How to make a system boot from a PCI IDE Controller?

Hello
Please, Help! How to make my Windows XP SP2 boot from a HDD "Samsung
SP2514N" (133mbit/s) connected to PCI IDE Controller "Promise Ultra100 TX2"?
I copied old bootable HDD to the new HDD using "Samsung Disk Manager". I can
boot from the new HDD when I connect it to "Chaintech 6btm" mainboard IDE
controller only. "Chaintech 6btm" mainboard IDE controller is UDMA2
(33mbit/s) only. I tried all possible boot sequences in the mainboard BIOS.
The Windows XP Recovery Console from the CD sees the Windows XP installation
on the new HDD as on disk D:. System does not boot if I set D: as the first
boot drive in the mainboard BIOS.

"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message
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> Hello
> Please, Help! How to make my Windows XP SP2 boot from a HDD "Samsung
> SP2514N" (133mbit/s) connected to PCI IDE Controller "Promise Ultra100
TX2"?
> I copied old bootable HDD to the new HDD using "Samsung Disk Manager". I
can
> boot from the new HDD when I connect it to "Chaintech 6btm" mainboard IDE
> controller only. "Chaintech 6btm" mainboard IDE controller is UDMA2
> (33mbit/s) only. I tried all possible boot sequences in the mainboard
BIOS.
> The Windows XP Recovery Console from the CD sees the Windows XP
installation
> on the new HDD as on disk D:. System does not boot if I set D: as the
first
> boot drive in the mainboard BIOS.
>
>

- How far does the boot process go with the Promise controller?
- What messages do you see on the screen when the boot process fails?

A Promise ide controller is considered a scsi by the bios for booting
purposes. Many, but not all, bios setups have an option to boot from scsi.
The drive letter boot selection in the bios setup is for onboard only.

--
Jonny
"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message
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> Hello
> Please, Help! How to make my Windows XP SP2 boot from a HDD "Samsung
> SP2514N" (133mbit/s) connected to PCI IDE Controller "Promise Ultra100
TX2"?
> I copied old bootable HDD to the new HDD using "Samsung Disk Manager". I
can
> boot from the new HDD when I connect it to "Chaintech 6btm" mainboard IDE
> controller only. "Chaintech 6btm" mainboard IDE controller is UDMA2
> (33mbit/s) only. I tried all possible boot sequences in the mainboard
BIOS.
> The Windows XP Recovery Console from the CD sees the Windows XP
installation
> on the new HDD as on disk D:. System does not boot if I set D: as the
first
> boot drive in the mainboard BIOS.
>
>

Thanks Jonny.
I set to boot from scsi in BIOS. The system still does not see a boot disk.
"Jonny" <billgates@scampublic.net> wrote in message
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>A Promise ide controller is considered a scsi by the bios for booting
> purposes. Many, but not all, bios setups have an option to boot from
> scsi.
> The drive letter boot selection in the bios setup is for onboard only.
>
> --
> Jonny
> "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message
> news:eI1Vm108FHA.3132@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Hello
>> Please, Help! How to make my Windows XP SP2 boot from a HDD "Samsung
>> SP2514N" (133mbit/s) connected to PCI IDE Controller "Promise Ultra100
> TX2"?
>> I copied old bootable HDD to the new HDD using "Samsung Disk Manager". I
> can
>> boot from the new HDD when I connect it to "Chaintech 6btm" mainboard IDE
>> controller only. "Chaintech 6btm" mainboard IDE controller is UDMA2
>> (33mbit/s) only. I tried all possible boot sequences in the mainboard
> BIOS.
>> The Windows XP Recovery Console from the CD sees the Windows XP
> installation
>> on the new HDD as on disk D:. System does not boot if I set D: as the
> first
>> boot drive in the mainboard BIOS.
>>
>>
>
>

Thanks Pegasus.
The boot process stops after successfully initializing HDDs connected to the
"Promise Ultra100 TX2", before starting to boot Windows.
The message says that I should insert a boot disk.
"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message
> news:eI1Vm108FHA.3132@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Hello
>> Please, Help! How to make my Windows XP SP2 boot from a HDD "Samsung
>> SP2514N" (133mbit/s) connected to PCI IDE Controller "Promise Ultra100
> TX2"?
>> I copied old bootable HDD to the new HDD using "Samsung Disk Manager". I
> can
>> boot from the new HDD when I connect it to "Chaintech 6btm" mainboard IDE
>> controller only. "Chaintech 6btm" mainboard IDE controller is UDMA2
>> (33mbit/s) only. I tried all possible boot sequences in the mainboard
> BIOS.
>> The Windows XP Recovery Console from the CD sees the Windows XP
> installation
>> on the new HDD as on disk D:. System does not boot if I set D: as the
> first
>> boot drive in the mainboard BIOS.
>>
>>
>
> - How far does the boot process go with the Promise controller?
> - What messages do you see on the screen when the boot process fails?
>
>

It depends upon what type of partition is on the drive. If it is a "primary"
partition, you have to set that partition as "active". There can be only one
active partition at a time and this is the partition the computer boots
from.



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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message
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> Hello
> Please, Help! How to make my Windows XP SP2 boot from a HDD "Samsung
> SP2514N" (133mbit/s) connected to PCI IDE Controller "Promise Ultra100
> TX2"? I copied old bootable HDD to the new HDD using "Samsung Disk
> Manager". I can boot from the new HDD when I connect it to "Chaintech
> 6btm" mainboard IDE controller only. "Chaintech 6btm" mainboard IDE
> controller is UDMA2 (33mbit/s) only. I tried all possible boot sequences
> in the mainboard BIOS. The Windows XP Recovery Console from the CD sees
> the Windows XP installation on the new HDD as on disk D:. System does not
> boot if I set D: as the first boot drive in the mainboard BIOS.
>

Did your load the Promise drivers into Windows?

On 27/11/2005 "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote:
>Thanks Jonny.
>I set to boot from scsi in BIOS. The system still does not see a boot disk.
>"Jonny" <billgates@scampublic.net> wrote in message
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>>A Promise ide controller is considered a scsi by the bios for booting
>> purposes. Many, but not all, bios setups have an option to boot from
>> scsi.
>> The drive letter boot selection in the bios setup is for onboard only.
>>
>> --
>> Jonny
>> "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message
>> news:eI1Vm108FHA.3132@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> Hello
>>> Please, Help! How to make my Windows XP SP2 boot from a HDD "Samsung
>>> SP2514N" (133mbit/s) connected to PCI IDE Controller "Promise Ultra100
>> TX2"?
>>> I copied old bootable HDD to the new HDD using "Samsung Disk Manager". I
>> can
>>> boot from the new HDD when I connect it to "Chaintech 6btm" mainboard IDE
>>> controller only. "Chaintech 6btm" mainboard IDE controller is UDMA2
>>> (33mbit/s) only. I tried all possible boot sequences in the mainboard
>> BIOS.
>>> The Windows XP Recovery Console from the CD sees the Windows XP
>> installation
>>> on the new HDD as on disk D:. System does not boot if I set D: as the
>> first
>>> boot drive in the mainboard BIOS.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

--
----
Y.

Windows drivers being installed, or not, have no bearing on the computer
seeing the drive when it tries to boot. It is a drive/bios/partition type
problem.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Yves Leclerc" <yvesleclercNOSPAM@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Did your load the Promise drivers into Windows?
>
> On 27/11/2005 "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote:
>>Thanks Jonny.
>>I set to boot from scsi in BIOS. The system still does not see a boot
>>disk.
>>"Jonny" <billgates@scampublic.net> wrote in message
>>news:eAaTNv18FHA.3752@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>A Promise ide controller is considered a scsi by the bios for booting
>>> purposes. Many, but not all, bios setups have an option to boot from
>>> scsi.
>>> The drive letter boot selection in the bios setup is for onboard only.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jonny
>>> "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message
>>> news:eI1Vm108FHA.3132@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hello
>>>> Please, Help! How to make my Windows XP SP2 boot from a HDD "Samsung
>>>> SP2514N" (133mbit/s) connected to PCI IDE Controller "Promise Ultra100
>>> TX2"?
>>>> I copied old bootable HDD to the new HDD using "Samsung Disk Manager".
>>>> I
>>> can
>>>> boot from the new HDD when I connect it to "Chaintech 6btm" mainboard
>>>> IDE
>>>> controller only. "Chaintech 6btm" mainboard IDE controller is UDMA2
>>>> (33mbit/s) only. I tried all possible boot sequences in the mainboard
>>> BIOS.
>>>> The Windows XP Recovery Console from the CD sees the Windows XP
>>> installation
>>>> on the new HDD as on disk D:. System does not boot if I set D: as the
>>> first
>>>> boot drive in the mainboard BIOS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> ----
> Y.
>

If all else fails then you may have to walk around the problem by
leaving an old hard disk connected to your motherboard IDE
controller, using it as a boot disk only. If so then it may be
necessary to make some adjustments to your drive letters: If
Windows was installed on drive C: then it must always be visible
on drive C:. If it becomes drive D: due to your boot disk then
it is possible to force it back to C:. Post again if you need further
instructions.


"Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message
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> Thanks Pegasus.
> The boot process stops after successfully initializing HDDs connected to
the
> "Promise Ultra100 TX2", before starting to boot Windows.
> The message says that I should insert a boot disk.
> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com> wrote in message
> news:Ojt8lI18FHA.808@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "Dmitry Kopnichev" <kopn@bk.ruDelete> wrote in message
> > news:eI1Vm108FHA.3132@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> Hello
> >> Please, Help! How to make my Windows XP SP2 boot from a HDD "Samsung
> >> SP2514N" (133mbit/s) connected to PCI IDE Controller "Promise Ultra100
> > TX2"?
> >> I copied old bootable HDD to the new HDD using "Samsung Disk Manager".
I
> > can
> >> boot from the new HDD when I connect it to "Chaintech 6btm" mainboard
IDE
> >> controller only. "Chaintech 6btm" mainboard IDE controller is UDMA2
> >> (33mbit/s) only. I tried all possible boot sequences in the mainboard
> > BIOS.
> >> The Windows XP Recovery Console from the CD sees the Windows XP
> > installation
> >> on the new HDD as on disk D:. System does not boot if I set D: as the
> > first
> >> boot drive in the mainboard BIOS.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > - How far does the boot process go with the Promise controller?
> > - What messages do you see on the screen when the boot process fails?
> >
> >
>
>

"Richard Urban" wrote:
> It depends upon what type of partition is on the drive. If it is a "primary"
> partition, you have to set that partition as "active". There can be only one
> active partition at a time and this is the partition the computer boots
> from.


There can be only one *primary* partition set to "active". A logical
drive within an extended partition may be set "active" at the same
time that a primary partition is set "active". And while a primary
partition is needed for the boot loader (ntldr), its boot menu (boot.ini),
and its environment detector (ntdetect.com), the OS itself may reside
on a logical drive within an extended partition. In short, the following
is more accurate:

"There can be only one 'active' primary partition on a hard drive,
and an 'active' primary partition is needed to contain the boot loader
and its associated files."

It is not necessary that the same "active" primary partition also
contain the OS.

*TimDaniels*