In news:OwkiFGg6FHA.3120@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
Uncle John <unclejohn@uselesnospam.com> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> Hi Galen
>
> I despaired too soon!
>
> I had a last thought and instead of the tricky copy and paste method
> of transferring settings from one user account to another I used
> Microsoft's SyncToy.
>
> Using Windows Explorer > Documents and Settings I set the "My Name" (
> My Name = my default user name) as the left hand folder and
> Administrator as the right hand folder set the mode to contribute,
> named the folder pair as Administrator repair.
> I ran SyncToy in preview mode first and there were no errors and then
> committed.
>
> Afterwards I was able to log off "My Name" and on to Administrator
> via quick user switching without any problems. As Administrator I
> logged on to Windows Update which found nothing to add.
>
> I am really pleased to have found a fix, thanks again for your help
> because you pointed the way! Uncle John

Excellent and I'm glad that it worked. I'd not thought of using SyncToy to
do it... Hmm... Now THAT has me thinking... <g> Probably I shouldn't be
allowed to think too much but sheesh that's an interesting idea. If you can
save a sync job (and I'm not sure about the application really) then...
Hmm... Anyhow... Yeah, True Image is the epitome of butt-saving software.
For each computer I own I keep incremental compressed backups going back 6
months and one from a bare metal install with all the current updates at
that time. For each of my clients I do the same thing only my license with
Acronis would have been too expensive so I use Ghost and burn the copy to
DVD as well as offer to leave a copy here for them. Most people would think
that would mean less business (in fact I try to do no business these days)
but over the years I've found that it enables them to feel more confident
about returning to me for alternative troubles, custom build solutions, etc,
all of which I enjoy much more than doing a simple re-installation and
update.

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Galen

Yes you can save the SyncToy pair. The advantage of using SyncToy is that
you get a preview of what is going to do and though it will not copy files
in use by another user it just skips them and does not abort the whole copy
like it a normal copy/paste operation.
I use True Image much as you do. However I had a nasty reminder that it is
not fool proof when on my own system due to some conflict with Windows
Update it wiped out is own Acronis secure zone and weeks of backup.
Fortunately my old fashioned practice of archiving the whole system to tape
enabled me to restore most of it

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Uncle John
"Galen" <galennews@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In news:OwkiFGg6FHA.3120@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
> Uncle John <unclejohn@uselesnospam.com> had this to say:
>
> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>
>> Hi Galen
>>
>> I despaired too soon!
>>
>> I had a last thought and instead of the tricky copy and paste method
>> of transferring settings from one user account to another I used
>> Microsoft's SyncToy.
>>
>> Using Windows Explorer > Documents and Settings I set the "My Name" (
>> My Name = my default user name) as the left hand folder and
>> Administrator as the right hand folder set the mode to contribute,
>> named the folder pair as Administrator repair.
>> I ran SyncToy in preview mode first and there were no errors and then
>> committed.
>>
>> Afterwards I was able to log off "My Name" and on to Administrator
>> via quick user switching without any problems. As Administrator I
>> logged on to Windows Update which found nothing to add.
>>
>> I am really pleased to have found a fix, thanks again for your help
>> because you pointed the way! Uncle John
>
> Excellent and I'm glad that it worked. I'd not thought of using SyncToy to
> do it... Hmm... Now THAT has me thinking... <g> Probably I shouldn't be
> allowed to think too much but sheesh that's an interesting idea. If you
> can save a sync job (and I'm not sure about the application really)
> then... Hmm... Anyhow... Yeah, True Image is the epitome of butt-saving
> software. For each computer I own I keep incremental compressed backups
> going back 6 months and one from a bare metal install with all the current
> updates at that time. For each of my clients I do the same thing only my
> license with Acronis would have been too expensive so I use Ghost and burn
> the copy to DVD as well as offer to leave a copy here for them. Most
> people would think that would mean less business (in fact I try to do no
> business these days) but over the years I've found that it enables them to
> feel more confident about returning to me for alternative troubles, custom
> build solutions, etc, all of which I enjoy much more than doing a simple
> re-installation and update.
>
> --
> Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
> http://dts-l.org/
>
> Please note that if you're reading this in a browser and the domain is
> not owned by Microsoft then this work is being used without permission.
>
> Access MS Newsgroups :
> http://kgiii.info/windows/all/general/msnewsgroups.html
>

In news:etE%23Pxp6FHA.564@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
Uncle John <unclejohn@uselesnospam.com> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> Galen
>
> Yes you can save the SyncToy pair. The advantage of using SyncToy is
> that you get a preview of what is going to do and though it will not
> copy files in use by another user it just skips them and does not
> abort the whole copy like it a normal copy/paste operation.
> I use True Image much as you do. However I had a nasty reminder that
> it is not fool proof when on my own system due to some conflict with
> Windows Update it wiped out is own Acronis secure zone and weeks of
> backup. Fortunately my old fashioned practice of archiving the whole
> system to tape enabled me to restore most of it

Bah, seeing as we're on another subject I'll snip... I do a backup to DVD-R
(I buy 'em by the 1000 lot so they're dirt cheap and why I don't bother with
RW) every second Friday. I date it and give it the code for the machine. All
PCs in the house are set to write to a networked storage unit (actually just
a 2k box with lots of drive space) and do their backup automatically with
scheduling. I never verify burns or anything like that, I just move stuff
over and burn it on a separate PC with two DVD burners in it. It's a slow
process - it takes probably about 6 hours of my time to do them all but it's
been effective. Once (and this is a lie - really) every month I go through
the fireproof box and make one single copy of the second newest archive for
each PC and bring that to a third location - namely my parent's house. At
that point (also a lie) I throw out anything older than 6 months and once
every few months I clean out the old copies at my parent's house. (All
lies... That's what I really truly MEAN to do but I never get there...
Really there's lots and lots of them all in cases and kinda sorta
organized.) I do have an old DAT machine <g> but nothing that's fast enough
to bother with the massive backups that I tend to do. I have been looking
into the newest Sun server or there's a killer NAS device that has my eye...

Do not take this as a statement of the products values (either one of the
above) please but rather my own personal interests being manifest in the
midst of our digression.

http://www.anthologysolutions.com/products/index.htm

Later this month or early next I'll make my choices I guess. I'm more likely
to go with the Sun server and load a bank of drives to it. It's not nearly
as expensive as one might think. From there I'll keep the backups
automatically and start making copies on DVD once a month or so. When you
play with betas and the likes it's important. Too many hours go into setting
up to waste it. Virtual PCs are nice but they're not capable (in my opinion)
of providing an experience of true use of hardware and maximum potential.
That'd be like putting roaming profiles (sorta done actually) and thin
clients into my house so that I can use a PC while I'm in the bathroom.
Actually that is an interesting idea... Wireless keyboard with the touchpad?
Sitting in the tub? Hmm... Wow... I gotta get a life...

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/

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Galen

Sounds like you have an ideal system. I find burning to DVD's so slow, worse
than tape, that I use one time tapes and two external hard disks for True
image. It is true that tapes are more expensive than DVD's but I do not have
big volumes to look after like you. I am supposed to swap the EHD's into
fireproof storage but, like you I sometimes (!)forget.

It would nice to have online backup for the whole system but even then it is
not fool as has been demonstrated by Microsoft.
What I see coming down the road is large solid state drives. I have read
that 34 GB plug-in solid drives will soon be on the market, and next year 70
Gb. If that happens and the "drives" become available at a reasonable place
backup with True Image will be as easy as pie.

It is a fascinating subject. Some years ago I was managing IT for a
multinational company in Europe. We had online backup via our own private
broadband network to USA and another EU country. Tape copies were taken
weekly and flown by private jet to be stored in bomb proof storage under the
mountains in Dakota.This was very expensive, very safe but in my time never
used. But preventing fraud by in-house techies, we were at it 24/7!!

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Uncle John
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