On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:43:33 -0500, Richard Urban wrote:

>Can you please email me. I would like to discus this further with you
>off-line.
>
>Thanks!

Richard,

actually, no thanks, because others would like to know more
about this as well.

I personally would wish that the technical discussions are
carried out openly here, unless there are overriding reasons.

Hans-Georg

p.s. While I'm in this thread, there is some information about
this at http://winhlp.com/WxMove.htm .

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"Hans-Georg Michna" <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:43:33 -0500, Richard Urban wrote:
>
> >Can you please email me. I would like to discus this further with you
> >off-line.
> >
> >Thanks!
>
> Richard,
>
> actually, no thanks, because others would like to know more
> about this as well.
>
> I personally would wish that the technical discussions are
> carried out openly here, unless there are overriding reasons.
>
> Hans-Georg
>
> p.s. While I'm in this thread, there is some information about
> this at http://winhlp.com/WxMove.htm .

The information is the same as in my previous reply. It is
largely based on what the OP found out by himself:
1. Boot the machine in such a way that the Windows installation
to be copied is ***not*** active. You could do this by
running the disk as a slave disk in some other PC, or by
booting the machine with a Bart PE boot CD.
2. Make the target partition active.
3. Copy the Windows system drive to the target partition. Make
sure to include hidden and system files.
4. Put the target disk back where it belongs.
5. Boot this PC with a WinXP installation CD.
6. Select Repair / Recovery Console.
7. Type these commands:
fixboot
fixmbr

The nice thing about this method is that it is completely safe
(because it does not alter the source partition in any way)
and that it will work even if Windows won't boot, thus
making it ideal when attempting to repair a failed installation.
The method on the web page you quote relies on a working
Windows installation.

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:39:36 +1100, Pegasus (MVP) wrote:

>The information is the same as in my previous reply. It is
>largely based on what the OP found out by himself:
>1. Boot the machine in such a way that the Windows installation
> to be copied is ***not*** active. You could do this by
> running the disk as a slave disk in some other PC, or by
> booting the machine with a Bart PE boot CD.
>2. Make the target partition active.
>3. Copy the Windows system drive to the target partition. Make
> sure to include hidden and system files.
>4. Put the target disk back where it belongs.
>5. Boot this PC with a WinXP installation CD.
>6. Select Repair / Recovery Console.
>7. Type these commands:
> fixboot
> fixmbr
>
>The nice thing about this method is that it is completely safe
>(because it does not alter the source partition in any way)
>and that it will work even if Windows won't boot, thus
>making it ideal when attempting to repair a failed installation.
>The method on the web page you quote relies on a working
>Windows installation.

Pegasus,

thanks! Actually I also prefer this method.

I haven't had to do step 7 if the new partition was created by
Windows. My impression was that Windows creates proper boot
sectors. What do you think about that?

Hans-Georg

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On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:39:36 +1100, Pegasus (MVP) wrote:

>The method on the web page you quote relies on a working
>Windows installation.

Pegasus,

in fact, I had the other method described as well, but only in a
later chapter.

I have now rearranged the chapters in
http://winhlp.com/WxMove.htm such that the preferred method
comes first.

The article had been showing age. It originated from the times
when it was difficult to have an extra operating system
installation. Today this has become much easier through
minimized bootable installations like BartPE or Knoppix.

Thanks for pointing this out! You shoved me over the hill to
rework the article.

Hans-Georg

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"Hans-Georg Michna" <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:39:36 +1100, Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
>
> >The information is the same as in my previous reply. It is
> >largely based on what the OP found out by himself:
> >1. Boot the machine in such a way that the Windows installation
> > to be copied is ***not*** active. You could do this by
> > running the disk as a slave disk in some other PC, or by
> > booting the machine with a Bart PE boot CD.
> >2. Make the target partition active.
> >3. Copy the Windows system drive to the target partition. Make
> > sure to include hidden and system files.
> >4. Put the target disk back where it belongs.
> >5. Boot this PC with a WinXP installation CD.
> >6. Select Repair / Recovery Console.
> >7. Type these commands:
> > fixboot
> > fixmbr
> >
> >The nice thing about this method is that it is completely safe
> >(because it does not alter the source partition in any way)
> >and that it will work even if Windows won't boot, thus
> >making it ideal when attempting to repair a failed installation.
> >The method on the web page you quote relies on a working
> >Windows installation.
>
> Pegasus,
>
> thanks! Actually I also prefer this method.
>
> I haven't had to do step 7 if the new partition was created by
> Windows. My impression was that Windows creates proper boot
> sectors. What do you think about that?
>
> Hans-Georg
>
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Your web page http://winhlp.com/WxMove.htm is well done
and very comprehensive. Well done!

I have noticed too that fixboot and fixmbr may not be
necessary for partitions formatted under WinXP. However,
my sample size is too small and I haven't researched the
topic properly to draw any valid conclusions. Running these
two commands won't damage anything, hence I usually
include them in my responses.

On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:15:50 +1100, Pegasus (MVP) wrote:

>Your web page http://winhlp.com/WxMove.htm is well done
>and very comprehensive. Well done!

Pegasus,

thanks!

>I have noticed too that fixboot and fixmbr may not be
>necessary for partitions formatted under WinXP. However,
>my sample size is too small and I haven't researched the
>topic properly to draw any valid conclusions. Running these
>two commands won't damage anything, hence I usually
>include them in my responses.

Yes, makes sense.

Merry Christmas, everyone!

Hans-Georg

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