNP
>>>> > Today is the first day of the
>>>> > rest of your life.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > "Uncle Joe" wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Here's another terrific web page on unclogging Epson printers,
>>>> >> including the C80 and C82. This web site explains much.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://www.maxpatchink.com/epsonclean.shtml
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "Uncle Joe" <UncleJoe@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> >> news:OvIY%235L9FHA.3044@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>> >> > All of you may be interested in reviewing an Epson web site link
>>>> >> > obtained by Google searching for "printing blank pages with
>>>> >> > Epson."
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ges+with+Epson
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Based on the frequency and Epson printer models listed on the
>>>> >> > page,
>>>> >> > that something is seriously wrong with Epson printers or software,
>>>> >> > or both. There's too many printer models experiencing the same
>>>> >> > problem of printing blank pages for it to be a coincidence.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > "BlondeMoment" <BlondeMoment@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>>> >> > message
>>>> >> > news12EE667-D847-465B-BA70-75E299DC305D@microsoft.com...
>>>> >> >> Any document I send to the printer (Epson Stylus C82) is
>>>> >> >> communicated to the
>>>> >> >> printer and it "acts" as though it is printing. But the page
>>>> >> >> comes out blank
>>>> >> >> ... no matter which program it is sent from. I've gone through
>>>> >> >> all the
>>>> >> >> troubleshooting steps and checked the ink cartridges for improper
>>>> >> >> installation and I cannot come up with the right answer. Does
>>>> >> >> anyone have any
>>>> >> >> thoughts or suggestions?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Yes, right...

I am barely old enough to remember this stuff. However, I wrote software
that supports these old-fashioned emulations, so I have to know a little
about it. Mostly, I just took escape sequences out of an old version of the
same software that was written for MS-DOS in the '70s and '80s

Paul

"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mikehalll@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OJfCDzp9FHA.1020@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Another emulation was IBM ProPrinter 24 or something similar..
>
> -
> Mike Hall
> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Paul Baker" <paulb@online.rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:u2U9pyo9FHA.472@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>I think "Epson compatible" refers to printers that were traditionally dot
>>matrix and that supported the Epson ESC/P 2 language for graphics and
>>other escape sequences. Like the Epson FX Series and a lot of Okidata
>>printers. This used to be the gold standard of printers in the days where
>>fancier printers were more expensive and many types of places had these
>>things. Airports and travel agents still do.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> "Uncle Joe" <UncleJoe@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:%23otDFlj9FHA.1440@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> Byte,
>>>
>>> That's good information. I left CompUSA in Mid-2001. Never
>>> heard of the "Epson compatible" term. Hmmmm. I'm very glad for
>>> HP purchasers that starter cartridges are no longer included in the
>>> box. Just don't like HP printers. I print artistic prints on watercolor
>>> paper and the HP feed mechanism hangs on such paper.
>>>
>>> Toured my local CompUSA store tonight and was amazed by all
>>> the printers: they must have at least sixty printers. During my time
>>> there, Canon never had more than three printers. Now they have
>>> a slew of them. Nice but their all-in-one printers are so expensive
>>> and big.
>>>
>>> "Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:480C3079-A93B-4745-A62A-F4A499F00063@microsoft.com...
>>>> Uncle Joe, your info is partially correct. It must have been several
>>>> years
>>>> since you worked for CompUSA. Since HP obtained Compaq, it no longer
>>>> manufactures "starter" ink cartridges and now ships will full standard
>>>> ones. In the "old" days of printing there was a term used for
>>>> printers,
>>>> that was "Epson compatible", well that term is no longer being used.
>>>> The
>>>> latest top 10 printers are listed in Novembers issue of PCWorld
>>>> magazine,
>>>> and they are: Canon Pixma, HP has 6 out of the 10, and Epson is in
>>>> last
>>>> place! Hey, happy putering and printing. :~)
>>>> --
>>>> XP - WNP
>>>> Today is the first day of the
>>>> rest of your life.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Uncle Joe" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I have learned several things. Worked as a salesman at a
>>>>> local CompUSA store for two years. HP, Canon, and Lexmark
>>>>> printers were crap and overpriced. Customers were always
>>>>> bringing them back. Canon used tiny cartridges that required
>>>>> one to constantly buy new cartridges. I resent the fact that HP
>>>>> provides starter cartridges in their boxes, therefore forcing its
>>>>> customers to return shortly thereafter to purchase expensive
>>>>> standard cartridges. And I don't like the way HP printers feed
>>>>> paper in the bottom front, thereby curling the paper as it goes
>>>>> through the print cycle. When one factors in the cost of buying
>>>>> all new cartridges for HP printers within two months, the
>>>>> already high acquisition prices of HP printers increases too
>>>>> greatly for my tastes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like everything about Epson except the propensity of its printers
>>>>> to clog. And I just discovered that fact yesterday. I thought it was
>>>>> isolated to my printer at first. Not so. It's a common thing since
>>>>> Epson dropped its drop resolution from 5 picoliters to 3 picoliters.
>>>>> Had been considering replacing my CX4600 with a CX4800.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I'm in a quandary. I don't like the other printer brands, and I
>>>>> don't like the prospect of having to dig into the mechanical aspects
>>>>> of a printer to unclog its print heads. Overall, I'm going to take my
>>>>> chances with unclogging the CX4600's print heads rather than to
>>>>> add other printers to my configuration.
>>>>>
>>>>> From what I've read, the key elements in preventing the clogging
>>>>> is to (1) turn off the printer when not in use (I never did this), and
>>>>> (2) print a small colorful image every day or two to exercise each
>>>>> of the ink cartridges and print heads. We'll see.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:5038DCE7-DAA2-49D4-89FD-3E0129E28718@microsoft.com...
>>>>> >I do not understand WHY you consider purchasing another Epson
>>>>> > printer, although a different model, after all the problems you have
>>>>> > encountered on your present Epson. Haven't you learned anything?
>>>>> > Consider a HP or Canon model, many excellent trouble-free models
>>>>> > even all-in-one units are under $100. Ignore Epson and especially
>>>>> > Lexmark, their current models have been proven to be a pain in
>>>>> > where the sun don't shine.
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > XP - WNP
>>>>> > Today is the first day of the
>>>>> > rest of your life.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "Uncle Joe" wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Here's another terrific web page on unclogging Epson printers,
>>>>> >> including the C80 and C82. This web site explains much.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> http://www.maxpatchink.com/epsonclean.shtml
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> "Uncle Joe" <UncleJoe@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> >> news:OvIY%235L9FHA.3044@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>>> >> > All of you may be interested in reviewing an Epson web site link
>>>>> >> > obtained by Google searching for "printing blank pages with
>>>>> >> > Epson."
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ges+with+Epson
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Based on the frequency and Epson printer models listed on the
>>>>> >> > page,
>>>>> >> > that something is seriously wrong with Epson printers or
>>>>> >> > software,
>>>>> >> > or both. There's too many printer models experiencing the same
>>>>> >> > problem of printing blank pages for it to be a coincidence.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > "BlondeMoment" <BlondeMoment@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>>>> >> > message
>>>>> >> > news12EE667-D847-465B-BA70-75E299DC305D@microsoft.com...
>>>>> >> >> Any document I send to the printer (Epson Stylus C82) is
>>>>> >> >> communicated to the
>>>>> >> >> printer and it "acts" as though it is printing. But the page
>>>>> >> >> comes out blank
>>>>> >> >> ... no matter which program it is sent from. I've gone through
>>>>> >> >> all the
>>>>> >> >> troubleshooting steps and checked the ink cartridges for
>>>>> >> >> improper
>>>>> >> >> installation and I cannot come up with the right answer. Does
>>>>> >> >> anyone have any
>>>>> >> >> thoughts or suggestions?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Uncle Joe wrote:
> Replaced the four ink cartridges (total cost $75) Sunday, and from
> that point on, the printer only prints blank pages. When I send print
> matter to the printer, it acts as if its printing but no ink appears on
> the pages. Have verified that printer is getting USB1 signals from
> PC (Win XP Home SP2) and that ink cartridges are well-seated.
> They install with a positive, audible click. Even removed and reseated
> all four ink cartridges. No change. Still prints blank pages.

It's been clogged.
First of all, take out all cartridges, shake them like 15 - 20 times
and install them back.
Do the head cleanings twice, give it like 20 mins break, then print the
following page:
http://www.inkrepublic.com/members/nozzle/index.asp

> Epson then suggested I replace my four ink cartridges--the very ones
> I installed yesterday at a cost of $75. (No skin off Epson's back,
> right?) So, I wonder if new cartridges (another $75) will print.
> What if they don't? I'm out another $75 bucks and may still
> be printing blank pages. I'm not prepared to cope with this scenario.

OK, if you cannot remove the clogs, try to buy some cleaning kit or you
can buy a new printer CX4800.

Epson CX4800 and CX4600 are using the different chipset/cartridges,
they are not compatiable.

Epson's chipset is designed to run head cleaning automatically whenever
you turn on printer, this would consume 2-3ml ink, which is almost 15%
of cartridge's capacity.

If you want to get rid of the expensive Epson cartridge, you can try to
use a very decent ink system like:
http://www.inkrepublic.com/ProductDe...sp?item=CX4800
http://www.inkrepublic.com/ProductDe...sp?item=CX4600

Reviews of bulk ink system:
http://www.inkrepublic.com/reviews.asp
http://www.inkrepublic.com/testimonials.asp

This ink system has great chipset which can reduce head cleanings.