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Old 01-05-2006, 05:04 AM
jennifererrn
 
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Default file sharing and the missing securities tab

I understand from reading others posts, that the securities tab does not show
in XP Home, only in the Pro version. This is my trouble.

I bought a new pc, and installed my old hard drive as a 2nd drive. I did
not remove the sharing protection on a folder in my old drive, and now I
cannot access that folder. I cannot change the ownership of the file,
because I do not own Pro.

I do not own my old pc anylonger, so I cannot go back and change it by
putting the drive back in my old pc.

I know there has to be a way to access that folder, but I cannot find any
info on this.

So in short, new pc, new copy of windows, installed old drive as a 2nd
drive, and I cannot access a few "non-shared" folders because I restricted
file sharing while it was in my old pc. I cannot change the ownership of the
folder because I do not own Pro. I do not have a "securities" tab in XP Home.

Help..
Jennifer
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:04 AM
Malke
 
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Default Re: file sharing and the missing securities tab

jennifererrn wrote:

> I understand from reading others posts, that the securities tab does
> not show
> in XP Home, only in the Pro version. This is my trouble.
>
> I bought a new pc, and installed my old hard drive as a 2nd drive. I
> did not remove the sharing protection on a folder in my old drive, and
> now I
> cannot access that folder. I cannot change the ownership of the file,
> because I do not own Pro.
>
> I do not own my old pc anylonger, so I cannot go back and change it by
> putting the drive back in my old pc.
>
> I know there has to be a way to access that folder, but I cannot find
> any info on this.
>
> So in short, new pc, new copy of windows, installed old drive as a 2nd
> drive, and I cannot access a few "non-shared" folders because I
> restricted
> file sharing while it was in my old pc. I cannot change the ownership
> of the
> folder because I do not own Pro. I do not have a "securities" tab in
> XP Home.
>
> Help..
> Jennifer



You can get to the Securities tab in XP Home. You must boot into Safe
Mode and the drive must be formatted NTFS. To get into Safe Mode,
repeatedly tap the F8 key as the computer is starting up. This will get
you to the menu where you can choose Safe Mode. Navigate with your Up
arrow key since the mouse will not work there.

If you are still unable to manage this, you can boot with Knoppix and
retrieve the files that way. Knoppix will not recognize XP permissions
and you'll be able to copy the files. Here is information on using
Knoppix:

Knoppix is a Linux distro on a live cd. You will need a computer with
two cd drives, one of which is a cd/dvd-rw OR a usb thumb drive with
enough capacity to hold your data. To get Knoppix, you need a computer
with a fast Internet connection and third-party burning software.
Download the Knoppix .iso from www.knoppix.net and create your bootable
cd. Then boot with it and it will be able to see the Windows files. If
you are using the usb thumb drive, right-click on its icon (on the
Desktop) to get its properties and uncheck the box that says "Read
Only". Then click on it to open it. Note that the default mouse action
in the window manager used by Knoppix (KDE) is a single click to open
instead of the traditional MS Windows' double-click. Otherwise, use the
K3b burning program to burn the files to cd/dvd-r's.

Malke
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www.elephantboycomputers.com
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:04 AM
Vanguard
 
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Default Re: file sharing and the missing securities tab

"jennifererrn" <jennifererrn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:51B2EB8A-00C5-4720-A6E2-887FF631224F@microsoft.com...
>I understand from reading others posts, that the securities tab does not
>show
> in XP Home, only in the Pro version. This is my trouble.


Home Edition users have to reboot into Safe Mode to configure security.
That is because this is an admin function and normally HE users don't change
those and too often haven't a clue how to manage them.

> I bought a new pc, and installed my old hard drive as a 2nd drive. I did
> not remove the sharing protection on a folder in my old drive, and now I
> cannot access that folder. I cannot change the ownership of the file,
> because I do not own Pro.


Yes, you can. As an HE user who doesn't have the management functions
upfront as they are in the Professional version, you have to reboot into
Safe Mode and login under an admin-level account.

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Old 01-05-2006, 05:04 AM
jennifererrn
 
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Default Re: file sharing and the missing securities tab

Thanks for the info. I will try this when I get home.

"Vanguard" wrote:

> "jennifererrn" <jennifererrn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:51B2EB8A-00C5-4720-A6E2-887FF631224F@microsoft.com...
> >I understand from reading others posts, that the securities tab does not
> >show
> > in XP Home, only in the Pro version. This is my trouble.

>
> Home Edition users have to reboot into Safe Mode to configure security.
> That is because this is an admin function and normally HE users don't change
> those and too often haven't a clue how to manage them.
>
> > I bought a new pc, and installed my old hard drive as a 2nd drive. I did
> > not remove the sharing protection on a folder in my old drive, and now I
> > cannot access that folder. I cannot change the ownership of the file,
> > because I do not own Pro.

>
> Yes, you can. As an HE user who doesn't have the management functions
> upfront as they are in the Professional version, you have to reboot into
> Safe Mode and login under an admin-level account.
>
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 05:04 AM
kurtis@latech.edu
 
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Default Re: file sharing and the missing securities tab

> >
> > > I bought a new pc, and installed my old hard drive as a 2nd drive. I did
> > > not remove the sharing protection on a folder in my old drive, and now I
> > > cannot access that folder. I cannot change the ownership of the file,
> > > because I do not own Pro.

> >

Maybe hook up the old drive as the master and boot to it? You will get
some pretty good errors booting up, particularly about all that new
hardware your old OS is seeing for the first time. However, it
should fire up at least once or twice and let you change sharing
permissions. Then just put the old drive back as a secondary and
reboot to your new drive.

Just an idea.

Also, we bought an IDE to USB converter for like 17 bucks US and it
turns old IDE drives into USB flash drives. I don't think your
permissions from that old drive will hold true if the OS on that old
drive is not actually booting up? Good Luck and let me know how it
turns out.

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Old 01-05-2006, 05:04 AM
jennifererrn
 
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Default Re: file sharing and the missing securities tab

All fixed with safe mode. Thanks Malke!

Jennifer

"Malke" wrote:

> jennifererrn wrote:
>
> > I understand from reading others posts, that the securities tab does
> > not show
> > in XP Home, only in the Pro version. This is my trouble.
> >
> > I bought a new pc, and installed my old hard drive as a 2nd drive. I
> > did not remove the sharing protection on a folder in my old drive, and
> > now I
> > cannot access that folder. I cannot change the ownership of the file,
> > because I do not own Pro.
> >
> > I do not own my old pc anylonger, so I cannot go back and change it by
> > putting the drive back in my old pc.
> >
> > I know there has to be a way to access that folder, but I cannot find
> > any info on this.
> >
> > So in short, new pc, new copy of windows, installed old drive as a 2nd
> > drive, and I cannot access a few "non-shared" folders because I
> > restricted
> > file sharing while it was in my old pc. I cannot change the ownership
> > of the
> > folder because I do not own Pro. I do not have a "securities" tab in
> > XP Home.
> >
> > Help..
> > Jennifer

>
>
> You can get to the Securities tab in XP Home. You must boot into Safe
> Mode and the drive must be formatted NTFS. To get into Safe Mode,
> repeatedly tap the F8 key as the computer is starting up. This will get
> you to the menu where you can choose Safe Mode. Navigate with your Up
> arrow key since the mouse will not work there.
>
> If you are still unable to manage this, you can boot with Knoppix and
> retrieve the files that way. Knoppix will not recognize XP permissions
> and you'll be able to copy the files. Here is information on using
> Knoppix:
>
> Knoppix is a Linux distro on a live cd. You will need a computer with
> two cd drives, one of which is a cd/dvd-rw OR a usb thumb drive with
> enough capacity to hold your data. To get Knoppix, you need a computer
> with a fast Internet connection and third-party burning software.
> Download the Knoppix .iso from www.knoppix.net and create your bootable
> cd. Then boot with it and it will be able to see the Windows files. If
> you are using the usb thumb drive, right-click on its icon (on the
> Desktop) to get its properties and uncheck the box that says "Read
> Only". Then click on it to open it. Note that the default mouse action
> in the window manager used by Knoppix (KDE) is a single click to open
> instead of the traditional MS Windows' double-click. Otherwise, use the
> K3b burning program to burn the files to cd/dvd-r's.
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 05:04 AM
Malke
 
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Default Re: file sharing and the missing securities tab

jennifererrn wrote:

> All fixed with safe mode. Thanks Malke!
>


Excellent! I'm glad you got it sorted. Thanks for taking the time to let
me know.

Malke
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www.elephantboycomputers.com
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