2 pc network - can't see host files from pc 2 on pc 1

I am trying to network two PC's for a friend.
I did my research before starting the process of networking two computers
and have followed it to a T.
I have contacted the tech guys at Best Buy, Microsoft, Symantec/Norton, and
a software vendors tech support and none of them seems to be of help. They
all trhow me off to the next guy. So A post in here will hopefully be
fruitful to my needs. Here is what I have for a layout

Both PC's running WindowsXP PRO updated to SP2 on both.
SBCglobal DSL modem
two ethernet cards on host machine - one for DSL and the other for network
to the Linksys 5 port router in port 2.
One ethernet card on 2nd PC connected to Linksys 5 port router in port 3
(port one uplink NOT USED).
Used network Wizard on both Pc's starting with HOST machine with shared
internet in group OFFICE.
Host machine has Norton Internet Security 2004 with all updates. It has
personal firewall.
The second machine has no security other than windows firewall which is
disabled/off.
I have run MSANTISPYWARE BETA (latest version updated), NOTHING FOUND
Adware PRO Nothing found,
AVG PRO= Nothing found
Norton Internet Security 2004 defaults set on all options and ran a ful scan
several times = Found nothing.


I can get the ip address of both with ipconfig /all
which are:
Host PC = 192.168.1.100
2nd PC = 192.168.1.101
set to "automatically assigned"
I can ping 192.168.1.100 & 192.168.1.101 from both machines and get 128 TTL
4 timesn on both w/ no lost packets
I have all folders (yes ALL ) on each PC shared as well as the printer
connected to the HOST PC.
When I open MY NETWORK PLACES on desktop and then ADD NETWORK PLACE then
NEXT, then CHOOSE ANOTHER NETWORK PLACE, then next, then Internet or network
place and select BROWSE I am shown Entire network, and select Microsoft
Windows Network, then OFFICE, then the two PC's on the network "HOST" and
"a2dPC"., then I select HOST and then the okay button and I recieve this
eror message.
\\2ndPC may not have permissions to read on the host PC, see the
administrator of the HOST PC Well duh, thats me and I have no clue how to
correct this.

You are over complicating things. Ditch the second network card in the one
computer and connect all computers directly to the switch that is integrated
in the router. Do not use ICS ever unless you are using dial up to access
the internet. All computer should be using the router IP as the default
gateway which probably is 192.168.1.1 and can use the router for DHCP. Be
sure to disable ICS on the one computer or it will also try to dish out IP
addresses. Use ipconfig /all to verify tcp/ip configuration on the computers
and verify that they can ping each other.

XP Pro by default uses simple file sharing which uses the guest account for
share access and shares/NTFS permissions would then need to include everyone
group. Otherwise disable simple file sharing and create user accounts on
each computer and configure share/NTFS permissions to be the access for
user/group that you want to have access. The user trying to access the share
would then need to logon with a user logon/password that exists on the
computer with the share in order to access it. It may be helpful to look in
the security log via Event Viewer of the computer with the share to see if
failed logon events are recorded that may provide a clue as to why access is
being denied if the user is failing to authenticate to the computer. You
need to use Local Security Policy [secpol.msc] to make sure that the
computer with the share has auditing of logon events enabled which it mat
have by default.

Host/software firewalls are often a cause of problems with accessing file
shares in a network. These firewalls should be disabled [assuming internet
router is protecting the network] until the problem is resolved and also
booting into Safe Mode with networking should be tried as a troubleshooting
procedure. Also try to access the computer with the share by UNC with both
computer name and IP address to see if that works or not. In the run box put
\\computername\share or \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the
actual IP address of the computer with the share. Running netstat -an on
the computer with the share should show ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP connected
or listening. The links below may be helpful. --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q304040 --- info
on simple file sharing
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418 ---
configure NTFS folder/file permissions assuming NTFS file system is used
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...e/adminsf.mspx
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../troubleshoot/

"carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:Zwzsf.369057$zb5.98087@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>I am trying to network two PC's for a friend.
> I did my research before starting the process of networking two computers
> and have followed it to a T.
> I have contacted the tech guys at Best Buy, Microsoft, Symantec/Norton,
> and a software vendors tech support and none of them seems to be of help.
> They all trhow me off to the next guy. So A post in here will hopefully
> be fruitful to my needs. Here is what I have for a layout
>
> Both PC's running WindowsXP PRO updated to SP2 on both.
> SBCglobal DSL modem
> two ethernet cards on host machine - one for DSL and the other for network
> to the Linksys 5 port router in port 2.
> One ethernet card on 2nd PC connected to Linksys 5 port router in port 3
> (port one uplink NOT USED).
> Used network Wizard on both Pc's starting with HOST machine with shared
> internet in group OFFICE.
> Host machine has Norton Internet Security 2004 with all updates. It has
> personal firewall.
> The second machine has no security other than windows firewall which is
> disabled/off.
> I have run MSANTISPYWARE BETA (latest version updated), NOTHING FOUND
> Adware PRO Nothing found,
> AVG PRO= Nothing found
> Norton Internet Security 2004 defaults set on all options and ran a ful
> scan several times = Found nothing.
>
>
> I can get the ip address of both with ipconfig /all
> which are:
> Host PC = 192.168.1.100
> 2nd PC = 192.168.1.101
> set to "automatically assigned"
> I can ping 192.168.1.100 & 192.168.1.101 from both machines and get 128
> TTL 4 timesn on both w/ no lost packets
> I have all folders (yes ALL ) on each PC shared as well as the printer
> connected to the HOST PC.
> When I open MY NETWORK PLACES on desktop and then ADD NETWORK PLACE then
> NEXT, then CHOOSE ANOTHER NETWORK PLACE, then next, then Internet or
> network place and select BROWSE I am shown Entire network, and select
> Microsoft Windows Network, then OFFICE, then the two PC's on the network
> "HOST" and "a2dPC"., then I select HOST and then the okay button and I
> recieve this eror message.
> \\2ndPC may not have permissions to read on the host PC, see the
> administrator of the HOST PC Well duh, thats me and I have no clue how to
> correct this.
>

If the second card is lost on HOST PC then DSL Internet does not connect.
Don't I have to use ICS on the HOST in order for the 2nd PC to have DSL
Internet.
Following what the directions for the router and what ALL techs have said
....DON'T connect to the #1 (uplink)
Are you saying the DSL internet should go there with the button not pressed
in and then in port 2 & 3 the two PCs?

I do not follow the last part of your reply containing this

""Also try to access the computer with the share by UNC with both computer
name and IP address to see if that works or not. In the run box put
\\computername\share or \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the
actual IP address of the computer with the share. Running netstat -an on
the computer with the share should show ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP connected
or listening.""

I am sure that all the different tech people that have given advice and my
mishaps have created many mistakes in WINXPPRO.
Is there a way to remove ALL the work I have done and start over with your
advice?
For example I see several PC's on the network that I have created with
diferent names.
I have restored the host PC to before I started this and they are still
there?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: 2 pc network - can't see host files from pc 2 on pc 1


> You are over complicating things. Ditch the second network card in the one
> computer and connect all computers directly to the switch that is
> integrated in the router. Do not use ICS ever unless you are using dial up
> to access the internet. All computer should be using the router IP as the
> default gateway which probably is 192.168.1.1 and can use the router for
> DHCP. Be sure to disable ICS on the one computer or it will also try to
> dish out IP addresses. Use ipconfig /all to verify tcp/ip configuration on
> the computers and verify that they can ping each other.
>
> XP Pro by default uses simple file sharing which uses the guest account
> for share access and shares/NTFS permissions would then need to include
> everyone group. Otherwise disable simple file sharing and create user
> accounts on each computer and configure share/NTFS permissions to be the
> access for user/group that you want to have access. The user trying to
> access the share would then need to logon with a user logon/password that
> exists on the computer with the share in order to access it. It may be
> helpful to look in the security log via Event Viewer of the computer with
> the share to see if failed logon events are recorded that may provide a
> clue as to why access is being denied if the user is failing to
> authenticate to the computer. You need to use Local Security Policy
> [secpol.msc] to make sure that the computer with the share has auditing of
> logon events enabled which it mat have by default.
>
> Host/software firewalls are often a cause of problems with accessing file
> shares in a network. These firewalls should be disabled [assuming internet
> router is protecting the network] until the problem is resolved and also
> booting into Safe Mode with networking should be tried as a
> troubleshooting procedure. Also try to access the computer with the share
> by UNC with both computer name and IP address to see if that works or not.
> In the run box put \\computername\share or \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share where
> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the actual IP address of the computer with the share.
> Running netstat -an on the computer with the share should show ports 139
> TCP and 445 TCP connected or listening. The links below may be
> ful. --- Steve
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q304040 --- info
> on simple file sharing
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418 ---
> configure NTFS folder/file permissions assuming NTFS file system is used
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...e/adminsf.mspx
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../troubleshoot/
>
> "carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:Zwzsf.369057$zb5.98087@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>I am trying to network two PC's for a friend.
>> I did my research before starting the process of networking two computers
>> and have followed it to a T.
>> I have contacted the tech guys at Best Buy, Microsoft, Symantec/Norton,
>> and a software vendors tech support and none of them seems to be of help.
>> They all trhow me off to the next guy. So A post in here will hopefully
>> be fruitful to my needs. Here is what I have for a layout
>>
>> Both PC's running WindowsXP PRO updated to SP2 on both.
>> SBCglobal DSL modem
>> two ethernet cards on host machine - one for DSL and the other for
>> network to the Linksys 5 port router in port 2.
>> One ethernet card on 2nd PC connected to Linksys 5 port router in port 3
>> (port one uplink NOT USED).
>> Used network Wizard on both Pc's starting with HOST machine with shared
>> internet in group OFFICE.
>> Host machine has Norton Internet Security 2004 with all updates. It has
>> personal firewall.
>> The second machine has no security other than windows firewall which is
>> disabled/off.
>> I have run MSANTISPYWARE BETA (latest version updated), NOTHING FOUND
>> Adware PRO Nothing found,
>> AVG PRO= Nothing found
>> Norton Internet Security 2004 defaults set on all options and ran a ful
>> scan several times = Found nothing.
>>
>>
>> I can get the ip address of both with ipconfig /all
>> which are:
>> Host PC = 192.168.1.100
>> 2nd PC = 192.168.1.101
>> set to "automatically assigned"
>> I can ping 192.168.1.100 & 192.168.1.101 from both machines and get 128
>> TTL 4 timesn on both w/ no lost packets
>> I have all folders (yes ALL ) on each PC shared as well as the printer
>> connected to the HOST PC.
>> When I open MY NETWORK PLACES on desktop and then ADD NETWORK PLACE then
>> NEXT, then CHOOSE ANOTHER NETWORK PLACE, then next, then Internet or
>> network place and select BROWSE I am shown Entire network, and select
>> Microsoft Windows Network, then OFFICE, then the two PC's on the network
>> "HOST" and "a2dPC"., then I select HOST and then the okay button and I
>> recieve this eror message.
>> \\2ndPC may not have permissions to read on the host PC, see the
>> administrator of the HOST PC Well duh, thats me and I have no clue how
>> to correct this.
>>
>
>

"Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net> wrote in message
news:772dnQgAZd2UYS_enZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> You are over complicating things. Ditch the second network card in the one
> computer and connect all computers directly to the switch that is
> integrated in the router. Do not use ICS ever unless you are using dial up
> to access the internet. All computer should be using the router IP as the
> default gateway which probably is 192.168.1.1 and can use the router for
> DHCP. Be sure to disable ICS on the one computer or it will also try to
> dish out IP addresses. Use ipconfig /all to verify tcp/ip configuration on
> the computers and verify that they can ping each other.
>
> XP Pro by default uses simple file sharing which uses the guest account
> for share access and shares/NTFS permissions would then need to include
> everyone group. Otherwise disable simple file sharing and create user
> accounts on each computer and configure share/NTFS permissions to be the
> access for user/group that you want to have access. The user trying to
> access the share would then need to logon with a user logon/password that
> exists on the computer with the share in order to access it. It may be
> helpful to look in the security log via Event Viewer of the computer with
> the share to see if failed logon events are recorded that may provide a
> clue as to why access is being denied if the user is failing to
> authenticate to the computer. You need to use Local Security Policy
> [secpol.msc] to make sure that the computer with the share has auditing of
> logon events enabled which it mat have by default.
>
> Host/software firewalls are often a cause of problems with accessing file
> shares in a network. These firewalls should be disabled [assuming internet
> router is protecting the network] until the problem is resolved and also
> booting into Safe Mode with networking should be tried as a
> troubleshooting procedure. Also try to access the computer with the share
> by UNC with both computer name and IP address to see if that works or not.
> In the run box put \\computername\share or \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share where
> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the actual IP address of the computer with the share.
> Running netstat -an on the computer with the share should show ports 139
> TCP and 445 TCP connected or listening. The links below may be
> lpful. --- Steve
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q304040 --- info
> on simple file sharing
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418 ---
> configure NTFS folder/file permissions assuming NTFS file system is used
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...e/adminsf.mspx
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../troubleshoot/
>
> "carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:Zwzsf.369057$zb5.98087@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>I am trying to network two PC's for a friend.
>> I did my research before starting the process of networking two computers
>> and have followed it to a T.
>> I have contacted the tech guys at Best Buy, Microsoft, Symantec/Norton,
>> and a software vendors tech support and none of them seems to be of help.
>> They all trhow me off to the next guy. So A post in here will hopefully
>> be fruitful to my needs. Here is what I have for a layout
>>
>> Both PC's running WindowsXP PRO updated to SP2 on both.
>> SBCglobal DSL modem
>> two ethernet cards on host machine - one for DSL and the other for
>> network to the Linksys 5 port router in port 2.
>> One ethernet card on 2nd PC connected to Linksys 5 port router in port 3
>> (port one uplink NOT USED).
>> Used network Wizard on both Pc's starting with HOST machine with shared
>> internet in group OFFICE.
>> Host machine has Norton Internet Security 2004 with all updates. It has
>> personal firewall.
>> The second machine has no security other than windows firewall which is
>> disabled/off.
>> I have run MSANTISPYWARE BETA (latest version updated), NOTHING FOUND
>> Adware PRO Nothing found,
>> AVG PRO= Nothing found
>> Norton Internet Security 2004 defaults set on all options and ran a ful
>> scan several times = Found nothing.
>>
>>
>> I can get the ip address of both with ipconfig /all
>> which are:
>> Host PC = 192.168.1.100
>> 2nd PC = 192.168.1.101
>> set to "automatically assigned"
>> I can ping 192.168.1.100 & 192.168.1.101 from both machines and get 128
>> TTL 4 timesn on both w/ no lost packets
>> I have all folders (yes ALL ) on each PC shared as well as the printer
>> connected to the HOST PC.
>> When I open MY NETWORK PLACES on desktop and then ADD NETWORK PLACE then
>> NEXT, then CHOOSE ANOTHER NETWORK PLACE, then next, then Internet or
>> network place and select BROWSE I am shown Entire network, and select
>> Microsoft Windows Network, then OFFICE, then the two PC's on the network
>> "HOST" and "a2dPC"., then I select HOST and then the okay button and I
>> recieve this eror message.
>> \\2ndPC may not have permissions to read on the host PC, see the
>> administrator of the HOST PC Well duh, thats me and I have no clue how
>> to correct this.
>>
>
>

No you do not have to use ICS and should not use it when you have a switch
built into your router. ICS had it's day when most everyone was on dialup.
If your router/switch has five ports then plug your computers into any port
not designated as an uplink port [which is NOT the WAN port]. I also assume
here that you have configured your router to connect to your ISP by entering
the pertinent info into the part for DSL/PPPOE which you need to do if you
have not. The DSL modem plugs into the "internet" or often called WAN port
on the router.

UNC is a way to connect to a server or share using the syntax
\\servername\sharename and can be done in the run box, at the command prompt
as part of the net use command, or in scripts. It is often helpful to use in
troubleshooting in situations where you can not access a computer by
clicking it in My Network Places which may be problem with the "browse" not
working correctly. The "browse" list is what you see when you look in My
Network Places other than shortcuts. --- Steve

"carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:wcGsf.370905$zb5.150434@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> If the second card is lost on HOST PC then DSL Internet does not connect.
> Don't I have to use ICS on the HOST in order for the 2nd PC to have DSL
> Internet.
> Following what the directions for the router and what ALL techs have said
> ...DON'T connect to the #1 (uplink)
> Are you saying the DSL internet should go there with the button not
> pressed
> in and then in port 2 & 3 the two PCs?
>
> I do not follow the last part of your reply containing this
>
> ""Also try to access the computer with the share by UNC with both computer
> name and IP address to see if that works or not. In the run box put
> \\computername\share or \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is
> the
> actual IP address of the computer with the share. Running netstat -an on
> the computer with the share should show ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP
> connected
> or listening.""
>
> I am sure that all the different tech people that have given advice and my
> mishaps have created many mistakes in WINXPPRO.
> Is there a way to remove ALL the work I have done and start over with your
> advice?
> For example I see several PC's on the network that I have created with
> diferent names.
> I have restored the host PC to before I started this and they are still
> there?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net>
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:56 PM
> Subject: Re: 2 pc network - can't see host files from pc 2 on pc 1
>
>
>> You are over complicating things. Ditch the second network card in the
>> one computer and connect all computers directly to the switch that is
>> integrated in the router. Do not use ICS ever unless you are using dial
>> up to access the internet. All computer should be using the router IP as
>> the default gateway which probably is 192.168.1.1 and can use the router
>> for DHCP. Be sure to disable ICS on the one computer or it will also try
>> to dish out IP addresses. Use ipconfig /all to verify tcp/ip
>> configuration on the computers and verify that they can ping each other.
>>
>> XP Pro by default uses simple file sharing which uses the guest account
>> for share access and shares/NTFS permissions would then need to include
>> everyone group. Otherwise disable simple file sharing and create user
>> accounts on each computer and configure share/NTFS permissions to be the
>> access for user/group that you want to have access. The user trying to
>> access the share would then need to logon with a user logon/password that
>> exists on the computer with the share in order to access it. It may be
>> helpful to look in the security log via Event Viewer of the computer with
>> the share to see if failed logon events are recorded that may provide a
>> clue as to why access is being denied if the user is failing to
>> authenticate to the computer. You need to use Local Security Policy
>> [secpol.msc] to make sure that the computer with the share has auditing
>> of logon events enabled which it mat have by default.
>>
>> Host/software firewalls are often a cause of problems with accessing file
>> shares in a network. These firewalls should be disabled [assuming
>> internet router is protecting the network] until the problem is resolved
>> and also booting into Safe Mode with networking should be tried as a
>> troubleshooting procedure. Also try to access the computer with the share
>> by UNC with both computer name and IP address to see if that works or
>> not. In the run box put \\computername\share or \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share
>> where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the actual IP address of the computer with the
>> share. Running netstat -an on the computer with the share should show
>> ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP connected or listening. The links below may be
>> ful. --- Steve
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q304040 ---
>> info on simple file sharing
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418 ---
>> configure NTFS folder/file permissions assuming NTFS file system is used
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...e/adminsf.mspx
>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../troubleshoot/
>>
>> "carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
>> message news:Zwzsf.369057$zb5.98087@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>I am trying to network two PC's for a friend.
>>> I did my research before starting the process of networking two
>>> computers and have followed it to a T.
>>> I have contacted the tech guys at Best Buy, Microsoft, Symantec/Norton,
>>> and a software vendors tech support and none of them seems to be of
>>> help. They all trhow me off to the next guy. So A post in here will
>>> hopefully be fruitful to my needs. Here is what I have for a layout
>>>
>>> Both PC's running WindowsXP PRO updated to SP2 on both.
>>> SBCglobal DSL modem
>>> two ethernet cards on host machine - one for DSL and the other for
>>> network to the Linksys 5 port router in port 2.
>>> One ethernet card on 2nd PC connected to Linksys 5 port router in port 3
>>> (port one uplink NOT USED).
>>> Used network Wizard on both Pc's starting with HOST machine with shared
>>> internet in group OFFICE.
>>> Host machine has Norton Internet Security 2004 with all updates. It has
>>> personal firewall.
>>> The second machine has no security other than windows firewall which is
>>> disabled/off.
>>> I have run MSANTISPYWARE BETA (latest version updated), NOTHING FOUND
>>> Adware PRO Nothing found,
>>> AVG PRO= Nothing found
>>> Norton Internet Security 2004 defaults set on all options and ran a ful
>>> scan several times = Found nothing.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can get the ip address of both with ipconfig /all
>>> which are:
>>> Host PC = 192.168.1.100
>>> 2nd PC = 192.168.1.101
>>> set to "automatically assigned"
>>> I can ping 192.168.1.100 & 192.168.1.101 from both machines and get 128
>>> TTL 4 timesn on both w/ no lost packets
>>> I have all folders (yes ALL ) on each PC shared as well as the printer
>>> connected to the HOST PC.
>>> When I open MY NETWORK PLACES on desktop and then ADD NETWORK PLACE then
>>> NEXT, then CHOOSE ANOTHER NETWORK PLACE, then next, then Internet or
>>> network place and select BROWSE I am shown Entire network, and select
>>> Microsoft Windows Network, then OFFICE, then the two PC's on the
>>> network "HOST" and "a2dPC"., then I select HOST and then the okay button
>>> and I recieve this eror message.
>>> \\2ndPC may not have permissions to read on the host PC, see the
>>> administrator of the HOST PC Well duh, thats me and I have no clue how
>>> to correct this.
>>>
>>
>>
>
> "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:772dnQgAZd2UYS_enZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> You are over complicating things. Ditch the second network card in the
>> one computer and connect all computers directly to the switch that is
>> integrated in the router. Do not use ICS ever unless you are using dial
>> up to access the internet. All computer should be using the router IP as
>> the default gateway which probably is 192.168.1.1 and can use the router
>> for DHCP. Be sure to disable ICS on the one computer or it will also try
>> to dish out IP addresses. Use ipconfig /all to verify tcp/ip
>> configuration on the computers and verify that they can ping each other.
>>
>> XP Pro by default uses simple file sharing which uses the guest account
>> for share access and shares/NTFS permissions would then need to include
>> everyone group. Otherwise disable simple file sharing and create user
>> accounts on each computer and configure share/NTFS permissions to be the
>> access for user/group that you want to have access. The user trying to
>> access the share would then need to logon with a user logon/password that
>> exists on the computer with the share in order to access it. It may be
>> helpful to look in the security log via Event Viewer of the computer with
>> the share to see if failed logon events are recorded that may provide a
>> clue as to why access is being denied if the user is failing to
>> authenticate to the computer. You need to use Local Security Policy
>> [secpol.msc] to make sure that the computer with the share has auditing
>> of logon events enabled which it mat have by default.
>>
>> Host/software firewalls are often a cause of problems with accessing file
>> shares in a network. These firewalls should be disabled [assuming
>> internet router is protecting the network] until the problem is resolved
>> and also booting into Safe Mode with networking should be tried as a
>> troubleshooting procedure. Also try to access the computer with the share
>> by UNC with both computer name and IP address to see if that works or
>> not. In the run box put \\computername\share or \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share
>> where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the actual IP address of the computer with the
>> share. Running netstat -an on the computer with the share should show
>> ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP connected or listening. The links below may be
>> lpful. --- Steve
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q304040 ---
>> info on simple file sharing
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418 ---
>> configure NTFS folder/file permissions assuming NTFS file system is used
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...e/adminsf.mspx
>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../troubleshoot/
>>
>> "carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
>> message news:Zwzsf.369057$zb5.98087@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>I am trying to network two PC's for a friend.
>>> I did my research before starting the process of networking two
>>> computers and have followed it to a T.
>>> I have contacted the tech guys at Best Buy, Microsoft, Symantec/Norton,
>>> and a software vendors tech support and none of them seems to be of
>>> help. They all trhow me off to the next guy. So A post in here will
>>> hopefully be fruitful to my needs. Here is what I have for a layout
>>>
>>> Both PC's running WindowsXP PRO updated to SP2 on both.
>>> SBCglobal DSL modem
>>> two ethernet cards on host machine - one for DSL and the other for
>>> network to the Linksys 5 port router in port 2.
>>> One ethernet card on 2nd PC connected to Linksys 5 port router in port 3
>>> (port one uplink NOT USED).
>>> Used network Wizard on both Pc's starting with HOST machine with shared
>>> internet in group OFFICE.
>>> Host machine has Norton Internet Security 2004 with all updates. It has
>>> personal firewall.
>>> The second machine has no security other than windows firewall which is
>>> disabled/off.
>>> I have run MSANTISPYWARE BETA (latest version updated), NOTHING FOUND
>>> Adware PRO Nothing found,
>>> AVG PRO= Nothing found
>>> Norton Internet Security 2004 defaults set on all options and ran a ful
>>> scan several times = Found nothing.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can get the ip address of both with ipconfig /all
>>> which are:
>>> Host PC = 192.168.1.100
>>> 2nd PC = 192.168.1.101
>>> set to "automatically assigned"
>>> I can ping 192.168.1.100 & 192.168.1.101 from both machines and get 128
>>> TTL 4 timesn on both w/ no lost packets
>>> I have all folders (yes ALL ) on each PC shared as well as the printer
>>> connected to the HOST PC.
>>> When I open MY NETWORK PLACES on desktop and then ADD NETWORK PLACE then
>>> NEXT, then CHOOSE ANOTHER NETWORK PLACE, then next, then Internet or
>>> network place and select BROWSE I am shown Entire network, and select
>>> Microsoft Windows Network, then OFFICE, then the two PC's on the
>>> network "HOST" and "a2dPC"., then I select HOST and then the okay button
>>> and I recieve this eror message.
>>> \\2ndPC may not have permissions to read on the host PC, see the
>>> administrator of the HOST PC Well duh, thats me and I have no clue how
>>> to correct this.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Thank you Steven,

I have used what you have said and have gotten so far as to be able to read
whats on the 2nd pc from the first (Host)pc.
But not the other way around. It continuously states the windows explorer
messge that reads
exactly "\\One is not accessible. You might not have permission to use
the network resource. Contact the admistrator of this server to find out if
you have access permissions. "
I have no clue how to set permissions.
This is the setup now.
Host PC = named "One" on OFFICE workgroup
2nd PC = Named "Two" on OFFICE workgroup
One can see and edit Two's files but Two can't on One's.
As far as I have researched tonight ALL settings for firewall are same (Ive
also tried turning off Windows Firewall)
NEtBios is OFF for Tcp on both machines.
Both machines have windowsxp pro with sp2 updated



"Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net> wrote in message
news:YY2dnXDeBqTCyS7eRVn-og@comcast.com...
> No you do not have to use ICS and should not use it when you have a switch
> built into your router. ICS had it's day when most everyone was on dialup.
> If your router/switch has five ports then plug your computers into any
> port not designated as an uplink port [which is NOT the WAN port]. I also
> assume here that you have configured your router to connect to your ISP by
> entering the pertinent info into the part for DSL/PPPOE which you need to
> do if you have not. The DSL modem plugs into the "internet" or often
> called WAN port on the router.
>
> UNC is a way to connect to a server or share using the syntax
> \\servername\sharename and can be done in the run box, at the command
> prompt as part of the net use command, or in scripts. It is often helpful
> to use in troubleshooting in situations where you can not access a
> computer by clicking it in My Network Places which may be problem with the
> "browse" not working correctly. The "browse" list is what you see when you
> look in My Network Places other than shortcuts. --- Steve
>
> "carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:wcGsf.370905$zb5.150434@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> If the second card is lost on HOST PC then DSL Internet does not connect.
>> Don't I have to use ICS on the HOST in order for the 2nd PC to have DSL
>> Internet.
>> Following what the directions for the router and what ALL techs have said
>> ...DON'T connect to the #1 (uplink)
>> Are you saying the DSL internet should go there with the button not
>> pressed
>> in and then in port 2 & 3 the two PCs?
>>
>> I do not follow the last part of your reply containing this
>>
>> ""Also try to access the computer with the share by UNC with both
>> computer
>> name and IP address to see if that works or not. In the run box put
>> \\computername\share or \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is
>> the
>> actual IP address of the computer with the share. Running netstat -an on
>> the computer with the share should show ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP
>> connected
>> or listening.""
>>
>> I am sure that all the different tech people that have given advice and
>> my
>> mishaps have created many mistakes in WINXPPRO.
>> Is there a way to remove ALL the work I have done and start over with
>> your
>> advice?
>> For example I see several PC's on the network that I have created with
>> diferent names.
>> I have restored the host PC to before I started this and they are still
>> there?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net>
>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: 2 pc network - can't see host files from pc 2 on pc 1
>>
>>
>>> You are over complicating things. Ditch the second network card in the
>>> one computer and connect all computers directly to the switch that is
>>> integrated in the router. Do not use ICS ever unless you are using dial
>>> up to access the internet. All computer should be using the router IP as
>>> the default gateway which probably is 192.168.1.1 and can use the router
>>> for DHCP. Be sure to disable ICS on the one computer or it will also try
>>> to dish out IP addresses. Use ipconfig /all to verify tcp/ip
>>> configuration on the computers and verify that they can ping each other.
>>>
>>> XP Pro by default uses simple file sharing which uses the guest account
>>> for share access and shares/NTFS permissions would then need to include
>>> everyone group. Otherwise disable simple file sharing and create user
>>> accounts on each computer and configure share/NTFS permissions to be the
>>> access for user/group that you want to have access. The user trying to
>>> access the share would then need to logon with a user logon/password
>>> that exists on the computer with the share in order to access it. It may
>>> be helpful to look in the security log via Event Viewer of the computer
>>> with the share to see if failed logon events are recorded that may
>>> provide a clue as to why access is being denied if the user is failing
>>> to authenticate to the computer. You need to use Local Security Policy
>>> [secpol.msc] to make sure that the computer with the share has auditing
>>> of logon events enabled which it mat have by default.
>>>
>>> Host/software firewalls are often a cause of problems with accessing
>>> file shares in a network. These firewalls should be disabled [assuming
>>> internet router is protecting the network] until the problem is resolved
>>> and also booting into Safe Mode with networking should be tried as a
>>> troubleshooting procedure. Also try to access the computer with the
>>> share by UNC with both computer name and IP address to see if that works
>>> or not. In the run box put \\computername\share or
>>> \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the actual IP address
>>> of the computer with the share. Running netstat -an on the computer with
>>> the share should show ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP connected or listening.
>>> The links below may be ful. --- Steve
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q304040 ---
>>> info on simple file sharing
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418 ---
>>> configure NTFS folder/file permissions assuming NTFS file system is used
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...e/adminsf.mspx
>>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../troubleshoot/
>>>
>>> "carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:Zwzsf.369057$zb5.98087@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>I am trying to network two PC's for a friend.
>>>> I did my research before starting the process of networking two
>>>> computers and have followed it to a T.
>>>> I have contacted the tech guys at Best Buy, Microsoft, Symantec/Norton,
>>>> and a software vendors tech support and none of them seems to be of
>>>> help. They all trhow me off to the next guy. So A post in here will
>>>> hopefully be fruitful to my needs. Here is what I have for a layout
>>>>
>>>> Both PC's running WindowsXP PRO updated to SP2 on both.
>>>> SBCglobal DSL modem
>>>> two ethernet cards on host machine - one for DSL and the other for
>>>> network to the Linksys 5 port router in port 2.
>>>> One ethernet card on 2nd PC connected to Linksys 5 port router in port
>>>> 3 (port one uplink NOT USED).
>>>> Used network Wizard on both Pc's starting with HOST machine with shared
>>>> internet in group OFFICE.
>>>> Host machine has Norton Internet Security 2004 with all updates. It has
>>>> personal firewall.
>>>> The second machine has no security other than windows firewall which is
>>>> disabled/off.
>>>> I have run MSANTISPYWARE BETA (latest version updated), NOTHING FOUND
>>>> Adware PRO Nothing found,
>>>> AVG PRO= Nothing found
>>>> Norton Internet Security 2004 defaults set on all options and ran a ful
>>>> scan several times = Found nothing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can get the ip address of both with ipconfig /all
>>>> which are:
>>>> Host PC = 192.168.1.100
>>>> 2nd PC = 192.168.1.101
>>>> set to "automatically assigned"
>>>> I can ping 192.168.1.100 & 192.168.1.101 from both machines and get 128
>>>> TTL 4 timesn on both w/ no lost packets
>>>> I have all folders (yes ALL ) on each PC shared as well as the printer
>>>> connected to the HOST PC.
>>>> When I open MY NETWORK PLACES on desktop and then ADD NETWORK PLACE
>>>> then NEXT, then CHOOSE ANOTHER NETWORK PLACE, then next, then Internet
>>>> or network place and select BROWSE I am shown Entire network, and
>>>> select Microsoft Windows Network, then OFFICE, then the two PC's on
>>>> the network "HOST" and "a2dPC"., then I select HOST and then the okay
>>>> button and I recieve this eror message.
>>>> \\2ndPC may not have permissions to read on the host PC, see the
>>>> administrator of the HOST PC Well duh, thats me and I have no clue how
>>>> to correct this.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:772dnQgAZd2UYS_enZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> You are over complicating things. Ditch the second network card in the
>>> one computer and connect all computers directly to the switch that is
>>> integrated in the router. Do not use ICS ever unless you are using dial
>>> up to access the internet. All computer should be using the router IP as
>>> the default gateway which probably is 192.168.1.1 and can use the router
>>> for DHCP. Be sure to disable ICS on the one computer or it will also try
>>> to dish out IP addresses. Use ipconfig /all to verify tcp/ip
>>> configuration on the computers and verify that they can ping each other.
>>>
>>> XP Pro by default uses simple file sharing which uses the guest account
>>> for share access and shares/NTFS permissions would then need to include
>>> everyone group. Otherwise disable simple file sharing and create user
>>> accounts on each computer and configure share/NTFS permissions to be the
>>> access for user/group that you want to have access. The user trying to
>>> access the share would then need to logon with a user logon/password
>>> that exists on the computer with the share in order to access it. It may
>>> be helpful to look in the security log via Event Viewer of the computer
>>> with the share to see if failed logon events are recorded that may
>>> provide a clue as to why access is being denied if the user is failing
>>> to authenticate to the computer. You need to use Local Security Policy
>>> [secpol.msc] to make sure that the computer with the share has auditing
>>> of logon events enabled which it mat have by default.
>>>
>>> Host/software firewalls are often a cause of problems with accessing
>>> file shares in a network. These firewalls should be disabled [assuming
>>> internet router is protecting the network] until the problem is resolved
>>> and also booting into Safe Mode with networking should be tried as a
>>> troubleshooting procedure. Also try to access the computer with the
>>> share by UNC with both computer name and IP address to see if that works
>>> or not. In the run box put \\computername\share or
>>> \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the actual IP address
>>> of the computer with the share. Running netstat -an on the computer with
>>> the share should show ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP connected or listening.
>>> The links below may be lpful. --- Steve
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q304040 ---
>>> info on simple file sharing
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418 ---
>>> configure NTFS folder/file permissions assuming NTFS file system is used
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...e/adminsf.mspx
>>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../troubleshoot/
>>>
>>> "carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:Zwzsf.369057$zb5.98087@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>I am trying to network two PC's for a friend.
>>>> I did my research before starting the process of networking two
>>>> computers and have followed it to a T.
>>>> I have contacted the tech guys at Best Buy, Microsoft, Symantec/Norton,
>>>> and a software vendors tech support and none of them seems to be of
>>>> help. They all trhow me off to the next guy. So A post in here will
>>>> hopefully be fruitful to my needs. Here is what I have for a layout
>>>>
>>>> Both PC's running WindowsXP PRO updated to SP2 on both.
>>>> SBCglobal DSL modem
>>>> two ethernet cards on host machine - one for DSL and the other for
>>>> network to the Linksys 5 port router in port 2.
>>>> One ethernet card on 2nd PC connected to Linksys 5 port router in port
>>>> 3 (port one uplink NOT USED).
>>>> Used network Wizard on both Pc's starting with HOST machine with shared
>>>> internet in group OFFICE.
>>>> Host machine has Norton Internet Security 2004 with all updates. It has
>>>> personal firewall.
>>>> The second machine has no security other than windows firewall which is
>>>> disabled/off.
>>>> I have run MSANTISPYWARE BETA (latest version updated), NOTHING FOUND
>>>> Adware PRO Nothing found,
>>>> AVG PRO= Nothing found
>>>> Norton Internet Security 2004 defaults set on all options and ran a ful
>>>> scan several times = Found nothing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can get the ip address of both with ipconfig /all
>>>> which are:
>>>> Host PC = 192.168.1.100
>>>> 2nd PC = 192.168.1.101
>>>> set to "automatically assigned"
>>>> I can ping 192.168.1.100 & 192.168.1.101 from both machines and get 128
>>>> TTL 4 timesn on both w/ no lost packets
>>>> I have all folders (yes ALL ) on each PC shared as well as the printer
>>>> connected to the HOST PC.
>>>> When I open MY NETWORK PLACES on desktop and then ADD NETWORK PLACE
>>>> then NEXT, then CHOOSE ANOTHER NETWORK PLACE, then next, then Internet
>>>> or network place and select BROWSE I am shown Entire network, and
>>>> select Microsoft Windows Network, then OFFICE, then the two PC's on
>>>> the network "HOST" and "a2dPC"., then I select HOST and then the okay
>>>> button and I recieve this eror message.
>>>> \\2ndPC may not have permissions to read on the host PC, see the
>>>> administrator of the HOST PC Well duh, thats me and I have no clue how
>>>> to correct this.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Assuming that you have firewall protection via your internet router try
booting computer one into Safe Mode with networking to see if that helps or
not. Also I don't recommend disabling netbios over tcp/ip in a small
workgroup because it will be needed for the network to work correctly.
Enable it on both computers and use the command ipconfig /all to make sure
it does not show as being disabled. Both computers should then show at
least three entries when the command nbtstat -n is run and one computer
should show as being the master browser. Running netstat -an on both
computers should show that ports 139 and 445 TCP are listening or
established. If you have not done so yet try accessing computer one via UNC
from computer 2 using the actual IP address of computer one. In the run box
of computer two enter \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx of course entering the actual IP
address of computer one. From computer two try using the telnet command to
see if you can access TCP ports 139 and 445 on computer one of which at
least one is needed for file and printer sharing. On computer one enter at
the command prompt telnet xxx.xxx.xxx 139 and if the port is open to you
will get a blank command line screen with a blinking cursor. Try it from
computer one and you will see how it works.


As far as permisisons on computer one while logged on as a local
administrator go to Windows Explorer go to tools/folder options/view and
make sure that the last option for simple file sharing is unchecked. Now
either create a share on your computer or use an existing share. On that
share right click and select properties go to sharing and select
permissions. For now give administrators full control and everyone read
permissions. While in the folder properties select security and make sure
administrators have full control and everyone has read and execute and list
folder permissions. If everyone group is not present select add and type
everyone in the box and hit OK and give everyone the permissions. Now make
sure that computer one has a user account with a logon/password that matches
what the user that logged onto computer two used. You can enter lusrmgr.msc
in the run box to bring up Local Users and Groups to create a user account
and/or change the password for a user account. The user on computer two MUST
logon with a password to access a share on computer one. If that fails try
to enable simple file sharing on computer one to see if at least that can
work. If you need to try that make sure the guest account is enabled on
computer one using Local Users and Groups again. See if any of that helps.
If it does not there may be incompaible security options on computer one
though that should not be the case if both computers have default security
options that would be configured in Local Security Policy or by importing a
security template. --- Steve


"CC" <hippiechick13-nospam@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:YX3tf.378192$zb5.21985@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Thank you Steven,
>
> I have used what you have said and have gotten so far as to be able to
> read whats on the 2nd pc from the first (Host)pc.
> But not the other way around. It continuously states the windows explorer
> messge that reads
> exactly "\\One is not accessible. You might not have permission to
> use the network resource. Contact the admistrator of this server to find
> out if you have access permissions. "
> I have no clue how to set permissions.
> This is the setup now.
> Host PC = named "One" on OFFICE workgroup
> 2nd PC = Named "Two" on OFFICE workgroup
> One can see and edit Two's files but Two can't on One's.
> As far as I have researched tonight ALL settings for firewall are same
> (Ive also tried turning off Windows Firewall)
> NEtBios is OFF for Tcp on both machines.
> Both machines have windowsxp pro with sp2 updated
>
>
>
> "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:YY2dnXDeBqTCyS7eRVn-og@comcast.com...
>> No you do not have to use ICS and should not use it when you have a
>> switch built into your router. ICS had it's day when most everyone was on
>> dialup. If your router/switch has five ports then plug your computers
>> into any port not designated as an uplink port [which is NOT the WAN
>> port]. I also assume here that you have configured your router to connect
>> to your ISP by entering the pertinent info into the part for DSL/PPPOE
>> which you need to do if you have not. The DSL modem plugs into the
>> "internet" or often called WAN port on the router.
>>
>> UNC is a way to connect to a server or share using the syntax
>> \\servername\sharename and can be done in the run box, at the command
>> prompt as part of the net use command, or in scripts. It is often helpful
>> to use in troubleshooting in situations where you can not access a
>> computer by clicking it in My Network Places which may be problem with
>> the "browse" not working correctly. The "browse" list is what you see
>> when you look in My Network Places other than shortcuts. --- Steve
>>
>> "carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
>> message
>> news:wcGsf.370905$zb5.150434@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> If the second card is lost on HOST PC then DSL Internet does not
>>> connect.
>>> Don't I have to use ICS on the HOST in order for the 2nd PC to have DSL
>>> Internet.
>>> Following what the directions for the router and what ALL techs have
>>> said
>>> ...DON'T connect to the #1 (uplink)
>>> Are you saying the DSL internet should go there with the button not
>>> pressed
>>> in and then in port 2 & 3 the two PCs?
>>>
>>> I do not follow the last part of your reply containing this
>>>
>>> ""Also try to access the computer with the share by UNC with both
>>> computer
>>> name and IP address to see if that works or not. In the run box put
>>> \\computername\share or \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is
>>> the
>>> actual IP address of the computer with the share. Running netstat -an
>>> on
>>> the computer with the share should show ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP
>>> connected
>>> or listening.""
>>>
>>> I am sure that all the different tech people that have given advice and
>>> my
>>> mishaps have created many mistakes in WINXPPRO.
>>> Is there a way to remove ALL the work I have done and start over with
>>> your
>>> advice?
>>> For example I see several PC's on the network that I have created with
>>> diferent names.
>>> I have restored the host PC to before I started this and they are still
>>> there?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net>
>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: 2 pc network - can't see host files from pc 2 on pc 1
>>>
>>>
>>>> You are over complicating things. Ditch the second network card in the
>>>> one computer and connect all computers directly to the switch that is
>>>> integrated in the router. Do not use ICS ever unless you are using dial
>>>> up to access the internet. All computer should be using the router IP
>>>> as the default gateway which probably is 192.168.1.1 and can use the
>>>> router for DHCP. Be sure to disable ICS on the one computer or it will
>>>> also try to dish out IP addresses. Use ipconfig /all to verify tcp/ip
>>>> configuration on the computers and verify that they can ping each
>>>> other.
>>>>
>>>> XP Pro by default uses simple file sharing which uses the guest account
>>>> for share access and shares/NTFS permissions would then need to include
>>>> everyone group. Otherwise disable simple file sharing and create user
>>>> accounts on each computer and configure share/NTFS permissions to be
>>>> the access for user/group that you want to have access. The user trying
>>>> to access the share would then need to logon with a user logon/password
>>>> that exists on the computer with the share in order to access it. It
>>>> may be helpful to look in the security log via Event Viewer of the
>>>> computer with the share to see if failed logon events are recorded that
>>>> may provide a clue as to why access is being denied if the user is
>>>> failing to authenticate to the computer. You need to use Local Security
>>>> Policy [secpol.msc] to make sure that the computer with the share has
>>>> auditing of logon events enabled which it mat have by default.
>>>>
>>>> Host/software firewalls are often a cause of problems with accessing
>>>> file shares in a network. These firewalls should be disabled [assuming
>>>> internet router is protecting the network] until the problem is
>>>> resolved and also booting into Safe Mode with networking should be
>>>> tried as a troubleshooting procedure. Also try to access the computer
>>>> with the share by UNC with both computer name and IP address to see if
>>>> that works or not. In the run box put \\computername\share or
>>>> \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the actual IP address
>>>> of the computer with the share. Running netstat -an on the computer
>>>> with the share should show ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP connected or
>>>> listening. The links below may be ful. --- Steve
>>>>
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q304040 ---
>>>> info on simple file sharing
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418 ---
>>>> configure NTFS folder/file permissions assuming NTFS file system is
>>>> used
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...e/adminsf.mspx
>>>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../troubleshoot/
>>>>
>>>> "carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
>>>> message
>>>> news:Zwzsf.369057$zb5.98087@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>I am trying to network two PC's for a friend.
>>>>> I did my research before starting the process of networking two
>>>>> computers and have followed it to a T.
>>>>> I have contacted the tech guys at Best Buy, Microsoft,
>>>>> Symantec/Norton, and a software vendors tech support and none of them
>>>>> seems to be of help. They all trhow me off to the next guy. So A post
>>>>> in here will hopefully be fruitful to my needs. Here is what I have
>>>>> for a layout
>>>>>
>>>>> Both PC's running WindowsXP PRO updated to SP2 on both.
>>>>> SBCglobal DSL modem
>>>>> two ethernet cards on host machine - one for DSL and the other for
>>>>> network to the Linksys 5 port router in port 2.
>>>>> One ethernet card on 2nd PC connected to Linksys 5 port router in port
>>>>> 3 (port one uplink NOT USED).
>>>>> Used network Wizard on both Pc's starting with HOST machine with
>>>>> shared internet in group OFFICE.
>>>>> Host machine has Norton Internet Security 2004 with all updates. It
>>>>> has personal firewall.
>>>>> The second machine has no security other than windows firewall which
>>>>> is disabled/off.
>>>>> I have run MSANTISPYWARE BETA (latest version updated), NOTHING FOUND
>>>>> Adware PRO Nothing found,
>>>>> AVG PRO= Nothing found
>>>>> Norton Internet Security 2004 defaults set on all options and ran a
>>>>> ful scan several times = Found nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can get the ip address of both with ipconfig /all
>>>>> which are:
>>>>> Host PC = 192.168.1.100
>>>>> 2nd PC = 192.168.1.101
>>>>> set to "automatically assigned"
>>>>> I can ping 192.168.1.100 & 192.168.1.101 from both machines and get
>>>>> 128 TTL 4 timesn on both w/ no lost packets
>>>>> I have all folders (yes ALL ) on each PC shared as well as the printer
>>>>> connected to the HOST PC.
>>>>> When I open MY NETWORK PLACES on desktop and then ADD NETWORK PLACE
>>>>> then NEXT, then CHOOSE ANOTHER NETWORK PLACE, then next, then Internet
>>>>> or network place and select BROWSE I am shown Entire network, and
>>>>> select Microsoft Windows Network, then OFFICE, then the two PC's on
>>>>> the network "HOST" and "a2dPC"., then I select HOST and then the okay
>>>>> button and I recieve this eror message.
>>>>> \\2ndPC may not have permissions to read on the host PC, see the
>>>>> administrator of the HOST PC Well duh, thats me and I have no clue
>>>>> how to correct this.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:772dnQgAZd2UYS_enZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> You are over complicating things. Ditch the second network card in the
>>>> one computer and connect all computers directly to the switch that is
>>>> integrated in the router. Do not use ICS ever unless you are using dial
>>>> up to access the internet. All computer should be using the router IP
>>>> as the default gateway which probably is 192.168.1.1 and can use the
>>>> router for DHCP. Be sure to disable ICS on the one computer or it will
>>>> also try to dish out IP addresses. Use ipconfig /all to verify tcp/ip
>>>> configuration on the computers and verify that they can ping each
>>>> other.
>>>>
>>>> XP Pro by default uses simple file sharing which uses the guest account
>>>> for share access and shares/NTFS permissions would then need to include
>>>> everyone group. Otherwise disable simple file sharing and create user
>>>> accounts on each computer and configure share/NTFS permissions to be
>>>> the access for user/group that you want to have access. The user trying
>>>> to access the share would then need to logon with a user logon/password
>>>> that exists on the computer with the share in order to access it. It
>>>> may be helpful to look in the security log via Event Viewer of the
>>>> computer with the share to see if failed logon events are recorded that
>>>> may provide a clue as to why access is being denied if the user is
>>>> failing to authenticate to the computer. You need to use Local Security
>>>> Policy [secpol.msc] to make sure that the computer with the share has
>>>> auditing of logon events enabled which it mat have by default.
>>>>
>>>> Host/software firewalls are often a cause of problems with accessing
>>>> file shares in a network. These firewalls should be disabled [assuming
>>>> internet router is protecting the network] until the problem is
>>>> resolved and also booting into Safe Mode with networking should be
>>>> tried as a troubleshooting procedure. Also try to access the computer
>>>> with the share by UNC with both computer name and IP address to see if
>>>> that works or not. In the run box put \\computername\share or
>>>> \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the actual IP address
>>>> of the computer with the share. Running netstat -an on the computer
>>>> with the share should show ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP connected or
>>>> listening. The links below may be lpful. --- Steve
>>>>
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q304040 ---
>>>> info on simple file sharing
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418 ---
>>>> configure NTFS folder/file permissions assuming NTFS file system is
>>>> used
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...e/adminsf.mspx
>>>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../troubleshoot/
>>>>
>>>> "carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
>>>> message
>>>> news:Zwzsf.369057$zb5.98087@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>I am trying to network two PC's for a friend.
>>>>> I did my research before starting the process of networking two
>>>>> computers and have followed it to a T.
>>>>> I have contacted the tech guys at Best Buy, Microsoft,
>>>>> Symantec/Norton, and a software vendors tech support and none of them
>>>>> seems to be of help. They all trhow me off to the next guy. So A post
>>>>> in here will hopefully be fruitful to my needs. Here is what I have
>>>>> for a layout
>>>>>
>>>>> Both PC's running WindowsXP PRO updated to SP2 on both.
>>>>> SBCglobal DSL modem
>>>>> two ethernet cards on host machine - one for DSL and the other for
>>>>> network to the Linksys 5 port router in port 2.
>>>>> One ethernet card on 2nd PC connected to Linksys 5 port router in port
>>>>> 3 (port one uplink NOT USED).
>>>>> Used network Wizard on both Pc's starting with HOST machine with
>>>>> shared internet in group OFFICE.
>>>>> Host machine has Norton Internet Security 2004 with all updates. It
>>>>> has personal firewall.
>>>>> The second machine has no security other than windows firewall which
>>>>> is disabled/off.
>>>>> I have run MSANTISPYWARE BETA (latest version updated), NOTHING FOUND
>>>>> Adware PRO Nothing found,
>>>>> AVG PRO= Nothing found
>>>>> Norton Internet Security 2004 defaults set on all options and ran a
>>>>> ful scan several times = Found nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can get the ip address of both with ipconfig /all
>>>>> which are:
>>>>> Host PC = 192.168.1.100
>>>>> 2nd PC = 192.168.1.101
>>>>> set to "automatically assigned"
>>>>> I can ping 192.168.1.100 & 192.168.1.101 from both machines and get
>>>>> 128 TTL 4 timesn on both w/ no lost packets
>>>>> I have all folders (yes ALL ) on each PC shared as well as the printer
>>>>> connected to the HOST PC.
>>>>> When I open MY NETWORK PLACES on desktop and then ADD NETWORK PLACE
>>>>> then NEXT, then CHOOSE ANOTHER NETWORK PLACE, then next, then Internet
>>>>> or network place and select BROWSE I am shown Entire network, and
>>>>> select Microsoft Windows Network, then OFFICE, then the two PC's on
>>>>> the network "HOST" and "a2dPC"., then I select HOST and then the okay
>>>>> button and I recieve this eror message.
>>>>> \\2ndPC may not have permissions to read on the host PC, see the
>>>>> administrator of the HOST PC Well duh, thats me and I have no clue
>>>>> how to correct this.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

I will try your latest in the morning. I have found this at microsoft .com
"FP_Tshoot.doc"
if you have time take a look at it and see if this could be a cure all...it
really looks promising as well as your info.
can be found with google
or the urlk
here
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

"Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net> wrote in message
news:u2ZiP9QDGHA.2036@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Assuming that you have firewall protection via your internet router try
> booting computer one into Safe Mode with networking to see if that helps
> or not. Also I don't recommend disabling netbios over tcp/ip in a small
> workgroup because it will be needed for the network to work correctly.
> Enable it on both computers and use the command ipconfig /all to make sure
> it does not show as being disabled. Both computers should then show at
> least three entries when the command nbtstat -n is run and one computer
> should show as being the master browser. Running netstat -an on both
> computers should show that ports 139 and 445 TCP are listening or
> established. If you have not done so yet try accessing computer one via
> UNC from computer 2 using the actual IP address of computer one. In the
> run box of computer two enter \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx of course entering the
> actual IP address of computer one. From computer two try using the telnet
> command to see if you can access TCP ports 139 and 445 on computer one of
> which at least one is needed for file and printer sharing. On computer one
> enter at the command prompt telnet xxx.xxx.xxx 139 and if the port is open
> to you will get a blank command line screen with a blinking cursor. Try it
> from computer one and you will see how it works.
>
>
> As far as permisisons on computer one while logged on as a local
> administrator go to Windows Explorer go to tools/folder options/view and
> make sure that the last option for simple file sharing is unchecked. Now
> either create a share on your computer or use an existing share. On that
> share right click and select properties go to sharing and select
> permissions. For now give administrators full control and everyone read
> permissions. While in the folder properties select security and make sure
> administrators have full control and everyone has read and execute and
> list folder permissions. If everyone group is not present select add and
> type everyone in the box and hit OK and give everyone the permissions. Now
> make sure that computer one has a user account with a logon/password that
> matches what the user that logged onto computer two used. You can enter
> lusrmgr.msc in the run box to bring up Local Users and Groups to create a
> user account and/or change the password for a user account. The user on
> computer two MUST logon with a password to access a share on computer one.
> If that fails try to enable simple file sharing on computer one to see if
> at least that can work. If you need to try that make sure the guest
> account is enabled on computer one using Local Users and Groups again. See
> if any of that helps. If it does not there may be incompaible security
> options on computer one though that should not be the case if both
> computers have default security options that would be configured in Local
> Security Policy or by importing a security template. --- Steve
>
>
> "CC" <hippiechick13-nospam@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:YX3tf.378192$zb5.21985@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Thank you Steven,
>>
>> I have used what you have said and have gotten so far as to be able to
>> read whats on the 2nd pc from the first (Host)pc.
>> But not the other way around. It continuously states the windows
>> explorer messge that reads
>> exactly "\\One is not accessible. You might not have permission to
>> use the network resource. Contact the admistrator of this server to find
>> out if you have access permissions. "
>> I have no clue how to set permissions.
>> This is the setup now.
>> Host PC = named "One" on OFFICE workgroup
>> 2nd PC = Named "Two" on OFFICE workgroup
>> One can see and edit Two's files but Two can't on One's.
>> As far as I have researched tonight ALL settings for firewall are same
>> (Ive also tried turning off Windows Firewall)
>> NEtBios is OFF for Tcp on both machines.
>> Both machines have windowsxp pro with sp2 updated
>>
>>
>>
>> "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:YY2dnXDeBqTCyS7eRVn-og@comcast.com...
>>> No you do not have to use ICS and should not use it when you have a
>>> switch built into your router. ICS had it's day when most everyone was
>>> on dialup. If your router/switch has five ports then plug your computers
>>> into any port not designated as an uplink port [which is NOT the WAN
>>> port]. I also assume here that you have configured your router to
>>> connect to your ISP by entering the pertinent info into the part for
>>> DSL/PPPOE which you need to do if you have not. The DSL modem plugs into
>>> the "internet" or often called WAN port on the router.
>>>
>>> UNC is a way to connect to a server or share using the syntax
>>> \\servername\sharename and can be done in the run box, at the command
>>> prompt as part of the net use command, or in scripts. It is often
>>> helpful to use in troubleshooting in situations where you can not access
>>> a computer by clicking it in My Network Places which may be problem with
>>> the "browse" not working correctly. The "browse" list is what you see
>>> when you look in My Network Places other than shortcuts. --- Steve
>>>
>>> "carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:wcGsf.370905$zb5.150434@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>> If the second card is lost on HOST PC then DSL Internet does not
>>>> connect.
>>>> Don't I have to use ICS on the HOST in order for the 2nd PC to have DSL
>>>> Internet.
>>>> Following what the directions for the router and what ALL techs have
>>>> said
>>>> ...DON'T connect to the #1 (uplink)
>>>> Are you saying the DSL internet should go there with the button not
>>>> pressed
>>>> in and then in port 2 & 3 the two PCs?
>>>>
>>>> I do not follow the last part of your reply containing this
>>>>
>>>> ""Also try to access the computer with the share by UNC with both
>>>> computer
>>>> name and IP address to see if that works or not. In the run box put
>>>> \\computername\share or \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>>>> is the
>>>> actual IP address of the computer with the share. Running netstat -an
>>>> on
>>>> the computer with the share should show ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP
>>>> connected
>>>> or listening.""
>>>>
>>>> I am sure that all the different tech people that have given advice and
>>>> my
>>>> mishaps have created many mistakes in WINXPPRO.
>>>> Is there a way to remove ALL the work I have done and start over with
>>>> your
>>>> advice?
>>>> For example I see several PC's on the network that I have created with
>>>> diferent names.
>>>> I have restored the host PC to before I started this and they are still
>>>> there?
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net>
>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: 2 pc network - can't see host files from pc 2 on pc 1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You are over complicating things. Ditch the second network card in the
>>>>> one computer and connect all computers directly to the switch that is
>>>>> integrated in the router. Do not use ICS ever unless you are using
>>>>> dial up to access the internet. All computer should be using the
>>>>> router IP as the default gateway which probably is 192.168.1.1 and can
>>>>> use the router for DHCP. Be sure to disable ICS on the one computer or
>>>>> it will also try to dish out IP addresses. Use ipconfig /all to verify
>>>>> tcp/ip configuration on the computers and verify that they can ping
>>>>> each other.
>>>>>
>>>>> XP Pro by default uses simple file sharing which uses the guest
>>>>> account for share access and shares/NTFS permissions would then need
>>>>> to include everyone group. Otherwise disable simple file sharing and
>>>>> create user accounts on each computer and configure share/NTFS
>>>>> permissions to be the access for user/group that you want to have
>>>>> access. The user trying to access the share would then need to logon
>>>>> with a user logon/password that exists on the computer with the share
>>>>> in order to access it. It may be helpful to look in the security log
>>>>> via Event Viewer of the computer with the share to see if failed logon
>>>>> events are recorded that may provide a clue as to why access is being
>>>>> denied if the user is failing to authenticate to the computer. You
>>>>> need to use Local Security Policy [secpol.msc] to make sure that the
>>>>> computer with the share has auditing of logon events enabled which it
>>>>> mat have by default.
>>>>>
>>>>> Host/software firewalls are often a cause of problems with accessing
>>>>> file shares in a network. These firewalls should be disabled [assuming
>>>>> internet router is protecting the network] until the problem is
>>>>> resolved and also booting into Safe Mode with networking should be
>>>>> tried as a troubleshooting procedure. Also try to access the computer
>>>>> with the share by UNC with both computer name and IP address to see if
>>>>> that works or not. In the run box put \\computername\share or
>>>>> \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the actual IP address
>>>>> of the computer with the share. Running netstat -an on the computer
>>>>> with the share should show ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP connected or
>>>>> listening. The links below may be ful. --- Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q304040 ---
>>>>> info on simple file sharing
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418 ---
>>>>> configure NTFS folder/file permissions assuming NTFS file system is
>>>>> used
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...e/adminsf.mspx
>>>>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../troubleshoot/
>>>>>
>>>>> "carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
>>>>> message
>>>>> news:Zwzsf.369057$zb5.98087