Hello,
I did a search but found no responses that address my issue. So;

I use WMP-10 with a CinePlayer DVD decoder and WXP_SP2 on a P4 to view DVD
movies on my computer. I curently have a ATI Radeon 9000 Pro video card,
1000MB of main memory, and all the latest updates, drivers, etc.

The problem is that the WMP-10 Enchancements, namely, Video Settings, do not
work for me whn using this combination while playing a DVD movie. The Video
Settings sliders are present, but set to default. Any attempt to move them
results in the slider(s) jumping right back to default 0 (zero). So, I have
no control over Brightness, Contrast, Hue, or Saturation settings.

I have attempted to remedy this the only way I know, by changing settings in
WMP Options | Perfomance | Video Acceleration | Advanced. I have tried evey
conceivable combination of settings, including Un-checking all selections.
However, nothing has any positve impact on the Enhancements Video Settings.
In addition, I can not see any negative impacts on the DVD image when viewed;
even when all Option settings are left Un-checked.

If I had to guess, I would say that either the CinePLayer WMP codec or the
WMP itself is simply limited with regard to Video Settings for DVD play. If
so, I made a bad choice by selecting this combo and will switch to a full
scale DVD player if necessary. HOWEVER, I would like to find a fix to the
present problem, as I enjoy using as little software as possible to achieve a
result.

The two most popular DVD player applications are WinDVD and PowerDVD...
www.intervideo.com and www.gocyberlink.com

--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies, Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows


"ptmx2" <ptmx2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:09DBC32B-68C5-419E-86AF-D0248EAE30AD@microsoft.com...
> Hello,
> I did a search but found no responses that address my issue. So;
>
> I use WMP-10 with a CinePlayer DVD decoder and WXP_SP2 on a P4 to view DVD
> movies on my computer. I curently have a ATI Radeon 9000 Pro video card,
> 1000MB of main memory, and all the latest updates, drivers, etc.
>
> The problem is that the WMP-10 Enchancements, namely, Video Settings, do
> not
> work for me whn using this combination while playing a DVD movie. The
> Video
> Settings sliders are present, but set to default. Any attempt to move them
> results in the slider(s) jumping right back to default 0 (zero). So, I
> have
> no control over Brightness, Contrast, Hue, or Saturation settings.
>
> I have attempted to remedy this the only way I know, by changing settings
> in
> WMP Options | Perfomance | Video Acceleration | Advanced. I have tried
> evey
> conceivable combination of settings, including Un-checking all selections.
> However, nothing has any positve impact on the Enhancements Video
> Settings.
> In addition, I can not see any negative impacts on the DVD image when
> viewed;
> even when all Option settings are left Un-checked.
>
> If I had to guess, I would say that either the CinePLayer WMP codec or the
> WMP itself is simply limited with regard to Video Settings for DVD play.
> If
> so, I made a bad choice by selecting this combo and will switch to a full
> scale DVD player if necessary. HOWEVER, I would like to find a fix to the
> present problem, as I enjoy using as little software as possible to
> achieve a
> result.
>

ptmx2 wrote:
> Hello,
> I did a search but found no responses that address my issue. So;
>
> I use WMP-10 with a CinePlayer DVD decoder and WXP_SP2 on a P4 to view DVD
> movies on my computer. I curently have a ATI Radeon 9000 Pro video card,
> 1000MB of main memory, and all the latest updates, drivers, etc.
>
> The problem is that the WMP-10 Enchancements, namely, Video Settings, do not
> work for me whn using this combination while playing a DVD movie. The Video
> Settings sliders are present, but set to default. Any attempt to move them
> results in the slider(s) jumping right back to default 0 (zero). So, I have
> no control over Brightness, Contrast, Hue, or Saturation settings.
>
> I have attempted to remedy this the only way I know, by changing settings in
> WMP Options | Perfomance | Video Acceleration | Advanced. I have tried evey
> conceivable combination of settings, including Un-checking all selections.
> However, nothing has any positve impact on the Enhancements Video Settings.
> In addition, I can not see any negative impacts on the DVD image when viewed;
> even when all Option settings are left Un-checked.
>
> If I had to guess, I would say that either the CinePLayer WMP codec or the
> WMP itself is simply limited with regard to Video Settings for DVD play. If
> so, I made a bad choice by selecting this combo and will switch to a full
> scale DVD player if necessary. HOWEVER, I would like to find a fix to the
> present problem, as I enjoy using as little software as possible to achieve a
> result.

Although I did at some time in the past, I don't use WMP to play DVDs
at present so I am unable to appreciate your problem. I just wanted to
make the following "gentle" comment - this is not a lecture: I have
played DVDs using at least five different players, using at least five
different decoders, and I never had the urge to fiddle with the video
settings. Of course, your taste could be different from mine, but my
point is that if you have not already done so, prehaps you need to
calibrate your monitor so that the settings match industry standards.
Just a thought.

I will take that bit of advice, but I want to ask another question or two.
I have a NOKIA monitor test that helps the user set contrast,brighness,
moire, etc. It is all a bit subjective based on the viewer and the physical
setting of the display.

However, you mentioned matching industry standards. Please be more specific
as I am interesting in knowing more about your suggestion. FYI, I have a 19"
iiYama CRT monitor, a bit old, model MA901U, but I am am very pleased with it
in every way. It has more than the standard fair of adjustments, but no all.
I would appreciate further advice or information on your suggesting regarding
calibration of the monitor.

thank you.
pm

"bxf" wrote:


> Although I did at some time in the past, I don't use WMP to play DVDs
> at present so I am unable to appreciate your problem. I just wanted to
> make the following "gentle" comment - this is not a lecture: I have
> played DVDs using at least five different players, using at least five
> different decoders, and I never had the urge to fiddle with the video
> settings. Of course, your taste could be different from mine, but my
> point is that if you have not already done so, prehaps you need to
> calibrate your monitor so that the settings match industry standards.
> Just a thought.
>
>

I cannot comment on the accuracy obtained with the Nokia monitor test.
My own experience with calibration tools delivered with my monitor is
not positive.

Color Management is a complex subject, but it is overkill in the
context of watching DVDs. That is, it is important for the purposes of
matching the printed image to the one displayed on the monitor, but
this precision is not required just for watching DVDs. Hence, you don't
need to get into the subject of Color Management. If you wish to do so,
there is an endless amount of info on the web.

Since we don't need great precision, we don't need any of the hardware
tools that one would use to perform calibration for critical purposes.
Whereas calibration tools that rely on visual feedback from the user
are not considered reliable by professional standards, it is safe to
say that they are suitable for the intended purpose. From my limited
experience with a few such tools, I would recommend "Wiziwyg", from
Praxisoft. They have (or at least used to have) a free version that you
can download and use to calibrate your monitor by eye. This will be
more than adequate for non-critical photo work. The technique is
similar to the one used by Adobe Gamma (Photoshop), but I find that it
is easier to make fine adjustments with "Wiziwyg", and it is easier to
use.

If you are doing any photo printing then you may want to look more into
Color Management and device profiling. This can be somewhat complex,
but, depending on the degree of precision one requires, can be very
useful.

B.


ptmx2 wrote:
> I will take that bit of advice, but I want to ask another question or two.
> I have a NOKIA monitor test that helps the user set contrast,brighness,
> moire, etc. It is all a bit subjective based on the viewer and the physical
> setting of the display.
>
> However, you mentioned matching industry standards. Please be more specific
> as I am interesting in knowing more about your suggestion. FYI, I have a 19"
> iiYama CRT monitor, a bit old, model MA901U, but I am am very pleased with it
> in every way. It has more than the standard fair of adjustments, but no all.
> I would appreciate further advice or information on your suggesting regarding
> calibration of the monitor.
>
> thank you.
> pm
>
> "bxf" wrote:
>
>
> > Although I did at some time in the past, I don't use WMP to play DVDs
> > at present so I am unable to appreciate your problem. I just wanted to
> > make the following "gentle" comment - this is not a lecture: I have
> > played DVDs using at least five different players, using at least five
> > different decoders, and I never had the urge to fiddle with the video
> > settings. Of course, your taste could be different from mine, but my
> > point is that if you have not already done so, prehaps you need to
> > calibrate your monitor so that the settings match industry standards.
> > Just a thought.
> >
> >

Thank You...
I will look into "Wiziwyg" from Praxisoft or its other products...
pm.

"bxf" wrote:

> I cannot comment on the accuracy obtained with the Nokia monitor test.
> My own experience with calibration tools delivered with my monitor is
> not positive.
>
> Color Management is a complex subject, but it is overkill in the
> context of watching DVDs. That is, it is important for the purposes of
> matching the printed image to the one displayed on the monitor, but
> this precision is not required just for watching DVDs. Hence, you don't
> need to get into the subject of Color Management. If you wish to do so,
> there is an endless amount of info on the web.
>
> Since we don't need great precision, we don't need any of the hardware
> tools that one would use to perform calibration for critical purposes.
> Whereas calibration tools that rely on visual feedback from the user
> are not considered reliable by professional standards, it is safe to
> say that they are suitable for the intended purpose. From my limited
> experience with a few such tools, I would recommend "Wiziwyg", from
> Praxisoft. They have (or at least used to have) a free version that you
> can download and use to calibrate your monitor by eye. This will be
> more than adequate for non-critical photo work. The technique is
> similar to the one used by Adobe Gamma (Photoshop), but I find that it
> is easier to make fine adjustments with "Wiziwyg", and it is easier to
> use.
>
> If you are doing any photo printing then you may want to look more into
> Color Management and device profiling. This can be somewhat complex,
> but, depending on the degree of precision one requires, can be very
> useful.
>
> B.
>
>
> ptmx2 wrote:
> > I will take that bit of advice, but I want to ask another question or two.
> > I have a NOKIA monitor test that helps the user set contrast,brighness,
> > moire, etc. It is all a bit subjective based on the viewer and the physical
> > setting of the display.
> >
> > However, you mentioned matching industry standards. Please be more specific
> > as I am interesting in knowing more about your suggestion. FYI, I have a 19"
> > iiYama CRT monitor, a bit old, model MA901U, but I am am very pleased with it
> > in every way. It has more than the standard fair of adjustments, but no all.
> > I would appreciate further advice or information on your suggesting regarding
> > calibration of the monitor.
> >
> > thank you.
> > pm
> >
> > "bxf" wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Although I did at some time in the past, I don't use WMP to play DVDs
> > > at present so I am unable to appreciate your problem. I just wanted to
> > > make the following "gentle" comment - this is not a lecture: I have
> > > played DVDs using at least five different players, using at least five
> > > different decoders, and I never had the urge to fiddle with the video
> > > settings. Of course, your taste could be different from mine, but my
> > > point is that if you have not already done so, prehaps you need to
> > > calibrate your monitor so that the settings match industry standards.
> > > Just a thought.
> > >
> > >
>
>