Run defrag as non-administrator?

Is there a way I can allow an account that is not a member of
Administrators to run disk defrag?

Win XP pro SP2

Thanks,
Russ

"Russ Ringer" <nobody@example.com> wrote in message
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> Is there a way I can allow an account that is not a member of
> Administrators to run disk defrag?
>
> Win XP pro SP2
>
> Thanks,
> Russ


What if you use RunAs?

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On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:44:08 -0600, "Vanguard"
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>"Russ Ringer" <nobody@example.com> wrote in message
>news:dm6eq1t2j2ojvav0pq93o0d2jh1vabkuqi@4ax.com.. .
>> Is there a way I can allow an account that is not a member of
>> Administrators to run disk defrag?
>>
>> Win XP pro SP2
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Russ
>
>
>What if you use RunAs?

Then I would have to reveal the password to the user.

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Why does a limited user need to run defrag? Thats a job for an
administrator if its needed at all...

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On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 16:14:10 -0600, "Sooner Al [MVP]"
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>Why does a limited user need to run defrag?

Because fragmented drives run slower and it's recommended?
I understand MS defrag is a limited version of disk keeper
http://www.diskeeper.com/defrag.asp?pass=588262708 who says it helps.

>Thats a job for an administrator if its needed at all...

Because the administrator is much too busy to bother with trivial
tasks like defrag. If tweakui is used to enable "optimize hard drive
when idle" is that the same as defraging? Will it still happen it the
user is not Administrator?

"Russ Ringer" <nobody@example.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 16:14:10 -0600, "Sooner Al [MVP]"
> <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote:
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>>Why does a limited user need to run defrag?
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> Because fragmented drives run slower and it's recommended?
> I understand MS defrag is a limited version of disk keeper
> http://www.diskeeper.com/defrag.asp?pass=588262708 who says it helps.
>
>>Thats a job for an administrator if its needed at all...
>
> Because the administrator is much too busy to bother with trivial
> tasks like defrag. If tweakui is used to enable "optimize hard drive
> when idle" is that the same as defraging? Will it still happen it the
> user is not Administrator?
>
>


Under NTFS, fragmentation is not nearly the issue it is under FAT. You can
go a long time without fragmenting your drive. Often users waste more time
defragmenting an NTFS volume then they lose due to any fragmentation. If
you want a defragmenter to run under administrator privileges but don't want
normal users to know your password (and they should also not run admin
functions) then get a defragmenter that runs as an NT service. It will then
run when it is appropriate, when the system is idle, and won't have the user
farking over the machine with a defrag that they may very well interrupt,
even by hitting the power switch.

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Click Start, Run and enter GPEDIT.MSC Go to Local Computer Policy, Computer Configuration, Windows Settings, Security Settings, Local Policies, User Rights Assignment. In the right pane, look for Perform volume maintenance tasks. Double click this and add the user or Group that you want to have this privilege. A reboot may be required.

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"Russ Ringer" <nobody@example.com> wrote in message news:dm6eq1t2j2ojvav0pq93o0d2jh1vabkuqi@4ax.com...
> Is there a way I can allow an account that is not a member of
> Administrators to run disk defrag?
>
> Win XP pro SP2
>
> Thanks,
> Russ

I added Power Users to "Perform volume maintenance tasks" and
re-booted but still got a warning, "You must have Administrator
privileges to defragment a volume"

So I tried adding Users, Everyone, and the specific user and rebooted.
Same results.

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:14:46 -0500, "Doug Knox MS-MVP"
<dknox@mvps.org> wrote:

>Click Start, Run and enter GPEDIT.MSC Go to Local Computer Policy, Computer Configuration, Windows Settings, Security Settings, Local Policies, User Rights Assignment. In the right pane, look for Perform volume maintenance tasks. Double click this and add the user or Group that you want to have this privilege. A reboot may be required.

I don't believe so but you can use the XP command line version defrag.exe in
startup/shutdown scripts or as a Scheduled Task which can be scripted via
schtasks. The links below explain more. --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283080/EN-US/
http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window...68d171033.mspx

"Russ Ringer" <nobody@example.com> wrote in message
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> Is there a way I can allow an account that is not a member of
> Administrators to run disk defrag?
>
> Win XP pro SP2
>
> Thanks,
> Russ

They may not be able to run the Command line version, but have you tried running the GUI version from the drives context menu?

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"Russ Ringer" <nobody@example.com> wrote in message news:b9hgq1tu3hnks78gao8lrkm3ibstoffhu0@4ax.com...
>I added Power Users to "Perform volume maintenance tasks" and
> re-booted but still got a warning, "You must have Administrator
> privileges to defragment a volume"
>
> So I tried adding Users, Everyone, and the specific user and rebooted.
> Same results.
>
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:14:46 -0500, "Doug Knox MS-MVP"
> <dknox@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>>Click Start, Run and enter GPEDIT.MSC Go to Local Computer Policy, Computer Configuration, Windows Settings, Security Settings, Local Policies, User Rights Assignment. In the right pane, look for Perform volume maintenance tasks. Double click this and add the user or Group that you want to have this privilege. A reboot may be required.
>