> Bear in mind these cams are designed for record and play, so you don't get
> the functionality or quality when editing as you would if you had chosen
> minidv.
>
> Graham

I am looking for a digital video camera right now...I do want to do a lot of
editing with the finished product.

Are you saying I should opt for one with miiDV rather than DVD media?

Thanks

Monte Comeau wrote:

> I am looking for a digital video camera right now...I do want to do a
> lot of editing with the finished product.
>
> Are you saying I should opt for one with miiDV rather than DVD media?

Monte
I recently bought a minidv camera (Panasonic GS-35).

I find that you can download in full dv-avi - apparently the format with
least (if any) loss of quality. This requires 4GB per 18 minutes. You can
then convert to other formats - the software supplied with my camera only
allows MPEG1, but it looks OK so far, and uses less space.

You can edit to your heart's content. In fact, I haven't found the time to
do all that I want to do - I sometimes film the ground or jump around too
much between takes !

Another option that has now come onto the market (at least here in
Australia) is recording direct to hard disk. The ones I have seen advertised
have 20 or 30 GB disks, so 20GB would hold 90 minutes at the same quality,
50% more than a single minidv tape at standard quality. (30 GB would be 105
minutes). But the ads I have seen say up to 10.5 hours so I don't know what
quality that is.

If you haven't already invested $1000 (as I did) it may be worth a look at
these types of cameras.
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au

Thanks for the info...
I went and got the Sony DCR-DVD403 DVD
A bit pricy but it is what I wanted....I have Adobe Premiere Elements and it
will edit the video format from this camera so I think I will be happy.


"Trevor L." <tandcl@homemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:OQwwz$E2FHA.3756@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Monte Comeau wrote:
>
>> I am looking for a digital video camera right now...I do want to do a
>> lot of editing with the finished product.
>>
>> Are you saying I should opt for one with miiDV rather than DVD media?
>
> Monte
> I recently bought a minidv camera (Panasonic GS-35).
>
> I find that you can download in full dv-avi - apparently the format with
> least (if any) loss of quality. This requires 4GB per 18 minutes. You can
> then convert to other formats - the software supplied with my camera only
> allows MPEG1, but it looks OK so far, and uses less space.
>
> You can edit to your heart's content. In fact, I haven't found the time to
> do all that I want to do - I sometimes film the ground or jump around too
> much between takes !
>
> Another option that has now come onto the market (at least here in
> Australia) is recording direct to hard disk. The ones I have seen
> advertised have 20 or 30 GB disks, so 20GB would hold 90 minutes at the
> same quality, 50% more than a single minidv tape at standard quality. (30
> GB would be 105 minutes). But the ads I have seen say up to 10.5 hours so
> I don't know what quality that is.
>
> If you haven't already invested $1000 (as I did) it may be worth a look at
> these types of cameras.
> --
> Cheers,
> Trevor L.
> Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au
>
>
>

Monte,
Just out of interest.

Is the DVD written by the camera read-only or read-write?

If read-only, then I guess you have to create a new DVD after you edit it.
Although it would also mean you would have a permanent copy.

--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au

Monte Comeau wrote:
> Thanks for the info...
> I went and got the Sony DCR-DVD403 DVD
> A bit pricy but it is what I wanted....I have Adobe Premiere Elements
> and it will edit the video format from this camera so I think I will
> be happy.
>
> "Trevor L." <tandcl@homemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:OQwwz$E2FHA.3756@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Monte Comeau wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking for a digital video camera right now...I do want to do
>>> a lot of editing with the finished product.
>>>
>>> Are you saying I should opt for one with miiDV rather than DVD
>>> media?
>>
>> Monte
>> I recently bought a minidv camera (Panasonic GS-35).
>>
>> I find that you can download in full dv-avi - apparently the format
>> with least (if any) loss of quality. This requires 4GB per 18
>> minutes. You can then convert to other formats - the software
>> supplied with my camera only allows MPEG1, but it looks OK so far,
>> and uses less space. You can edit to your heart's content. In fact, I
>> haven't found the
>> time to do all that I want to do - I sometimes film the ground or
>> jump around too much between takes !
>>
>> Another option that has now come onto the market (at least here in
>> Australia) is recording direct to hard disk. The ones I have seen
>> advertised have 20 or 30 GB disks, so 20GB would hold 90 minutes at
>> the same quality, 50% more than a single minidv tape at standard
>> quality. (30 GB would be 105 minutes). But the ads I have seen say
>> up to 10.5 hours so I don't know what quality that is.
>>
>> If you haven't already invested $1000 (as I did) it may be worth a
>> look at these types of cameras.
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Trevor L.
>> Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au

You can use either the -R, +R or +RW discs with this camera. There is an
option to finalize the disc so you cannot write to it again or you can leave
it open. I plan on using the +RW so I can use them repeatedly in the
camera and transfer to regular DVD or hard drive.

The new version of Adobe Premiere Elements will edit any
format....apparently.
Do you see any problem with editing files created on DVD?

QUOTE BELOW FROM ADOBE

Grab from virtually any media device
Use the new Media Downloader to import video, audio, and still images from
virtually any device, including DV and DVD camcorders, unprotected DVDs,
digital still cameras, MPEG-4 video recorders, and cell phones.


> Monte,
> Just out of interest.
>
> Is the DVD written by the camera read-only or read-write?
>
> If read-only, then I guess you have to create a new DVD after you edit it.
> Although it would also mean you would have a permanent copy.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Trevor L.
> Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au
>
> Monte Comeau wrote:
>> Thanks for the info...
>> I went and got the Sony DCR-DVD403 DVD
>> A bit pricy but it is what I wanted....I have Adobe Premiere Elements
>> and it will edit the video format from this camera so I think I will
>> be happy.
>>
>> "Trevor L." <tandcl@homemail.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:OQwwz$E2FHA.3756@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Monte Comeau wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am looking for a digital video camera right now...I do want to do
>>>> a lot of editing with the finished product.
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying I should opt for one with miiDV rather than DVD
>>>> media?
>>>
>>> Monte
>>> I recently bought a minidv camera (Panasonic GS-35).
>>>
>>> I find that you can download in full dv-avi - apparently the format
>>> with least (if any) loss of quality. This requires 4GB per 18
>>> minutes. You can then convert to other formats - the software
>>> supplied with my camera only allows MPEG1, but it looks OK so far,
>>> and uses less space. You can edit to your heart's content. In fact, I
>>> haven't found the
>>> time to do all that I want to do - I sometimes film the ground or
>>> jump around too much between takes !
>>>
>>> Another option that has now come onto the market (at least here in
>>> Australia) is recording direct to hard disk. The ones I have seen
>>> advertised have 20 or 30 GB disks, so 20GB would hold 90 minutes at
>>> the same quality, 50% more than a single minidv tape at standard
>>> quality. (30 GB would be 105 minutes). But the ads I have seen say
>>> up to 10.5 hours so I don't know what quality that is.
>>>
>>> If you haven't already invested $1000 (as I did) it may be worth a
>>> look at these types of cameras.
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> Trevor L.
>>> Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au
>
>

Monte Comeau wrote:
> You can use either the -R, +R or +RW discs with this camera. There
> is an option to finalize the disc so you cannot write to it again or
> you can leave it open. I plan on using the +RW so I can use them
> repeatedly in the camera and transfer to regular DVD or hard drive.
>
> The new version of Adobe Premiere Elements will edit any
> format....apparently.
> Do you see any problem with editing files created on DVD?
>
> QUOTE BELOW FROM ADOBE
>
> Grab from virtually any media device
> Use the new Media Downloader to import video, audio, and still images
> from virtually any device, including DV and DVD camcorders,
> unprotected DVDs, digital still cameras, MPEG-4 video recorders, and
> cell phones.
>
>> Monte,
>> Just out of interest.
>>
>> Is the DVD written by the camera read-only or read-write?
>>
>> If read-only, then I guess you have to create a new DVD after you
>> edit it. Although it would also mean you would have a permanent copy.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Trevor L.
>> Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au
>>
>> Monte Comeau wrote:
>>> Thanks for the info...
>>> I went and got the Sony DCR-DVD403 DVD
>>> A bit pricy but it is what I wanted....I have Adobe Premiere
>>> Elements and it will edit the video format from this camera so I
>>> think I will be happy.
>>>
>>> "Trevor L." <tandcl@homemail.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:OQwwz$E2FHA.3756@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> Monte Comeau wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am looking for a digital video camera right now...I do want to
>>>>> do a lot of editing with the finished product.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you saying I should opt for one with miiDV rather than DVD
>>>>> media?
>>>>
>>>> Monte
>>>> I recently bought a minidv camera (Panasonic GS-35).
>>>>
>>>> I find that you can download in full dv-avi - apparently the format
>>>> with least (if any) loss of quality. This requires 4GB per 18
>>>> minutes. You can then convert to other formats - the software
>>>> supplied with my camera only allows MPEG1, but it looks OK so far,
>>>> and uses less space. You can edit to your heart's content. In
>>>> fact, I haven't found the
>>>> time to do all that I want to do - I sometimes film the ground or
>>>> jump around too much between takes !
>>>>
>>>> Another option that has now come onto the market (at least here in
>>>> Australia) is recording direct to hard disk. The ones I have seen
>>>> advertised have 20 or 30 GB disks, so 20GB would hold 90 minutes at
>>>> the same quality, 50% more than a single minidv tape at standard
>>>> quality. (30 GB would be 105 minutes). But the ads I have seen say
>>>> up to 10.5 hours so I don't know what quality that is.
>>>>
>>>> If you haven't already invested $1000 (as I did) it may be worth a
>>>> look at these types of cameras.
>>>> --
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Trevor L.
>>>> Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au

Monte,
I see Graham has replied.

He will have much more knowledge than I

I see no problem in editing from DVD, although Graham seems to like dv-avi

Good Luck and Have Fun
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au

Monte,
Have you had success getting Adobe Elements to read right from the DVD that
you created in the Sony camera ?
I was thniking of trying this approach and just bought the software.
Figured I asked before I unwrap it.

MP.

"Monte Comeau" wrote:

> You can use either the -R, +R or +RW discs with this camera. There is an
> option to finalize the disc so you cannot write to it again or you can leave
> it open. I plan on using the +RW so I can use them repeatedly in the
> camera and transfer to regular DVD or hard drive.
>
> The new version of Adobe Premiere Elements will edit any
> format....apparently.
> Do you see any problem with editing files created on DVD?
>
> QUOTE BELOW FROM ADOBE
>
> Grab from virtually any media device
> Use the new Media Downloader to import video, audio, and still images from
> virtually any device, including DV and DVD camcorders, unprotected DVDs,
> digital still cameras, MPEG-4 video recorders, and cell phones.
>
>
> > Monte,
> > Just out of interest.
> >
> > Is the DVD written by the camera read-only or read-write?
> >
> > If read-only, then I guess you have to create a new DVD after you edit it.
> > Although it would also mean you would have a permanent copy.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Trevor L.
> > Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au
> >
> > Monte Comeau wrote:
> >> Thanks for the info...
> >> I went and got the Sony DCR-DVD403 DVD
> >> A bit pricy but it is what I wanted....I have Adobe Premiere Elements
> >> and it will edit the video format from this camera so I think I will
> >> be happy.
> >>
> >> "Trevor L." <tandcl@homemail.com.au> wrote in message
> >> news:OQwwz$E2FHA.3756@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >>> Monte Comeau wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I am looking for a digital video camera right now...I do want to do
> >>>> a lot of editing with the finished product.
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you saying I should opt for one with miiDV rather than DVD
> >>>> media?
> >>>
> >>> Monte
> >>> I recently bought a minidv camera (Panasonic GS-35).
> >>>
> >>> I find that you can download in full dv-avi - apparently the format
> >>> with least (if any) loss of quality. This requires 4GB per 18
> >>> minutes. You can then convert to other formats - the software
> >>> supplied with my camera only allows MPEG1, but it looks OK so far,
> >>> and uses less space. You can edit to your heart's content. In fact, I
> >>> haven't found the
> >>> time to do all that I want to do - I sometimes film the ground or
> >>> jump around too much between takes !
> >>>
> >>> Another option that has now come onto the market (at least here in
> >>> Australia) is recording direct to hard disk. The ones I have seen
> >>> advertised have 20 or 30 GB disks, so 20GB would hold 90 minutes at
> >>> the same quality, 50% more than a single minidv tape at standard
> >>> quality. (30 GB would be 105 minutes). But the ads I have seen say
> >>> up to 10.5 hours so I don't know what quality that is.
> >>>
> >>> If you haven't already invested $1000 (as I did) it may be worth a
> >>> look at these types of cameras.
> >>> --
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Trevor L.
> >>> Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au
> >
> >
>
>
>

I have not had the chance to try it yet. Just got camera yesterday. I will
be trying this tonight and get back to you.
The promo from Adobe actually has the Sony DVD camcorder in the ad so I am
certain it will work!

I will let you know later...

"MP66" <MP66@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ADD6512F-5B21-4459-950C-00DFB6D69D09@microsoft.com...
> Monte,
> Have you had success getting Adobe Elements to read right from the DVD
> that
> you created in the Sony camera ?
> I was thniking of trying this approach and just bought the software.
> Figured I asked before I unwrap it.
>
> MP.
>
> "Monte Comeau" wrote:
>
>> You can use either the -R, +R or +RW discs with this camera. There is
>> an
>> option to finalize the disc so you cannot write to it again or you can
>> leave
>> it open. I plan on using the +RW so I can use them repeatedly in the
>> camera and transfer to regular DVD or hard drive.
>>
>> The new version of Adobe Premiere Elements will edit any
>> format....apparently.
>> Do you see any problem with editing files created on DVD?
>>
>> QUOTE BELOW FROM ADOBE
>>
>> Grab from virtually any media device
>> Use the new Media Downloader to import video, audio, and still images
>> from
>> virtually any device, including DV and DVD camcorders, unprotected DVDs,
>> digital still cameras, MPEG-4 video recorders, and cell phones.
>>
>>
>> > Monte,
>> > Just out of interest.
>> >
>> > Is the DVD written by the camera read-only or read-write?
>> >
>> > If read-only, then I guess you have to create a new DVD after you edit
>> > it.
>> > Although it would also mean you would have a permanent copy.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cheers,
>> > Trevor L.
>> > Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au
>> >
>> > Monte Comeau wrote:
>> >> Thanks for the info...
>> >> I went and got the Sony DCR-DVD403 DVD
>> >> A bit pricy but it is what I wanted....I have Adobe Premiere Elements
>> >> and it will edit the video format from this camera so I think I will
>> >> be happy.
>> >>
>> >> "Trevor L." <tandcl@homemail.com.au> wrote in message
>> >> news:OQwwz$E2FHA.3756@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >>> Monte Comeau wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I am looking for a digital video camera right now...I do want to do
>> >>>> a lot of editing with the finished product.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Are you saying I should opt for one with miiDV rather than DVD
>> >>>> media?
>> >>>
>> >>> Monte
>> >>> I recently bought a minidv camera (Panasonic GS-35).
>> >>>
>> >>> I find that you can download in full dv-avi - apparently the format
>> >>> with least (if any) loss of quality. This requires 4GB per 18
>> >>> minutes. You can then convert to other formats - the software
>> >>> supplied with my camera only allows MPEG1, but it looks OK so far,
>> >>> and uses less space. You can edit to your heart's content. In fact, I
>> >>> haven't found the
>> >>> time to do all that I want to do - I sometimes film the ground or
>> >>> jump around too much between takes !
>> >>>
>> >>> Another option that has now come onto the market (at least here in
>> >>> Australia) is recording direct to hard disk. The ones I have seen
>> >>> advertised have 20 or 30 GB disks, so 20GB would hold 90 minutes at
>> >>> the same quality, 50% more than a single minidv tape at standard
>> >>> quality. (30 GB would be 105 minutes). But the ads I have seen say
>> >>> up to 10.5 hours so I don't know what quality that is.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you haven't already invested $1000 (as I did) it may be worth a
>> >>> look at these types of cameras.
>> >>> --
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Trevor L.
>> >>> Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>